[quote]litlghost wrote:
I don’t think you really watched those videos closely. The first one is a BJJ comp and the second one also looks to be a BJJ guy, Judoka aren’t allowed to wear patches on their gi.
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Also, just to point out something people frequently overlook and gloss over is : BJJ is simply Judo. Japanese Jujutsu is based on fighting with weapons. A BJJ comp is basically a judo comp - adding patches does not change the techniques used. Helio Gracie had no real training in Jujutsu, he was a Judo blackbelt - he simply called it Jujutsu - its not really Jujutsu… its just Judo… with patches.
But Judo can be very effective. Watch the Youtube video of Helio Gracie versus the Judoka Kimura as Kimura throws Gracie dozens of times, chokes him unconscious and then breaks his arm in two places with the Kimura arm lock - Helio was a tough S.O.B not to tap out, very tough, very full of ego, good for competition Judo - and he was lucky the mat was like a sleeping mattress or Kimura’s throws would have cracked his skull.
[quote]Ciz wrote:
I am training at the Kodokan at the moment. I know you do not need to enter any competitions within your first few months of starting. [/quote]
That is cool. Your avatar area lists you as living in Australia. How long have you lived in Japan?
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
Zack Nelson wrote:
borrek wrote:
I did get hurt in judo, but it was my own fault and by bad technique during a throw in a tournament. I’ve taken a thousand falls (with thousands more to come) and have never once been injured by a fall.
The thing about judo is that your training partners are all there to make sure you’re safe. If injury happens, it is 90% of the time in shiai (tournament fighting) where you are throwing without much concern for your partner.
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Borrek proves my point - his one injury occured in a competition. In practice he was never hurt. If an injury does happen it happens 90% of the time in tournament/sport competition.
USJA and other judo groups push push push push competition.
If the OP wants to learn for self defense and is not interested in sport - than I am sticking by my initial assertion : find a school low in ego.
How do you expect someone to learn if they never test themselves in competition? I would much rather get injured in the safe environment of a judo competition than be so deluded about my own abilities that I suffer more severe injuries in a self defense situation. Judo is tough. So is wrestling. So is boxing. You don’t learn to defend yourself by punching air or throwing compliant hippies by their wrist.[/quote]
I agree X 6. But most people go through life without ever having to defend themselves. And many do not enjoy contact sports. I loved Jujutsu, kickboxing and wrestling - and competed in the latter two. But there is a chance of injury with both. I tore some ligaments in the right side of my jaw from a roundkick to the left side of my jaw, that I sustained during a kickboxing competition in Ohio. I feel it is irresponsible to seduce someone into kickboxing by implying injuries are not likely or cannot happen. Most people have no need to defend themselves physically in their life - and so if they do not enjoy it, and do not want to risk injury that is OK. Its not for everyone. But you are right - nothing replaces real contact. I did it for decades.
[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
If you do start judo make sure to STOP BENCHING IMMEDIATELY. The key to success in judo is making your chest as weak as possible. Fighting Irish will back me up on this one. [/quote]
why is the key to judo having a weak chest?
[quote]SuperSaiyan13 wrote:
why is the key to judo having a weak chest?[/quote]
This was a joke about another thread that was around when this thread first started, and also a joke generally about a topic that comes up now and again, about whether the bench press is useful/useless for martial artists/combat sports athletes.
Funnily enough, in a basic escape from a variation of kesa-gatame, our sensei tells us to “bench press them away”.