I did that last year and I looked terrible! I’m much happier with what I see in the mirror now… I feel better too!
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we’ve lost a soldier.
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I kid. Alternatively, you COULD chase 500 at 210-215. I’ll see if I can beat you there.
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Once I’m healthy, I may pursue my deadlift dreams again. But at 34 years of age, and having my fourth joint surgery next month, I have to consider risk/reward with my training.
Will my hips hold up to training for a 600 lb deadlift? And what will I gain if I achieve it? Will it change my quality of life?
The answers to those are: Maybe, nothing, and no.
It’s the sad reality of training. It’s mostly personal and while we all cheer each other on, I don’t think anyone thinks any less or more of a person because of their PRs.
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Even though it’s contradictory to my previous response, I will probably do that. I pulled 500 (actually topped out at 545) once so I should be able to do it again.
Once I hit my 700lb deadlift, I expect my quality of life to improve tenfold.
Just sayin’.
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You can bodyslam heavier criminals.
Well, as you stated in another log, your life is already phenomenal so F you! I guess once you pull 700 lbs the Publisher’s Clearinghouse is going to show up and offer you $5000 a week for life.
Power cleans, brother. I could power clean 300+ long before I deadlifted 450 lbs. I didn’t train deadlifts at the time, but I still think a 300+ power clean is more awesome than my deadlift.
I’ll admit that my form is decent for an average gym bro, but terrible compared to a weight lifter. But that just means I have to be even more powerful because my technique isn’t as efficient as it could be!
I’ll have to do some math but I was actually thinking about keeping my deadlift loads below 450 and just working on my rep strength; however, I’m not sure if doing heavier weight for singles and doubles would be less or more work than a lower weight done for more reps. So…
Workout A:
135 x 5 = 675
225 x 5 = 1125
315 x 5 = 1575
365 x 5 = 1825
405 x 10 = 4050 lbs
Total Weight Moved = 9250 lbs
Workout B:
135 x 5 = 675
225 x 5 = 1125
315 x 1 = 315
365 x 1 = 365
405 x 1 = 405
455 x 1 = 455
495 x 1 = 495
545 x 1 = 545
Total Weight Moved = 4380 lbs
Hmmmmmm…. I wonder which is actually less destructive to the joint. Someone is going to have to help me figure out how much force is being applied to the hip joint to find the true answer to this one…
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Haha! That’s rich. Pun intended.
This is insane. I’d be willing to bet you could have pulled 450 that day.
Throw in another 8000 pounds of accessories and you have heavy work AND volume. You could also eat more and stay the same weight.
Will my hips hold up to training for a 600 lb deadlift? And what will I gain if I achieve it? Will it change my quality of life?
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That’s the strange thing about this lifestyle. We’re already in better shape than 99% of the population, yet here we’re chasing a number or a weight. Guess that’s how we got to this point in the first place
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Yup. Oh well. I’m still chasing big numbers. There’s a reason I’m not the 99% of people who are out of shape…
I’m not sure if this is a fact for me. I guess I need to figure it out. If I’m paying attention to my food then I’m either gaining or losing weight on purpose, but in between those periods I’m kind of oblivious.
I also eat the same amount of calories regardless of what I do during the day. I’m not really certain how one training session affects my metabolic rate - i.e. legs vs back or high volume vs low volume. The only thing I know is how long I train and a ballpark intensity.
We’re definitely motivated to achieve more, but in my case is it worth the potential injury to my hips to deadlift more weight? Is 500 or 600 lbs really going to improve my quality of living more than a 400 or 450 lb deadlift? Probably not.
I have hip impingement on both sides. My left labrum was torn and repaired in 2017. My right hip labrum is currently torn. X-rays show that I have more bone formation than the space can accommodate so if I do a deep squat I have bone from my femur grinding against my pelvis. It’s tearing up the cartilage on the head of my femur as well as the labrum and surface of my pelvis. Think it’s worth damaging that and risking a hip replacement for a heavy for me deadlift and squat? I don’t. I still have the desire to do those things but I don’t have a good reason to do those things. I have two damn good reasons not to do them, though.
I might have to go back to training the power clean only once I’m past all of this pain and dysfunction. I can do some serious work, move big weights, and develop some great power with less weight than I’d use on deads or squats. I also won’t being going into near as much hip flexion since I catch in the quarter squat position.
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I’ll just throw in my 2 cents on the context of pulling, squatting, benching a big number.
You have achieved a very very heavy deadlift, you might think it’s not a heavy DL but the truth is that it is. Yes around here it might not be heavy. But I think anybody in here will acknowledge your pull as something really heavy.
When you’re injured or not able to perform any lift without jeopardizing your health, then I would call it off, which you have done. And that is wise.
I’m pretty sure you know what to pursue, namely physique and athleticism,
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I second this opinion.
Yep. I think I can make power cleans fit that approach, too. I didn’t start deadlifting until that silly 600 lb Deadlift thread started. That’s when I pulled 450 on a whim. I was just curious where I stacked up. I’d say that’s not too shabby considering all of my pulling had been power cleans and clean pulls up to that point. I’d like to power clean 315 again someday and actually capture video proof.
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5.17.19
Woke at 207.0 lbs. I guess I actually have to lose two more pounds of fat to reach my goal. I had such good luck dropping all the junk and going from 217 to 210 and then 210 to 207 that I thought it might happen quickly. Silly me. I know better.
Yesterday wasn’t a complete rest day. I had PT and that went well as usual. My left leg got a good workout and I was able to do some stuff pain free that was a problem last week. She keeps giving me more exercises and it’s tough to keep up with all of them.
During the first few weeks, I had a shortish list of things to do and I was supposed to do 1x20 on all of them every day. Well, I have been doing that and I think I’ve been constantly fatigued. I decided to rotate exercises this week - do some of the new ones a couple days; do some of the old ones every other day or so, etc. My leg day is also nothing but rehab exercises; I just push the loads a bit more.
Well, I think my new approach has allowed me to recover and that’s why I feel so much better. If it’s optimal to hit a muscle every five days or so in the gym then why is PT training any different? I wouldn’t go five days between rehab exercises but every other day or every third day should work just as well. It’s a lot easier too.
I’m still feeling good and I’m even driving my assigned Charger this week. I’m careful when I get in and out but so far it’s been okay.
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Back Workout
(Lunch Break)
PULL UPS (R/P)
BW x 6 x 2 sets
BW x 8-3-2-2
PENDLAY ROW (MYO)
135 x 8 x 2 sets
135 x 11-3-3-3-3-3
NEUTRAL GRIP PULL DOWN (MYO)
140 x 10
150 x 10
170 x 8-3-3-3-2
WENDLER ROW (CABLE, mTor)
200 (whole stack) x 20 + 30 sec stretch x 2 sets
SA REV CABLE FLY (21’s)
20 x 10F/10T/10B x 2 sets
SA REV CABLE FLY (REAR DELT EMPHASIS, DROP SET)
30 x 12
20 x 12
10 x 16
DB HAMMER CURL (DROP SET)
30 x 25
25 x 10
20 x 10
15 x 10
10 x 20
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I’m beginning to question whether or not this last two pounds is worth the effort. What happens when I hit 205? I go to maintenance and then what? I float between 205 and 210. Well, I’m at 207 now, so…
I ate a donut.
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I literally laughed out loud About the donut
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It was amazing. Someone brought Dunkin Donuts to the station and after smelling them for way too long I decided to eat one.
I thought to myself “What the heck am I doing? I’m happy with the way I look. I’m eating a donut. There’s no reason to deprive myself of this.”
I could’ve eaten the entire box, though. So good…
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