July 7th UFO Sighting in China

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@ SSC

A counterpoint to the argument you made (that I’m far too lazy to quote) is that life on earth shares sveral basic rules in the layout of our anatomy, and quite frankly the rules make pretty good sense.

An organism that lives in light will probably want some sort of visual organs. Given that eyes have evolved separately on earth several different times, is it so outlandish to assume they would likely have similar structures even on a non earth species? Similar with ears, nose, etc. You probably want the senses close to the front of the body, so as to enable earlier detection of stimuli, and you probably want the central processing area close to the senses…yadda yadda yadda you get it.
So yes they’d be different. That’s a given. But I think we’d see logical differences that still follow the same basic set of rules. If they’ve evolved several different times separately on earth, it seems like we would see some version of it elsewhere.
Yes, sci-fi does it for wholly different reasons but there might be a little truth to it.

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[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]SSC wrote:

Until there’s rock solid evidence, there’s simply no plausible reason to assume that anything ever UFO-related that’s been recorded or documented is more than government ops or testing of new technologies.[/quote]

???

The Roswell Crash had nothing to do with the government testing new equipment.

It’s also interesting to note that there are many governments around the world who have researched UFO sightings and come to different conclusions than the one you made here.[/quote]

Are you sure about the Roswell Crash?

I heard two varying explanations based on recently declassified documents. One was that it was indeed the crash of “weather balloon” - actually a linked system of huge, sophisticated balloons that were meant to spy on the Soviet Union from the stratosphere called Project Mogul. The other recently declassified explanation was that it was indeed a flying saucer crash, but that the saucer in question was an extremely sophisticated experimental long-range nuclear bomber that was saucer-shaped and had a peculiar honeycomb structure. I saw diagrams of the latter and thought - “Holy shit, if they had stuff like this in 1948, just what are they hiding now?”

It’s not that I don’t believe aliens exist. I just think that the weird craft spotted in the skies is military hardware that’s being kept under wraps.

The way I see it, any alien race that has technology sophisticated enough to master interstellar travel (it’s damn near impossible, according to Einstein) could EASILY evade visual or radar detection by us unless they WANTED us to see them.

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[quote]bond james bond wrote:
First alien babe ever recorded…picture smuggled out of Area 51.

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Alien babes like these were one reason I used to hurry home from elementary school to watch Star Trek reruns.

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Even aliens are outsourcing jobs to China… Fuck!!!

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[quote]BobParr wrote:

Are you sure about the Roswell Crash?
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Fairly certain. Far too many eye-witness accounts (some of whom were threatened not to talk about what they saw), of the crash site, of alien bodies, parts of the craft being moved from New Mexico to a handful of other bases to include Wright-Patterson Airforce base, the alleged resting place for wreckage and alien remains. I’m also of the mind that there is something to what General Arthur E. Exon has stated about the aforementioned materials when it arrived at Wright-Patterson.

And if you believe what Stanton Friedman has stated as the conclusions of his research, and I have no reason not to believe him, I think it’s highly unlikely that what crashed in Roswell was a top secret (military) flying machine.

That is part of the problem. The government/military has changed its story several times, not to mention that when this all first occurred, the military officially released a statement saying that what was recovered was a “flying saucer”.

Perhaps, although there are several modern day scientists, to include Stephen Hawking, that claim that interstellar travel could be possible.

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Here’s my paranoid, conspiracy theory opinion on the whole thing – I believe in them and I also believe if they make it here the government covers it up. They are good at explaining away every modern day appearance, aren’t they? I also believe Osama Bin Ladin has been dead for a few years.

I lived in DC for 3 years and with all of the corruption and bullshit, all money based, it changed the way I look at things. The trailer park of the Universe comment was hilarious!

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Any of you guys ever seen one? And yes I DO mean sober lol

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Nope, and I grew up in South Africa and even spent some time in Botswana. I heard reports out there, never saw shit.

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Except for the Star Trek episodes, most non-human looking aliens (like ET) arrive here naked. Why is that? Are there no Bloomingdale’s in space? No gay alien fashion designers??? Sometimes their leader wears a cape, but that’s about it. What’s up with that???

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Yea, it is kinda scary, I mean if you try to put yourself in an ET’s shoes, why would you search for other life? Well if you are an race early in the space exploration phase, Say a little past our own advancement, where interstellar travel is possible but it’s not something you have been doing for a long time, then you may just be explorers and you may find life and study it from afar to gather as much information as possible whithout disturbing the natural balance of the world you are observing.

However, we all know star system die, Planets resources can be consumed and populations can multiply and overwhelm a given system. So there is also a strong chance that a further advanced race would be looking for resources, and the likleyhood that they would be hostile is pretty substantial.

Then again, a race MAY have advanced technologically to the point where they can use energy and resources in some way that is not harmful to thier own system. Say farming asteroids for raw materials and changing the molecular structure of the compounds to suit thier own needs. So a very advanced ET race could just be exploring as well and mean us no harm. Of course, they may also know that thier technology took a long time to develop, and there were lessons learned during the development that are essential to learn otherwise a race may misuse technology. So they may leave us alone as we would be too dangerous if we were allowed to weild advanced technology without learning the lessons they did through development.

In the end, I hope they don’t come here and destroy our planet or enslave humanity, maybe they could just take all the assholes and make them slaves and leave the good people.

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More than likely they are just going to blow us up without much thought to make way for the hyperspace freeway.

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[quote]horsepuss wrote:
Anyone who doesnt believe in aliens or UFO’s is a damn fool.[/quote]

By whose standards?

Ask the majority of biologists and they’ll tell you that alien life is non-probable because of the varying and anomolistic conditions in which evolution happened for the human race.

For instance. My figures may be a bit off, but close enough - But organisms originally all lived in the water for like what, 6 billion years? And only within the last billion years have they somehow evolved into something further - an event in which evolutionists still don’t have concrete reasons for. That’s a LARGE portion of time for simple life to exist and only a short time of having anything further, without any kind of explanation for why or how it happened.

Then, eventually these organisms migrated from water to land because there was too much competition in the seas. This alone could’ve been attributed to fluke genes, or rare characteristics in evolution that allowed life outside water possible.

And what about dinosaurs? Without their extinction, one can safely assume that there would be NO human life on this planet if they had continued existence. We simply wouldn’t be able to match them in the competitive life cycle.

Look, I’m NOT saying alien life doesn’t exist, it might. But if it does, I feel there’s a good chance it’s not evolved enough to make conscious decisions of galactic travel and motives that are human-like. I think most concepts of aliens and the way they operate are, as I’ve said, personified and dramaticized by years of theory and, as Vegita showed, ancient myths about people from the skies or what not.

Everyone wants something beyond their own normal and mundane lives to believe in, and that’s cool, I accept that. Some people have Gods, some have aliens, others have doomsday prophecies. It’s all about personal beliefs.

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I say with almost certainty that other life forms exist, i.e., “aliens”. Look at our sun. Our sun is essentially a star, and think of how many stars that you can see here on Earth. Those are just stars that you can SEE… which basically means there’s a shit ton of stars (and that’s an understatement). Every one of these stars has the chance of having its own solar system, and thus having its own planets orbit around it. This basically gives trillions and trillions of chances for one of these planets to allow a life-form to exist, and I GUARANTEE this life-form will be different in some way to humans. So based on pure statistics here, I can say with 99.9% certainty that aliens exist in some fashion.

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Another video of the UFO: http://www.latimes.com/wghp-story-china-ufo-100716,0,4283795.story

On the subject of UFOs, I think that more are fake than they are real. On this particular UFO, I have no fuckin’ idea if it is real, and neither do you (possibly some governments do).

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This looks pretty cool but unfortunately there is ALWAYS a very boring explanation for these things. I would love if that thing was an alien space ship but we will probably find out soon that it was some missile testing/comet etc.
However through sheer odds there has to be alien life out there, when you calculate the odds of another planet having water & being the right distance from a star in the billions of galaxies then you realise we probably are not alone in the universe.

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[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]horsepuss wrote:
Anyone who doesnt believe in aliens or UFO’s is a damn fool.[/quote]

By whose standards?

Ask the majority of biologists and they’ll tell you that alien life is non-probable because of the varying and anomolistic conditions in which evolution happened for the human race.

For instance. My figures may be a bit off, but close enough - But organisms originally all lived in the water for like what, 6 billion years? And only within the last billion years have they somehow evolved into something further - an event in which evolutionists still don’t have concrete reasons for. That’s a LARGE portion of time for simple life to exist and only a short time of having anything further, without any kind of explanation for why or how it happened.

Then, eventually these organisms migrated from water to land because there was too much competition in the seas. This alone could’ve been attributed to fluke genes, or rare characteristics in evolution that allowed life outside water possible.

And what about dinosaurs? Without their extinction, one can safely assume that there would be NO human life on this planet if they had continued existence. We simply wouldn’t be able to match them in the competitive life cycle.

Look, I’m NOT saying alien life doesn’t exist, it might. But if it does, I feel there’s a good chance it’s not evolved enough to make conscious decisions of galactic travel and motives that are human-like. I think most concepts of aliens and the way they operate are, as I’ve said, personified and dramaticized by years of theory and, as Vegita showed, ancient myths about people from the skies or what not.

Everyone wants something beyond their own normal and mundane lives to believe in, and that’s cool, I accept that. Some people have Gods, some have aliens, others have doomsday prophecies. It’s all about personal beliefs.[/quote]
I can agree with you that many humans have dramatized the idea of aliens, almost as if they are monsters. But one thing: you state that it took 6-7 billion years of humans to develop, and that is a ‘LARGE’ portion of time. That is a long time relative to us, but that may only be a small period of time in how long the actual universe has been around… meaning, almost infinitely more chances for some other life form to develop on another planet, somewhere, sometime.

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[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]horsepuss wrote:
Anyone who doesnt believe in aliens or UFO’s is a damn fool.[/quote]

By whose standards?

Ask the majority of biologists and they’ll tell you that alien life is non-probable because of the varying and anomolistic conditions in which evolution happened for the human race.

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Alien life is alien life regardless of what their capabilities are. If we ever find living organisms outside of our planet, you can be rest assured that intelligent life will or have existed somewhere else.

To me, finding primitive alien life, is just as important as finding another advanced civilisation.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]Vegita wrote:
Yea, it is kinda scary, I mean if you try to put yourself in an ET’s shoes, why would you search for other life? Well if you are an race early in the space exploration phase, Say a little past our own advancement, where interstellar travel is possible but it’s not something you have been doing for a long time, then you may just be explorers and you may find life and study it from afar to gather as much information as possible whithout disturbing the natural balance of the world you are observing.

However, we all know star system die, Planets resources can be consumed and populations can multiply and overwhelm a given system. So there is also a strong chance that a further advanced race would be looking for resources, and the likleyhood that they would be hostile is pretty substantial.

Then again, a race MAY have advanced technologically to the point where they can use energy and resources in some way that is not harmful to thier own system. Say farming asteroids for raw materials and changing the molecular structure of the compounds to suit thier own needs. So a very advanced ET race could just be exploring as well and mean us no harm. Of course, they may also know that thier technology took a long time to develop, and there were lessons learned during the development that are essential to learn otherwise a race may misuse technology. So they may leave us alone as we would be too dangerous if we were allowed to weild advanced technology without learning the lessons they did through development.

In the end, I hope they don’t come here and destroy our planet or enslave humanity, maybe they could just take all the assholes and make them slaves and leave the good people.

V[/quote]

More than likely they are just going to blow us up without much thought to make way for the hyperspace freeway.
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Hahaha… too funny.

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[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
Here’s my paranoid, conspiracy theory opinion on the whole thing – I believe in them and I also believe if they make it here the government covers it up. They are good at explaining away every modern day appearance, aren’t they? I also believe Osama Bin Ladin has been dead for a few years.

I lived in DC for 3 years and with all of the corruption and bullshit, all money based, it changed the way I look at things. The trailer park of the Universe comment was hilarious![/quote]

You’ve watched too much X-Files.

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Except for the Star Trek episodes, most non-human looking aliens (like ET) arrive here naked. Why is that? Are there no Bloomingdale’s in space? No gay alien fashion designers??? Sometimes their leader wears a cape, but that’s about it. What’s up with that???[/quote]

Well, if you watch the Fifth Element, some of the aliens wore high fashion clothing. Then again, that movie was French.

Ever notice that when humans claim to have been taken aboard an alien craft, they invariably experience an anal probing? What’s up with that? I mean, is it possible that our medical diagnostic imaging technology is really that far ahead of theirs?

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[quote]BobParr wrote:

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Except for the Star Trek episodes, most non-human looking aliens (like ET) arrive here naked. Why is that? Are there no Bloomingdale’s in space? No gay alien fashion designers??? Sometimes their leader wears a cape, but that’s about it. What’s up with that???[/quote]

Well, if you watch the Fifth Element, some of the aliens wore high fashion clothing. Then again, that movie was French.

Ever notice that when humans claim to have been taken aboard an alien craft, they invariably experience an anal probing? What’s up with that? I mean, is it possible that our medical diagnostic imaging technology is really that far ahead of theirs?[/quote]

No, aliens are just ass freaks.