Justifying Creatine To Mommy

Tell her you are a T-man for life. No excuses, no bullshit.

Sell your mum for your next tub of creatine.

Or

tell her to eat a Dick.

maybe you could split an apt. with this guy:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=859891

When mothers are taking their kids supplements from them something is wrong.They must not be getting laid by their hubby enough.

Pitbull, I know your frustration. My mother was an RN during the height of the aerobics and high carb craze - she just doesn’t understand how to actually be strong and healthy and won’t listen to anything I say, even though I’m finishing up a degree in exercise science and try to keep up on current literature. I’m 22 and live out of the house now, but even when I come back to visit she takes offense when I want to cook something that isn’t overprocessed shit. “But it’s low fat…”

Send me a PM - if you’d like, we can figure out a parent education strategy.

Zap has a point, though - she may just be using the creatine to punish you for something else, or simply because she has no idea how to deal with an assertive personality. Try to back off on the aggressive (I don’t mean this in a bad way, though you may have gone over the top) behavior for a while - maybe she just needs to think that she still has some control over what’s going on in the house.

If she does agree to do some real reading on it and not listening to some idiotic/made-up nurse, Will Brink is a good source for very good information well laid-out for the layman. Google his name and his website will come up, we’re not allowed to post links here.

Remember though, approach her calmly and try not to accuse her of anything. People shut down real quick if they feel cornered and nothing will get accomplished.

-Dan

You sound like a lot of my friends during high school - drama queens. My mommy won’t let me do this, my mommy won’t let me do that. Why? Ya probably did something in the first place that said “hey, we can’t trust our kid.” That was the case with all my friends. I never had a curfew or any limitations on what I could do or where I could go because I “brought home the goods” so to speak. I was working 30 hours a week during high school, keeping a 3.8 GPA, and my parents would bend over backwards in accomodating me.

Get on your parents’ side. Show them how you’re responsible. Don’t try to argue with your mom about this topic. Rather, write, essentially, a persuasive essay where you cite sources and whatnot. I think this will show her 1. you’re serious, 2. you’re investing in your health, and 3. you understand what you’re using. If not writing it out, atleast give her documentation to show that you’re not pulling it out of your ass. Approach her like you’d approach a client if you’re a personal trainer, and your client has the same misconceptions as your mom. If you stick to that approach, you can’t go wrong.

[quote]zdrax wrote:
You sound like a lot of my friends during high school - drama queens. My mommy won’t let me do this, my mommy won’t let me do that. Why? Ya probably did something in the first place that said “hey, we can’t trust our kid.” That was the case with all my friends. I never had a curfew or any limitations on what I could do or where I could go because I “brought home the goods” so to speak. I was working 30 hours a week during high school, keeping a 3.8 GPA, and my parents would bend over backwards in accomodating me.

Get on your parents’ side. Show them how you’re responsible. Don’t try to argue with your mom about this topic. Rather, write, essentially, a persuasive essay where you cite sources and whatnot. I think this will show her 1. you’re serious, 2. you’re investing in your health, and 3. you understand what you’re using. If not writing it out, atleast give her documentation to show that you’re not pulling it out of your ass. Approach her like you’d approach a client if you’re a personal trainer, and your client has the same misconceptions as your mom. If you stick to that approach, you can’t go wrong. [/quote]

First of all you can shut your mouth about me being a drama queen; I asked for plausible, verifiable reasons for taking creatine, not your BS little shot at me. I work 24 hours a week and maintain a 5.3 GPA, and I’m earning college credits for psychology and history. By the way I’m only a junior. I have never been in trouble with the law outside of my parents charging me, I don’t get into trouble at school, and I am currently studying college level computer science by myself using textbooks.

You don’t know anything about my home life or what type of parents I have. All I asked for was advice from those who may have encountered similar circumstances; I never whined or complained about anything. I’m not trying to offend you, but when you make BS assumptions you wind up looking like a jackass.

Use your work money to buy some more and then transfer it to a container…for instance an empty gatorade one.

considering creatine is rather cheap, I think it’s easier if you just bought new ones. I don’t mean to offend your mom, but (if your mom is anything like mine and) if Oprah and Dr Phil said creatine is dangerous, there’s nothing you can do. You’ll prolly need to get a signed document from the pope.

Keep it in your school locker or something and use a small container (or a sandwich bag) to take home what you need.

btw, how do you get 5.3 gpa?

At Thomas Incledon’s site,
Look under free articles, non-peer reviewed, creatine.

[quote]beeeeef wrote:
btw, how do you get 5.3 gpa?[/quote]

lots of “extra credit” :open_mouth:

I would just wait until you move out into your own appartment or house, then buy, cook, eat whatever you want.

It sucks, but I doubt you’ll change her mind.

Creatine has always worked great for me, but it’s not extremely important and you still have a LOT of time to make up for the sub-optimal nutrition that’s a result of living with your parents.

Now that I have read all the posts I agree this is about more than creatine. Parents who have their kids formally charged as felons are not going with reason. They have none.

Cutting to the chase–get a new supply and keep it away from home. As for squats and other exercises, do them somewhere else. Do the ones they like where and when they can see it. They will quit bothering you when there is nothing obvious to bother you about. That means shutting up about any and all of this. You have a good GPA and work ethic. Time is on your side. You will be out of there sooner than you think.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
As long as you live in her house you live by her rules.

Try not to worry about the creatine and make her grocery shop for the right kind of foods.

Don’t let her bring chips or any crap into the house.

Politely bug her anytime she eats anything remotely unhealthy. Tell her you love her and you want her to be healthy.

And watch your temper. The creatine may just be a way to punish you for whatever you are doing to piss her off.[/quote]

This is great advise above. I’ve had more luck from chicken and oatmeal than I have had from creatine.

And, you can also ask for lots of steak. After she sees you eating it like a bloodthirsty carnovore, tell her you’re getting your creatine naturally.

BTW - there’s got to be a reason why your mom thinks you’ve gotten violent. What have you done lately? (or what have you been doing…)

Punch her in the ovary. Right to the baby-maker.

Move out and stop getting whiny when people try to give you good advice. Either that or STFU and do what your mommy tells you.

Haha this kind of reminds me of me and my bro. He’s a few years older than me and a skinny shit, im taller and weigh more than him. He’s always jealous. On top of the fact that he’s been using weights for years but hes a fucking idiot. 50 reps witha fking 10 pound dumbell sort of stuff. Well anyways his jealousy got in the way and he lost me my whey by saying to my mum :“Whey is dangerous when people under 18 are taking it, it can really damage their kidneys” Fucking twat. Anyhow ive just had to compensate by eating more. Anyhow your mum was wrong, but dont worry about it, creatine it not essential.

Some people, ignorant eh?

[quote]pitbull11188 wrote:
I did punch a whole in my wall not because of the creatine but because i was mad. That didn’t work out my own parents actually charged me with criminal mischief so i’m not going to repeat that.
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Didn’t you say she accused you of being to violent?

Hey pitbull, I’m pretty much in the same boat as you. I have a 4.6 GPA, im in all the AP classes, and I lift. Unfortunetely our moms could be the same person as far as training methodology is concerned :wink:

I just go out and buy it myself and hide in the back of my closet in an old backpack.

Were you convicted of criminal mischeif or just charged with it, because i was charged with criminal mischeif, vandalism, tresspassing and harrassment, but I got a deal; $1000 fine and if I’m arrested within the next year, I face the new charges plus these.

In short, just buy new creatine, find some articles supporting you, and if worse comes to worse, train when your parents aren’t home and hide your shit.