[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
I don�??�??�?�¢??t web-inflate my numbers;
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No but you did conveniently fail to mention that they were done geared.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
I feel as if the only way I am going to get anything out of all my efforts would be to gear up.
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This also implied to me that your lifts were unequipped.
Maybe it’s just me but it seemed like you were being deliberately misleading. The over35 forum is bullshit free, let’s keep it that way.
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Let me help you here; those numbers were done at a competition, that’s how it’s done so I don’t know what to tell you. Do I need to say I also had a belt on or a pair of shoes? By the way, the bench was done with a bench shirt…and a pause. I can hit the same weight with a touch and go. If you read the whole post you will see I did 600 in the squat without a suit. If that’s too much then call it 500, or 400…stop me when you are happy.
Now for the term gear. The original post mentioned gear, as in juice, as in steroids. If I was not specific with that or if someone misunderstood the term, I’ll shoulder that.
Based upon the information you’ve given I think you could absolutely get to above you’re previous numbers if that is your goal. Doing one of any number of dedicated strength programs while cutting out a lot of the roadwork would get it done in my opinion.
Having said that there isn’t anything wrong with what you are currently doing it just isn’t going to maximize your strength.
I’m 46 and definitely got a big boost in my strength numbers when moving to powerlifting specific programming a little over a year ago. I benched 347 and deadlifted 475 in my first meet and 193 pounds last October and at my most recent meet benched 336 and deadlifted 512 at 183 raw. Numbers at the recent meet would have been higher but I tore my bicep tendon (I had surgery on March 7) on my final curl attempt and the other two lifts came after that happened.
[quote]DBasler wrote:
Based upon the information you’ve given I think you could absolutely get to above you’re previous numbers if that is your goal. Doing one of any number of dedicated strength programs while cutting out a lot of the roadwork would get it done in my opinion.
Having said that there isn’t anything wrong with what you are currently doing it just isn’t going to maximize your strength.
I’m 46 and definitely got a big boost in my strength numbers when moving to powerlifting specific programming a little over a year ago. I benched 347 and deadlifted 475 in my first meet and 193 pounds last October and at my most recent meet benched 336 and deadlifted 512 at 183 raw. Numbers at the recent meet would have been higher but I tore my bicep tendon (I had surgery on March 7) on my final curl attempt and the other two lifts came after that happened. [/quote]
I hear you about the roadwork and agree. I want to try some other aerobic work to help with the heart and weight. I never a weight problem, just wanted to keep a good look.
How long have you been lifting? That 347 bench is sweet, and by the way your DL is going, it sounds like your body is in a real gain mode. Do you mess with any leg training?
I keep running into guys here with bicep issue, I couldn’t begin to understand the pain that must have been in. Hope it heals up nice for you.
I did notice you’re running quite a bit. My cardio is nowhere near what you do running. I get a bunch of cardio walking around all day carrying implements while running my lawn business but it’s not running. The only other cardio I get is running after my daughter when she is riding her bike which again is not running 5 miles three times a week. Hell no do I think squatting heavy is proper for your training prior to the 5K. I think you have a great mix though being able to squat as much as you do and run like that.
Do you do any sprinting? Could some sprinting add to your long distance runs? Maybe some runs with added resistance such as vest could be beneficial or doing loaded carries for long distances could add another variant to your cardio while somewhat addressing building strength and overall loading up your conditioning. Maybe you’re doing enough.
Did I miss it? What is your goal time for the 5K? Last time I timed my runs the best I could manage was 2 miles at 8 minutes a mile and I believe I could do that now.
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]DBasler wrote:
Based upon the information you’ve given I think you could absolutely get to above you’re previous numbers if that is your goal. Doing one of any number of dedicated strength programs while cutting out a lot of the roadwork would get it done in my opinion.
Having said that there isn’t anything wrong with what you are currently doing it just isn’t going to maximize your strength.
I’m 46 and definitely got a big boost in my strength numbers when moving to powerlifting specific programming a little over a year ago. I benched 347 and deadlifted 475 in my first meet and 193 pounds last October and at my most recent meet benched 336 and deadlifted 512 at 183 raw. Numbers at the recent meet would have been higher but I tore my bicep tendon (I had surgery on March 7) on my final curl attempt and the other two lifts came after that happened. [/quote]
I hear you about the roadwork and agree. I want to try some other aerobic work to help with the heart and weight. I never a weight problem, just wanted to keep a good look.
How long have you been lifting? That 347 bench is sweet, and by the way your DL is going, it sounds like your body is in a real gain mode. Do you mess with any leg training?
I keep running into guys here with bicep issue, I couldn’t begin to understand the pain that must have been in. Hope it heals up nice for you. [/quote]
I think what your doing now is likely more beneficial in terms of overall health than a powerlifting program so I’m definitely not being critical of it but if your current goal is gaining significant strength them I think backing off a bit on the roadwork is probably required.
I have been lifting since my late teens but most of that time was either training improperly or training more in a bodybuilder mode. I do train legs once a week with either squats or front squats as the main movement as well as leg curls and depending on where I’m at in my programming occasionally leg presses or some other movements. Don’t squat during meets due to some hernia issues that tend to act up if I squat too heavily for an extended training period.
GV and I are the two on here that have had bicep tears that I know of. Pain isn’t as bad as I think it probably is with some other tears. Didn’t bother me at all benching after it happened. Deadlifting caused significantly more pain but not unbearable.
Training cycle prior to the last meet went really well so I’m hoping to get back to that spot post surgery and so far things seem to be going okay.
[quote]DBasler wrote:
GV and I are the two on here that have had bicep tears that I know of. Pain isn’t as bad as I think it probably is with some other tears. Didn’t bother me at all benching after it happened. Deadlifting caused significantly more pain but not unbearable.
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I’m a member of the Biceps-Tendon Tear Club too. Pain wasn’t nearly as bad as my quad-tendon tear.
EyeDentist,
Quad tendon? I heard about football players that say they could hear it snap. OMG!
[quote]DBasler wrote:
I have been lifting since my late teens but most of that time was either training improperly or training more in a bodybuilder mode. I do train legs once a week with either squats or front squats as the main movement as well as leg curls and depending on where I’m at in my programming occasionally leg presses or some other movements. Don’t squat during meets due to some hernia issues that tend to act up if I squat too heavily for an extended training period. [/quote]
Squats understandably would get a hernia acting up but you can still pull the steel off the floor? Any chance you have a narrow stance?
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
EyeDentist,
Quad tendon? I heard about football players that say they could hear it snap. OMG![/quote]
Yep. I’d like to say I did it repping out 500# squats, but actually I simply slipped and fell with my left leg bent under me in an extreme ‘hurdler’s stretch’ position, and the tendon avulsed completely at the knee. It was an unpleasant sensation–first and only time I ever felt I was going to hurl from pain alone. (That feeling passed quickly and w/o incident, fortunately.) I initially thought I had blown out my knee, but after hobbling around on it for a while I realized the knee was intact, and it was the quad that was damaged.
Have a post-op pic of my weirdly-discolored and swollen leg in my hub.
[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
I did notice you’re running quite a bit. [/quote]
Ya, that’s what it took for me. I’m backing it off for a while.
[quote]Do you do any sprinting? Could some sprinting add to your long distance runs? Maybe some runs with added resistance such as vest could be beneficial or doing loaded carries for long distances could add another variant to your cardio while somewhat addressing building strength and overall loading up your conditioning. Maybe you’re doing enough.
Did I miss it? What is your goal time for the 5K? Last time I timed my runs the best I could manage was 2 miles at 8 minutes a mile and I believe I could do that now.[/quote]
Funny you said something about sprints. My son holds four records in sprinting at our High School and has been to PA States the last 2 years. Just received a small scholarship to run at the collage level. (Those genes must have come from his mom!) I am deathly afraid of sprinting; So worried somethings going to pop. I think all that heavy squatting has me spun too tight. I did a 400 for shits and giggles last summer; 86 sec. My son does it in 50.2.
I do like your suggestion on mixing it up. I found that the elliptical we have is easy on my quad, an issue I had prior to my 10K. 10K time was 50:39 and last years 5K was 24:32. If you are pounding it at an 8 min mile, that’s good! I doubt most big guys can do that. Two miles aint far in a car but try running it!
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
[quote]DBasler wrote:
I have been lifting since my late teens but most of that time was either training improperly or training more in a bodybuilder mode. I do train legs once a week with either squats or front squats as the main movement as well as leg curls and depending on where I’m at in my programming occasionally leg presses or some other movements. Don’t squat during meets due to some hernia issues that tend to act up if I squat too heavily for an extended training period. [/quote]
Squats understandably would get a hernia acting up but you can still pull the steel off the floor? Any chance you have a narrow stance?
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Didn’t know that Eye Dentist had a bicep tear also.
No issues with the Hernia while pulling. Definitely pull narrow, no sumo for me.
[quote]EyeDentist wrote:
Have a post-op pic of my weirdly-discolored and swollen leg in my hub.[/quote]
Ouch, saw the pic! Don’t take this the wrong way but I’m glad it had nothing to do with squatting!
BTW, those pic.s current? Damn good shape for a guy half your age!
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
BTW, those pic.s current? Damn good shape for a guy half your age![/quote]
Thanks. Some of those pics are a year or so old, but I still look the same (for better or worse).
[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Thanks for the complement but I want to hear where everyone else is and was. I don’t need someone who never put the time in like I did nor was able to be competitive to tell me to stop bitching. I held my own then and still can. This was never about me vs. someone else, it was about me vs. myself, and I was only looking for a gage.
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Lower you weight max and do this to increase your androgen receptors as well as free test: