I probably have enough fat around mine to make another one 
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Congrats man! And thank you for what you do.
And The Last Kingdom is the best show going! I’m about to kick off season 4. I identify unhealthily with Uhtred
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Awesome workout J, looks like a tough one.
Spare lower back, If you find a pair send one of them my way.
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Aren’t you the one who keeps preaching that workouts don’t need to kill you?
Awesome work J, big, basic and effective.
Burn.
6.16.20
Woke at 232.6 which is the heaviest day this year.
It was tough but there was no urge to puke!
Not only was it tough, I’m going to do it again in about three days.
My lower back is sore this morning. It’s a good thing I don’t plan on doing anything today. I had to do rest/pause on the reverse flys yesterday but it was because my lower back we burning so much.
I think the only reason I can do that workout more than once is because it’s full of the things I really like.
I might split the clean pulls and power cleans. The workout I’m using/butchering for those actually calls for cleans one day and pulls on the other. I’m also supposed to be doing down sets of 5x2 on cleans but I haven’t had the energy. I’m either going to do that on the second day of the week along with more pulls or I’ll just split the pulls and cleans.
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I think this is one of the biggest “problems” in training, more specifically communicating training. It’s very hard to quantify or communicate how hard you’re working in a workout compared to your current physical abilities because the mind plays such an important role.
The real ass-kicking programs that we all tend to get excited about test our minds as much as our bodies and make our minds stronger, obviously. But that then means that our perception of “difficult” is very different from someone who hasn’t done those programs.
A quick example: the first week of Dave Tates periodisation bible calls for 5 x 10 @ 62% (if I remember correctly). I tried that at some point last year, pre-MMS, and found it to be absolutely horrendous. Same sets, same % now would be so straightforward, I’d probably get carried away on good days and start combining sets.
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Our bodies adapt to whatever we do (big surprise). I’m pretty accustomed to 60 sec rest periods but I see a lot of people using that for “short rests”. I chuckle inside.
After doing high volume stuff, it only makes sense that it’s easier down the road. Brian always does giant sets so it’s normal for him whereas it buries the rest of us… for a time.
I’ll be starting my rapid fat/bloat loss plan tomorrow. Tonight is pizza, cake and ice cream for my son’s official birthday party. I only have two days because Friday is my team party for work and Saturday is our friends’ 6th annual hot dog bar and pool party. The 21st is also our 12 year wedding anniversary… Might be 235 in a week.
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60s would probably be top end of my rest periods for most upper body stuff and lighter lower body stuff. I genuinely don’t understand what people do with 5min rest periods unless the previous set really was an all out, balls to the wall set of a big exercise.
It strikes me watching some of his videos that Brian has been working “too hard” for decades, whereas I’ve been working too easy for not quite 2 years.
Enjoy your sons party man. I usually enjoy those more than my own.
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Rest length (at least for some) is usually relative To how heavy a set is. If you are doing 5 sets of 5 at 85% I would think for most it would be hard to rest 30 seconds at get through all the reps.
On the other hand when I am doing assistance exercises like dumbbell rows or close grip bench I often feel like I don’t even need to rest.
Unless it’s arm work, and not even all the time, I rest at least 2 mins. It’s simple, I use more weight when I rest. And it’s not because you rest 3 mins you can’t have a crazy.
But of course if you’re doing lower RPE you can feel the itch to go back to it instantly
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I much enjoyed the train your ass of series from EliteFTS.
To add to the rest period discourse, I select my rest period on my goal. Strength work, I’ll rest properly, hypertrophy work, I’ll do shorter rests. This tends to follow the “how heavy is it” strategy already being discussed here. If you’re still on the floor trying to get your balance back, does it really matter how much time has passed since your last set?
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Shouldn’t you still try to use the most heaviest weight possible when doing hypertrophy, as long as you can focus on the muscle?
No arguments here.
To clarify, tonight I’ll be doing lower body work. My session starts with the back squat. My goal with the back squat is to become stronger at that lift. Therefore, I allow myself ample rest (3-4m) to perform as well as I can on all my work sets. These aren’t to failure, there’s some muscle damage, but with my leverages it’s not a great tool for hypertrophy and it’s not exactly my quads that give out first anyway so I don’t really care about feeling the muscle work here.
Later in that session, I’ll be doing a leg extension immediately followed by a leg press. The goal here is hypertrophy. With these two, I don’t really care about performance. Therefore, I don’t rest that long in between (60-90s) between sets maybe. Since one of the means I’m achieving hypertrophy here is through muscle fiber fatigue it doesn’t matter to me at all that I might have some residual fatigue from my previous set as long as I keep to my rep range I’m happy.
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I stumbled across the deadlift version of these yesterday, oddly. Didn’t manage to focus too well because of other stuff, but I’ll definitely give it another look at some point.
Yeah I think you’re completely right. Though, right now 95% of my sets are RPE 10-11, so I give myself more rest to stay in the same rep range.
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I just watched a few of those, am I the only one wondering how they’d fair taking a beat down Dave Tate style?
@dagill2 @aldebaran @simo74 @Voxel
I very much understand rest as it pertains to the goal and intensity. I believe that that you can still build strength under fatigue. The progression for Beginner and Intermediate Deep Water is a.c. reduction of the rest times.
The other aspect is your conditioning. Do I think that I’ll lift peak weights by cutting my rest short? No. Can I still move 90% of my top weights? Yes.
This is also where super sets and giant sets come into play - you can “rest” your body for a specific movement while doing another movement.
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As Hamster would say, that is just a giant shit waiting to come out.
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