I started injecting every 3 days on monday.Felt good on once a week but thought I would give it a try due to not having any AI.I have lab work in December.
If I stay on e3d should my labs be done the third day before my injection?If I go back to once a week would labs on the sixth day give me the most accurate results?
I do labs the day of my schedule shot with the blood draw BEFORE my shot for that day. That way I can see what my lowest levels look like. I have also gotten a one or two tests done on the day after the shot to see what my levels look like at the highest.
It all depends on how fast your system clears the Testosterone. Mine dumps T like crazy. I was on 80mg T-Cyp E3D and I was going from 1500+ on day 2 down to 600 on day 4. That made me switch to EOD to level out the swings even more.
if you are taking 100mg a week divided into E3D shots and your test levels are at 500 or less on day 4 (the day of the shot), then you may want to switch to EOD or get another test on day 2 to see what your levels look like at the highest. Some docs may let you test on both days initially. May not hurt to ask.
New Lab work 4 days after 100 mg injection.
Testosterone 1144 (250-1100)
Free Testosterone 360.4 (35-155)
Estradiol 88 (13-54) Holy shit I’m going to start watching the view
I go to the doctor next week.
any tests for TSH or Cortisol?
seems like your T is way too high for your system or your cortisol is way too low.
Just cbc, e2,and test this go around. TSH was 2.16 last lab, Cortisol has never been checked.
I plan to lower my dose to 150 Mg a week and see if I can get some AI next week.
Even with the very high E2 I feel pretty damn good
[quote]6543210 wrote:
New Lab work 4 days after 100 mg injection.
Testosterone 1144 (250-1100)
Free Testosterone 360.4 (35-155)
Estradiol 88 (13-54) Holy shit I’m going to start watching the view
I go to the doctor next week.[/quote]
You mean 4 days after your 200mg injection, right? Not 100mg injection ?
I was doing 100mg twice a week for a total of 200mg. The lab was done 4 days after 100mg.
I plan on talking to the Doctor about getting the E2 under control and maybe trying 125 -150mg a week.
Testosterone is just over the upper range, Free test is more than double the range, is that good or bad.
If you are a normal anastrozole responder, your starting dose should be 1.5mg/week in OED divided doses. Dose is proportional to T dose. Many docs are ignorant and fearful of Arimidex. Explain that you want to use it to modulate E2 levels to get near serum E2=22pg/ml, around 40% of the top end of the range.
Just an update, Doctor wanted to hold off Arimidex.Lowered dose to 100 mg a week.
Blood work was taken 7 days after 100mg injection.
Labs: Test Total 374 (250- 1100)
Test Free 83.4 (35-155)
Estradiol 40 (13-54)
I now have an Anastrozole script.
at 100mg once a week, you are still subjecting your body to hormone swings.
your TSH of > 2 indicates a problem with your thyroid that is being left untreated.
since you have hormone and thyroid problems, there is a great chance that your cortisol/adrenals is far from ideal.
if you asked for additional tests to confirm your thyroid/cortisol problems and then got on the right treatment program you could see some amazing results.
just my 2 cents.
TSH=2.16
Seems like almost every new guy has some thyroid problems, spending more time on that then TRT lately.
“Blood work was taken 7 days after 100mg injection.”
face-palm!
What a waste, read the damm stickies. TRT: Protocol for Injections - Testosterone Replacement - Forums - T Nation
What anastrozole dose on that script?
[quote]KSman wrote:
Seems like almost every new guy has some thyroid problems, spending more time on that then TRT lately.
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it is pretty amazing how interconnected all of the systems are.
I truly wonder if:
OR
I’m guessing it’s probably somewhere in the middle. There are probably a lot of people suffering who don’t know any better because they have been let down by the medical establishment and have just given up or given in, but there are others whose systems are able to keep working just fine (due to better genetics or other factors) with just a bandaid (like stand alone Androderm).
TSH = 2.16 Is it worth adding Drugs to lower into ideal range?
Waiting 7 days after injection for blood work was to check E2 levels at what I thought would be at the lowest level.I winged down from a little less than 100mg E3d, to 100mg e4d,e5d, e6d, once a week. Never had base line E2 numbers.
The Anastrozole script is the basic 1/2 mg twice a week.4 pills per script, Im plan on calling to see if doctor can change script to 1mg twice a week so I can find out what works for me.
TSH of 2.16 says you need additional testing before you do anything.
at a minimum you need Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, 8am Cortisol, and Ferritin.
50mg E3D is pretty standard and REALLY helps stabilize the huge swings in hormone levels that weekly or biweekly shots give you.
plus if you do end up needing an AI how much do you dose? do you dose based on your peak at day 2ish or your lowest at day 6ish or do you continually change your dosage to try and match your changing T levels (people spend months/years just trying to balance a single AI dose regimen, so changing that regimen every day/week would basically be impossible).