What are you talking about I just addressed the link![/quote]
Nope, you didn’t even read the preface
[quote] The reason that it finds Euro VC rates higher is because Europe class far more crimes in the VC category, which means Europe actually counts more than five violent actions as violent crime. Which means the hundreds and thousands of violent crimes that happen in the U.S do not go down as VC.
If the U.S had the same way of collecting VC statistics it would blow Europe’s numbers out of the water. Refusing to acknowledge this is textbook cognitive dissonance.
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lol, after you actually read the preface, PREFACE, you’ll sure feel dumb typing this, lmao.
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The way of collecting data through questionnaires and public polling was standardised, not the way the country differently collect crime statistics.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
LOL about ANOTHER European who knows what’s really “best” for America in terms of violence and gun control. They always want us to be more like them. “Them” being, collectively, the bunch responsible for more sheer numbers of murdered human beings than any other group of people since the dawn of time – the group of folks who’ve done more disarming of its populace and then more subsequent murdering of that populace.
You’ve just gotta trust 'em this time. This time they disarm once again but won’t begin the murdering once again. Sure thing.
And if only we Muricans would see the light. If only.
What is likely to happen again, if history repeats itself, is one day in the not too distant future more earnest pleas of America, please rescue us, we have fucked up again and are killing ourselves just like we always do. Then John W Murica will have to saddle up, ride across the Atlantic or Pacific and dispatch more tyrants on the behalf of a bunch of dildos who wanted us to be just like them.[/quote]
What, I don’t care what America does as far as guns are concerned.
What are you talking about I just addressed the link![/quote]
Nope, you didn’t even read the preface
[quote] The reason that it finds Euro VC rates higher is because Europe class far more crimes in the VC category, which means Europe actually counts more than five violent actions as violent crime. Which means the hundreds and thousands of violent crimes that happen in the U.S do not go down as VC.
If the U.S had the same way of collecting VC statistics it would blow Europe’s numbers out of the water. Refusing to acknowledge this is textbook cognitive dissonance.
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lol, after you actually read the preface, PREFACE, you’ll sure feel dumb typing this, lmao.
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The way of collecting data through questionnaires and public polling was standardised, not the way the country differently collect crime statistics.[/quote]
You can’t be this fucking stupid and be able to sign on to the internet… You can’t be.
EDIT: that’s harsh. I should have said: You obviously didn’t read the preface…
What is likely to happen again, if history repeats itself, [/quote]
I’d say that “if” is a “when”. I paid for my own school and wasn’t really taught enough history. I can only imagine how shitty the history is in “free schools”.
But you know, he lead this whole nonsense with “better literacy rates”… lmao… Like Americans read at an 80% clip or something. He’s got to be trolling at this point. Or just another 23 year old that has the world figured out.
I paid for my own school and wasn’t really taught enough history. I can only imagine how shitty the history is in “free schools”.
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Considering how your imagination has been working on subjects you know nothing about, perhaps it is best for you not to do so.
Anyone who knows Jack Shit knows Europe is much safer and Europeans are as a whole way more cultured than than muricans, but you don’t know Jack Shit, do you? You have your head so far up your ass you barely heard about him (Jack).
I don’t know why that Musashi dude even bothers. Obama is FAR LEFT…roflmao. It’s like Fox news dropped a nuke of cliches up in this joint.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
LOL about ANOTHER European who knows what’s really “best” for America in terms of violence and gun control. They always want us to be more like them. “Them” being, collectively, the bunch responsible for more sheer numbers of murdered human beings than any other group of people since the dawn of time – the group of folks who’ve done more disarming of its populace and then more subsequent murdering of that populace.
You’ve just gotta trust 'em this time. This time they disarm once again but won’t begin the murdering once again. Sure thing.
And if only we Muricans would see the light. If only.
What is likely to happen again, if history repeats itself, is one day in the not too distant future more earnest pleas of America, please rescue us, we have fucked up again and are killing ourselves just like we always do. Then John W Murica will have to saddle up, ride across the Atlantic or Pacific and dispatch more tyrants on the behalf of a bunch of dildos who wanted us to be just like them.[/quote]
What, I don’t care what America does as far as guns are concerned.
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Huh, I’ve read several posts of your “caring.” You’re the one that brought it up. Why mention it if you don’t care?
Suggestion: if you don’t want your ass whipped further on this subject, and I mean thoroughly beaten, redirect your posts to something in which you might have some intelligent reasoning and the facts to back it up. You got no bizness in this arena unless you’re masochistic.
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This whole European thing started because I asserted that to most of the world Obama would not be considered left wing, the democrats being more right than lots of the conservative parties. Counting beans then went on a rant about how Europeans are fucking stupid and are slaves without guns etc.
Yet it is me who cares about America. How interesting you took it that way.
This whole European thing started because I asserted that to most of the world Obama would not be considered left wing, the democrats being more right than lots of the conservative parties. Counting beans then went on a rant about how Europeans are fucking stupid and are slaves without guns etc.
Yet it is me who cares about America. How interesting you took it that way.[/quote]
Ah look, the disingenuous continues.
I said, no one cares what the rest of the world thinks about Obama. Per-American perspective, the only one that matters when judging which side of the fence a sitting POTUS is on, he is left, as is a vast majority of our elected officials, including many republicans.
Then, I called Europeans dumb for asking ot be disarmed.
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Not taking sides. I just happened to see this:
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Yes, indeed. I finished reading the New Yorker article earlier and was wondering when it would crop up here!
My argument remains the same, though. (Big surprise, right?) I don’t deny that Libya is a mess. I don’t deny that it’s broken up and ripe for ISIS’ picking. I simply think that it would be a greater mess, more broken up, and riper for ISIS’ picking if the 2011 war had gone on without our intervention. Notice, for example, that Vox’s “one paragraph” cites, as evidence of Libya’s being chaotic, the fact that “some three thousand people have been killed by fighting in the past year.” This number is, of course, not a good one, and certainly a marker of chaos. But it’s much smaller than that achieved by the 2011 war. The question I’m concerned with is this: Had that conflict gone on without intervention, what would we be talking about now? Three thousand, or another thirty thousand? Would ISIS be slithering in, as it is now, or would ISIS (or something like it) have flourished, home-grown, during a years-long and intense civil war in Libya as it did in Iraq and Syria.
Basically, my contention is that, other things being equal, it is in our best interest to decide or diffuse Middle Eastern wars as quickly as possible.