[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Yeah and who gives a crap if they hung these two terrorists or not? They were already on death row, the woman in particular for being part of an attack on a Jordanian hotel which killed 60 people. Shit, in my hometown there’s a guy who’s been on death row since the late 80’s and the crimes he committed against a small unarmed child would make for a good horror film but no one has the balls to end his life and he’s still alive almost thirty years later.
These ISIS terrorists are scum and should be treated as such. They cry when we bomb their “women and children” and yet showed a video of a little kid executing some Russians. If that’s the case, well your women and children are fair game. They burned this pilot alive and, as far as executing the two terrorists, sure it was an emotional response, sure it was a gut reaction and total revenge, but that’s the kind of thing ISIS understands, so I say go for it. After all Mohammad said attack your enemy the way they attack you, and finally, someone’s had the freaking balls to do it.[/quote]
The essence of democracy and Western idealism, universal freedom, is such that all lives are to be respected on a basic, fundamental level. This shouldn’t change even if the other guy commits something horrible.[/quote]
LMAO
That’s some funny shit right there. Life is cheap - history has shown this. You can debate all the morality you want, but at the end of the day people will act in their own self interest.
The reason we are the target of these animals is PRECISELY the idealistic bullshit you just vomited on to the forum: They know they can do WHATEVER the fuck they want, and we don’t have the spine to do SHIT about it…
Until we come to the realization that the ONLY thing these terrorists will respect is GREATER FORCE and making their actions MORE PAINFUL to them than it is to us, we will continue to lose.
But I don’t expect a peace-loving, tree-hugging liberal to understand that. Maybe if we sent our troops to go hand out more candy to the children they’d change their mind? /sarcasm[/quote]
The thing is there is a balancing act since we are dealing with Islam. End of the day we have to be careful of our actions because our involvement and actions are things that swell the ranks of ISIS depending on how we conduct ourselves.
[/quote]I think that would be a good thing. Here’s why: muslims fall on a spectrum ranging from fucking crazy to almost secular. The problem is that they all blend in together. If we can draw out the crazy ones, we would then have a perfectly good reason to kill them, making the world a more peaceful place.[quote]
Every time we kill a kid or woman, be it them putting children and women in buildings they know we will bomb or not, is a recruitment opportunity for them, and it will bring sympathy from Muslims be them Shia or Sunni in the form of funding as well as people willing to lay their lives down. We are fighting a propaganda machine as well as a terrorist group among groups that are pretty much animals as it is.
[/quote]This probably won’t go over very well, but here goes: every time we kill a woman or a kid over there, we kill a potential future terrorist. Again, if we draw them out of the woodwork, then we can isolate the crazy ones and kill them. Also, if we were to retaliate against the population that gives these animals aid, comfort and shelter, they would probably be less inclined to do that if there were an actual CONSEQUENCE for those actions. Make no mistake: the people that SUPPORT terrorists are JUST AS GUILTY as the the assholes doing the killing. I nee NO DIFFERENCE. They all need to be “discouraged” from that behavior.[quote]
When all is said and done, there are a lot of Sunni’s who give a shit what happens to Shiites and would gladly see them kill one another on some kind of Shia civil war, there are also Sunni’s who are sympathetic to ISIS cause and are super wealthy and have already donated lots of money to them. We will eventually find out how much of this funding is coming from the Saudi’s, some day… I hope it finally comes out, and whether the royal family is involved (which is fucking massive).
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Don’t get me started on that shit. I mean we SANCTION Russia for it’s activities against a NON NATO member, but with the Saudi’s (and other countries over there), we bend over and kiss their fucking ass when half of their “royal family” is funding terrorists. Our “allies” over there are actively funding terrorist, but we turn a blind eye to it. It’s fucking BULLSHIT. I mean right after 9/11, we evacuated the FAMILY MEMBERS of OBL without so much as a fucking question!