41 years old.
Last year total test 546
This year total test 396
Started injections every 2 weeks.
Week two starts tomorrow another injection
I do not know how much is in my head but I feel a lot better already.
Well first of all injecting every 2 weeks is primative HRT
One should be injecting bi weekly are every other day depending on how much you want to stick your self. I prefer the bi weekly 50 mgs with 250 ius of HCG day before the shot to give you a little boost. By taking a shot every 2 weeks you are going from peak of 1400-1600 to a trough of 300. This for many can be a huge emotional rollercoaster ride as well as causing huge fluctuation of estrodial which can nullify the positive benefit of TRT in a heart beat if it is not kept in check properly. 2 weeks you have not even begin to reach plasms levels which are reached in 5-6 weeks. I had a patient that was given 400 mgs every 4 weeks and QOL was so horrible that he could barely function at work. The idea alone of controling the estrodial from those monsterous swinds was daunting in it self. We switched him to bi weekly shots with hcg with 60% reduction and armidex 3 weeks later he was a new person emotionally and phyiscally. This is just one example of many guys who have been put on this rollercoaster ride for no reason at all when corrected he now feels normal and healthy again. By using huge amounts of testosteone it can also cause other imbalance in your adrenals and also your thyroid hormones whick 90% of the Dr’s have no clue on how to properly evaluate in the first place.
[quote]6543210 wrote:
41 years old.
Last year total test 546
This year total test 396
Started injections every 2 weeks.
Week two starts tomorrow another injection
I do not know how much is in my head but I feel a lot better already.[/quote]
Androgel for the week before next injection.
Thanks !!!
Androgel seemed over priced to me.The weekly or bi-weekly injections look like the way to go.My doc has me on every two weeks.with blood work in 3 months.Going to wait for the next blood work before asking for HCG or others. I felt better last week but I would not call what I feel now as a crash.
Got lab work in
Total T 366 (250-1100) ng/dl
Free T 84.5 (35-155) pg/ml
% free 2.31 (1.5-2.2) %
Lab done 14 days after injection.
As HAN stated I’m on the roller coaster lol.
Push your doctor to let you self-inject. Then you can control the frequency.
Dr was cool with me self-injecting. Going to start next week.Lab work including E2 in three months.
check out the blood test sticky.
push for as many as you can.
Will do. Thanks
Hay 6543210, how are you making out. Just curious.
I’m doing pretty good. Even with the swings of injections every two weeks. I’m looking forward to weekly injections , see how that goes then maybe move to twice a week.
I was put on Testim gel back in July do to my generally feeling crappy and drained. Was referred to a urologist and he put me on the gel. My Free Test went from 7 to now 33 as of last week and my doc wants me to cut my dose in half. I’ve been getting blood test every 4 weeks. My problem is that I finally feel really good and can really see all the hard work I’ve been putting in the gym paying off. I don’t want to cut back on my dose but told him I would. My question may be dumb but I was wondering if there is anything I can do prior to my blood test to lower my readings so that I can stay at the dose I like and yet have him feel comfortable with my numbers. Maybe I’m just being crazy or foolish. Thanks for any help.
keeping your number inflated will results in excess aromatase to E2 or DHT issues both of which are not good along with a ton of other potential side effects. Yes, you can keep up the extra dose for a short while, but what are you going to do when your “extra” runs out once you have to refill on the lower prescribed amount?
If your T is dialed into where it is suppose to be, you should still see gains in the gym. excess gains are from excess T is just like cycling and there is a reason that bodybuilders don’t maintain at that level. even they realize the damage and harm they can do to their body.
your right but I do have one more question. what is the best way to get the most accurate readings. I go in the morning on an empty stomach. I do however do cardio prior to going to get it checked. Shoud I hold off on the cardio or would it have no effect? Thanks for your response. And is 33 that high for Free test reading?
Free Test at my lab has a “normal” window of 6.5 - 28.1 pg/ml.
[quote]unsungwear wrote:
And is 33 that high for Free test reading?[/quote]
hard to tell since you didnt provide units or ranges
FT varies a lot with transdermals. When was lab done and when was prior dose?
With frequent injections, FT varies very little and what you get is the real deal, not a dose-timing artifact.
Do not hijack posts concerning others personal condition/labs etc by injecting yours. Open your own thread and keep that one going with you updates. If you want to discuss someone else’s details that is great, or add your experience to make a point in that discussion, that is good too.
FT ranges are all over the map with different labs. We always want ranges and FT really can be useless without.
6543210…take a copy of the protocol and estradiol stickies to your doc next visit. I was able to get mine to listen and adjust everything. He had me on a ridiculous dose and injecting every 2 weeks also. I’ve been to 4 docs and you wouldn’t believe the response i get from some of them regarding what is said on this forum…IMO the guys that are going through it should be the ones to take advice from.
Starting my second week of 200 mg a week.Feel great so far, big difference from once every two weeks.
good to hear.
something fo you to think about (or at least here is how I see it).
Let’s say you are at 10% capacity and feeling pretty bad, so you try biweekly shots and they wreck your system, so you switch to weekly shots. Wow much better, you are 200% better then before… but you know what you are still only at 30% capacity… you are still having hormone swings and stressing your body… why not switch to shots every three days and see how you do? what if you could get to 70% or 90%?.. why settle for 30%?
also if you have to take 200mg Test a week then there is a very good chance that there is something else ‘off’ with your system that needs to get fixed… oh wait… nevermind… I just reread your thread and realized you are not looking for high ‘normal’ results.