This from todays newpaper. He claims to not have intentionally taken anything banned.
However apart from the headline of the article (which by the way is headed: GATLIN IS A JUNKIE), there was something about his past races and drug allefgations which caught my eye.
At the 2001 US Junior Championships at the University of Tennessee, Gatlin tested positive for Amphetamine Aderall. A 2 year ban was imposed on him. However the ban was taken off after further testings when it was found that the substances were a part of his ADD/ADHD medication.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
I think there will be too many records that will never be broken now, if they find a way to detect any and all drugs. I think it just gives to much of an edge to anyone who finds and uses a designer steroid.
Yeah. Maybe. I don’t really care if records stagnate. If that’s the case, it will be clear as to the reason and become apparent how much of an edge steroids gave to earlier athletes. As for the latter, someone finding and using a new undetectable designer steroid will probably still have that edge whether or notthey tighten up their policies.[/quote]
Records sell tickets. The people who market sports want to sell tickets…
[quote]MODOK wrote:
This topic makes my head hurt. So what next once they get “steroids” banned. They are years behind testing for exogenous HGH, how will they catch those guys? Then theres the new boys, IGF-1, MGF, on and on. Once they find tests for those, we should have some brand new anabolic steroids which will be undetectable, so no worries. It is ALL POINTLESS. Athletes cheat to win sometimes, they always will. I’m personally looking foreward to that 9 second flat 100 meters from the juicers in 50 years or so. [/quote]
It sounds out there, but genetic engineering is not that far off. In the short(er) run it will be the doping of individual genes through viral insertion. On paper at least the technological means are already there at teh bleading edge of science. A country with highly advanced genetic engineering research and a strong state-sponsored sporting program would be in an ideal position to be the first on the block using this technique. Beijing '08 baby.
In the long run though how do you cope when genetic modification becomes common place in society? The potential benefits to society are huge, so do you confine sports to those whose parents were too poor to afford treatment or do you just conclude after all those years that records were always contextual anyway and we wasted all our energy bashing our entertainment rather than enjoying it?
does anyone else think it’s pretty damn weird how this country is drug crazy and yet we want somekind of polly anna purity when it comes to sports ? wtf is this all about ?
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Justin Gatlin, tied for the 100 meter world record, has also reported failing a drug test. His A sample and B sample showed an ‘unusually high level of testosterone’.
I really don’t understand. Possibility A: these athletes are really all incredibly stupid, dumber than shitstains in fact, to use when they will clearly get caught at it.
Scenario B: there is something seriously wrong with these tests. I lean towards Scenario B.
I don’t understand how all these elite level athletes in different sports could be so fucking stupid to use when they know how strict testing is becoming and the scrutiny they’re under.[/quote]
Gatlin’s case a little different because of his coach (and his involved in BALCO and the number of his athletes who’ve either been outright banned or very strongly suspected of using performance enhancing drugs).
[quote]etaco wrote:
MODOK wrote:
This topic makes my head hurt. So what next once they get “steroids” banned. They are years behind testing for exogenous HGH, how will they catch those guys? Then theres the new boys, IGF-1, MGF, on and on. Once they find tests for those, we should have some brand new anabolic steroids which will be undetectable, so no worries. It is ALL POINTLESS. Athletes cheat to win sometimes, they always will. I’m personally looking foreward to that 9 second flat 100 meters from the juicers in 50 years or so.
It sounds out there, but genetic engineering is not that far off. In the short(er) run it will be the doping of individual genes through viral insertion. On paper at least the technological means are already there at teh bleading edge of science. A country with highly advanced genetic engineering research and a strong state-sponsored sporting program would be in an ideal position to be the first on the block using this technique. Beijing '08 baby.
In the long run though how do you cope when genetic modification becomes common place in society? The potential benefits to society are huge, so do you confine sports to those whose parents were too poor to afford treatment or do you just conclude after all those years that records were always contextual anyway and we wasted all our energy bashing our entertainment rather than enjoying it?[/quote]
I heard that some coaches in the recent winter olympics were looking into this (the banned Austrain cross country sking coach).
I even heard that it was suggested that some athletes had already been “gene doped”…
[quote]MODOK wrote:
swivel wrote:
does anyone else think it’s pretty damn weird how this country is drug crazy and yet we want somekind of polly anna purity when it comes to sports ? wtf is this all about ?
If you get a chance, you should catch the History Channel’s special “Illegal Drugs, and How They Got That Way”, if you want the straight skinny on why drugs get banned. Conclusion; straight racism and ignorance. It will definitely open your eyes WIDE.
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i just set the tivo. thanks for the tip. i didn’t even know i had the history channel.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
swivel wrote:
does anyone else think it’s pretty damn weird how this country is drug crazy and yet we want somekind of polly anna purity when it comes to sports ? wtf is this all about ?
If you get a chance, you should catch the History Channel’s special “Illegal Drugs, and How They Got That Way”, if you want the straight skinny on why drugs get banned. Conclusion; straight racism and ignorance. It will definitely open your eyes WIDE.
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very true marijuana was illegalized cause of them “crazy mexicans” and people killing each other and tripping face on marijuana. the thing i’ve seen killed on marijuana was a box of cookies and a bag of chips.