[quote]BobParr wrote:
Ever notice that when humans claim to have been taken aboard an alien craft, they invariably experience an anal probing? [/quote]
Which is why I really want to be abducted by aliens…
Wait, what?
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Yea, it is kinda scary, I mean if you try to put yourself in an ET’s shoes, why would you search for other life? Well if you are an race early in the space exploration phase, Say a little past our own advancement, where interstellar travel is possible but it’s not something you have been doing for a long time, then you may just be explorers and you may find life and study it from afar to gather as much information as possible whithout disturbing the natural balance of the world you are observing.
However, we all know star system die, Planets resources can be consumed and populations can multiply and overwhelm a given system. So there is also a strong chance that a further advanced race would be looking for resources, and the likleyhood that they would be hostile is pretty substantial.
Then again, a race MAY have advanced technologically to the point where they can use energy and resources in some way that is not harmful to thier own system. Say farming asteroids for raw materials and changing the molecular structure of the compounds to suit thier own needs. So a very advanced ET race could just be exploring as well and mean us no harm. Of course, they may also know that thier technology took a long time to develop, and there were lessons learned during the development that are essential to learn otherwise a race may misuse technology. So they may leave us alone as we would be too dangerous if we were allowed to weild advanced technology without learning the lessons they did through development.
In the end, I hope they don’t come here and destroy our planet or enslave humanity, maybe they could just take all the assholes and make them slaves and leave the good people.
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My ex used to argue with me that aliens would be so far ahead of us they would look upon us as insects and squash us without a second thought. I disagree… just because you have superior technology does mean you can murder or enslave another intelligent creature without remorse. There are still some stone age tribes living in remote jungles. We don’t just exterminate them or enslave them. We send anthropologists to study them while trying not to interfere too much. We also run topless photos of their women in National Geographic magazine for the edification of 8-year-old American boys. (Or we used to, anyway – the first naked chick I ever saw had a bone through her nose.)
Maybe aliens who come here (assuming any have) are just harmless anthropologists or magazine photo journalists.
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.[/quote]
Don’t you side with him you Ghey Hat wearing numbskull!
Look, there are only so many ways matter can arrange itself. Evolution has pretty much dictated that living things in water locomote a certain way and living things on land locomote a certain way or ways. I would be highly surprised if aliens came here and didn’t naturally either swim walk or fly, depending on thier origional habitat. Hell they MIGHT even slither, but it’s not likley.
I agree with you about another plane of existance, though I wouldn’t call those beings aliens so much. Technically aliens would only be 3rd dimensional entities as the earth itself isn’t a 4th dimensional (or higher) structure. I mean Shit, thats almost like saying God is an alien. Pshhh Child Please.
V
[quote]DickBag wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.[/quote]
Don’t you side with him you Ghey Hat wearing numbskull!
Look, there are only so many ways matter can arrange itself. Evolution has pretty much dictated that living things in water locomote a certain way and living things on land locomote a certain way or ways. I would be highly surprised if aliens came here and didn’t naturally either swim walk or fly, depending on thier origional habitat. Hell they MIGHT even slither, but it’s not likley.
I agree with you about another plane of existance, though I wouldn’t call those beings aliens so much. Technically aliens would only be 3rd dimensional entities as the earth itself isn’t a 4th dimensional (or higher) structure. I mean Shit, thats almost like saying God is an alien. Pshhh Child Please.
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how do you know we are not aliens[/quote]
Well actually if we find any life anywhere else but earth then we ARE my good friend.
V
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.[/quote]
I ddn’t read SSC’s post, but what’s the reason for such an assertion? Why wouldn’t most organisms in the universe function like the ones on our planet assuming they all experienced some form of evolution? What do you mean by “another plane of existence”? Why don’t we exist on such a plane? I’d imagine we’d find extraterrestrial organisms to have characteristics that help them survive in their environment; unless that environment is beyond our comprehension, what makes you think these extraterrestrial organisms would be beyond our comprehension?
Would it be fair to say that initially they would be beyond our comprehension but after studying them and their behaviors we would come to understand them? I mean Isaac Newton had an advanced understanding of physics with basically using only his logic and observation and some very rudimentary equipment that’s almost laughable by today’s standards (the equipment, not Newton).
My parallel universe is caught in the knots of your string theory.
[quote]BobParr wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]SSC wrote:
interstellar travel (it’s damn near impossible, according to Einstein)
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Careful. Einstein was one of the greatest minds in history, no doubt about it, but he was limited by the physics of his time. He advanced science with some incredible ideas, but you can only have so many theories that go against what is already known. For example, he adamantly denied the existence of black holes, which are obviously known today as scientific fact. It’s also important to note that most of the brilliant minds behind the creation of the atomic bomb didn’t even believe it was possible until the late 30s and even early 40s, and these were the guys that ultimately made it happen in a span of a few years. To relate this back to the topic at hand, I think the mere fact that we have imagined the possibility of interstellar travel proves that it will someday become a reality for us. So it then holds that we are almost certainly not the first to think about it, and furthermore, somebody else has already mastered it.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
My parallel universe is caught in the knots of your string theory.[/quote]
My mind is reeling from the various “I see what you did there’s” that are intertwined in this post.
I wept.
[quote]DickBag wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.[/quote]
I ddn’t read SSC’s post, but what’s the reason for such an assertion? Why wouldn’t most organisms in the universe function like the ones on our planet assuming they all experienced some form of evolution? What do you mean by “another plane of existence”? Why don’t we exist on such a plane? I’d imagine we’d find extraterrestrial organisms to have characteristics that help them survive in their environment; unless that environment is beyond our comprehension, what makes you think these extraterrestrial organisms would be beyond our comprehension?
Would it be fair to say that initially they would be beyond our comprehension but after studying them and their behaviors we would come to understand them? I mean Isaac Newton had an advanced understanding of physics with basically using only his logic and observation and some very rudimentary equipment that’s almost laughable by today’s standards (the equipment, not Newton).[/quote]
i agree.
Jeez talk about selling yourself short with the “aliens are beyond our comprehension”
Its as silly as saying “women are impossible to understand”
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i’m talking about beings that exist in multiple dimensions, specifically. I’ve often thought about the things we can’t see viewing everything in the third dimension.
just as a big “what-if”:
what if black holes are the 3rd dimensional representation of a 4th or 5th dimensional being? (3rd dimensional creatures exist in both the 1st and 2nd dimension)
almost like taking a cross section of a sphere and ending up with a circle, you only see a sliver of the whole thing.
That’s what i was getting at: that aliens don’t have to be made of meat like us.
there is very little we understand about the non physical aspects of our universe.
They may have a different understanding of space time, or even the same understanding but the ability to manipulate them in ways we can’t understand.
It is strange the way that what ever it was in that video seemed to emerge from a point consecutive to the previous place that it was, and the contrail re-formed. I’ve heard a description of frames of time described as that appears. It’s as if space and time were separated or resized from the proportions which we exist in and perceive as continuous or inseparable.
Very strange.
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…[/quote]
Not necessarily. Mammals developed tits as a survival/ evolutionary/ reproductory tool in a specific environment (this planet), so what we consider to be a “reptile” may be able to develop mammalian features given the right evolutionary push (another planet). So all bets are off really.
The human race has already developed several canine characteristics (pack hunting patterns, a set home) which although not physical adaptations, set us on a different evolutionary path to our primate relatives. Also, the human breast is amazingly different in look and function to that of, say, a chimpanzee’s - partly because of the developments mentioned above, which in the long run become physical as well as mental improvements. It’s far too much to go into here. Suffice to say, there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to evolution. Especially when you give it enough time.
Wormwoodtheory is an alien.
^True story.
[quote]roybot wrote:
The human breast is amazingly different in look and function to that of a Chimpanzee’s.
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Thats for sure.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
for an alien to have tits it would have to be a mammal…and then it wouldn’t be very alien then would it? SSC hit the nail on the head, the other beings in our universe are beyond our comprehension, and most likely operate on another plane of existence altogether.[/quote]
I ddn’t read SSC’s post, but what’s the reason for such an assertion? Why wouldn’t most organisms in the universe function like the ones on our planet assuming they all experienced some form of evolution? What do you mean by “another plane of existence”? Why don’t we exist on such a plane? I’d imagine we’d find extraterrestrial organisms to have characteristics that help them survive in their environment; unless that environment is beyond our comprehension, what makes you think these extraterrestrial organisms would be beyond our comprehension?
Would it be fair to say that initially they would be beyond our comprehension but after studying them and their behaviors we would come to understand them? I mean Isaac Newton had an advanced understanding of physics with basically using only his logic and observation and some very rudimentary equipment that’s almost laughable by today’s standards (the equipment, not Newton).[/quote]
This truly isn’t self-promotion, but wouldn’t it possibly make sense to read prior posts to understand why our train of thought got to the point that it did?
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
there is very little we understand about the non physical aspects of our universe.[/quote]
I feel like there isnt that much we understand about the physical aspects either.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The human breast is amazingly different in look and function to that of a Chimpanzee’s.
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Thats for sure. [/quote]
Heh. Obviously nobody here has a hankering to suckle a money teet (I hope), but that’s the point. The breast of a human female has evolved more as a sexual signal to the adult male than as a feeding tool for a baby, to the point where the small nipple and large (sometimes) breast size actually impede the baby’s feeding (a chimp’s nip is far more practical in construction).
It’s all good though. Our obsession with breasts and/or ass (which mirror each other as sexual signals) represent how the human brain and our need for stimulus developed in tandem.
So I’d like to dedicate this post to tits and ass, for making me the person I am today.
[quote]SSC wrote:
[quote]horsepuss wrote:
Anyone who doesnt believe in aliens or UFO’s is a damn fool.[/quote]
By whose standards?
Ask the majority of biologists and they’ll tell you that alien life is non-probable because of the varying and anomolistic conditions in which evolution happened for the human race.
For instance. My figures may be a bit off, but close enough - But organisms originally all lived in the water for like what, 6 billion years? And only within the last billion years have they somehow evolved into something further - an event in which evolutionists still don’t have concrete reasons for. That’s a LARGE portion of time for simple life to exist and only a short time of having anything further, without any kind of explanation for why or how it happened.
Then, eventually these organisms migrated from water to land because there was too much competition in the seas. This alone could’ve been attributed to fluke genes, or rare characteristics in evolution that allowed life outside water possible.
And what about dinosaurs? Without their extinction, one can safely assume that there would be NO human life on this planet if they had continued existence. We simply wouldn’t be able to match them in the competitive life cycle.
Look, I’m NOT saying alien life doesn’t exist, it might. But if it does, I feel there’s a good chance it’s not evolved enough to make conscious decisions of galactic travel and motives that are human-like. I think most concepts of aliens and the way they operate are, as I’ve said, personified and dramaticized by years of theory and, as Vegita showed, ancient myths about people from the skies or what not.
Everyone wants something beyond their own normal and mundane lives to believe in, and that’s cool, I accept that. Some people have Gods, some have aliens, others have doomsday prophecies. It’s all about personal beliefs.[/quote]
Im glad you pointed out that your figures may be off because right off the bat they were. The world is only 4-4.5 billion years old. Scientists have created amino acids out of just water elecricity and heat, now aminos dont lead to us but they do creat a starting point.
We know more about the bottom of the marianas trench then we know about the dark side of the moon. Now you mention that scientist are still very confused about our evolution mainly Macro Evolution even tho we can clearly see the path from homo erectus and beyond to us.
Here is my theory. The dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago and us (homo sapiens) evolved out of homo erectus 250,000 years ago in africa. Now lets say a life form like us or atleast with the potential to be as intelligent as us eveolved much sooner like 500,000 years ago or more.Now take a look at where we are in technology and its easy to imagine where we could be in another 250,000 years.
So if you take the idae that there could be thousands of hospitable planets out there somewhere and the figure of 250,000-500,000 and 65million and divide it you get 260 and 130. That means there are 260 and 130 chances for another life form to evolve to atleast our intelligence within the last 65million years.
Lots of poeple think well if there out there why dont we see them or why dont they show themselves, well look at it this way. We drop of Navy Seals on foriegn siol to conduct secret mission all the time. Nobody sees them so why would we see aliens if they didnt want us too.
Interesting thread. On Sunday (July11) at ~2 a.m. I saw a UFO as I was driving home. As I was driving down my normal road, I saw two red lights in the sky off to the side, which were moving in a back and forth type of motion. I didn’t understand what a helicopter would be doing out in the middle of the night (If it were a police copter i’m sure they’d have some sort of search light). I decided to go out of my way and investigate since it didn’t appear to be too far. As I got closer, one of the red lights turned green and began to blink and the UFO stayed still. I drove very slowly (no traffic) and was actually under it, trying to figure out what it was. As an estimate, it was hovering about me about the height of a four story building. I opened my window, and there was literally no noise. I eventually drove past it and did a u-turn. I wanted to park under the thing and investigate further. How many opportunities like this do you get? (In my case, 2) Upon doing my u-turn I looked up to where it had been hovering ad it was nowhere to be found. I look out into the sky and see the red and green blinking light. They were extremely far and high in the sky. I’d say it was atleast 5 miles away. I don’t understand what type of man made machine could float in complete silence, and travel up to 5 miles away in the time I make a u-turn (15 sec.?) without making even a slight noise.