Jewish Dance Group Stoned in Hanover, Germany

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Carl_ wrote:

Anyone not aggravated by this?

Criticism of Israel cannot automatically be perceived as Antisemitism, for sure. Endlessly pursuing that angle will ultimately end up hurting Israel itself.

But how can one not support basic (historical) Zionisism after this?[/quote]
It’s almost like being shot by friendly fire. Jews tear open the borders of sovereign nations and allow a mudslide of non-white immigrants including hostile muslims. Too bad some of their own are going to get hurt in the process.

Radical muslims cannot hurt us unless we let them in. 12 youths died in a train accident in Spain yesterday, trying to cross the rails. That’s probably more deaths than radical islam has accounted for in South Europe, East (unless, perhaps, Chechen-Russia conflict counts) or the West for many years.

As for Israel, Israel does not protect and lobby for us but only for its own self, and uses other countries as proxies. Even if we assume that Israel’s existence is just, there is no need to get worked up about it like the cons do. It’s just one conflict and licking jewish sack at every opportunity like american cons do is traitorous at worst and futile at best.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

The Israeli-Philistine (root word for Palestine) conflict goes clear back to the 12th century B.C.

Read the stories of Samson, Samuel, Saul and David.

Reading and knowing your Bible, even if in the Norwegian language, will help make you into well-rounded, insightful young men worthy of consideration here in the hallowed halls of TN PWI.[/quote]

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They should still go back to Germany.

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[quote]Carl_ wrote:

Anyone not aggravated by this?

Criticism of Israel cannot automatically be perceived as Antisemitism, for sure. Endlessly pursuing that angle will ultimately end up hurting Israel itself.

But how can one not support basic (historical) Zionisism after this?[/quote]

Unsurprisingly, the “youths” were Turkish and Syrian immigrants.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
History lesson for the Norwegians:

The Israeli-Philistine (root word for Palestine) conflict goes clear back to the 12th century B.C.

Read the stories of Samson, Samuel, Saul and David.

Reading and knowing your Bible, even if in the Norwegian language, will help make you into well-rounded, insightful young men worthy of consideration here in the hallowed halls of TN PWI.[/quote]

The arabs would have you believe that they are the Philistenes, but that’s incorrect.

What are called “palenstinians” (root word, indeed from Philistene) are just arab immigrants from Jordan, Syria, and Eqypt.

The Biblical Philistense were actually proto-Greek, probably from the island of Crete. History records them (known as “the sea people” to the Egyptians) as being notorious sea-raiders who were best known for early mastery of iron ore in the Bronze Age. They tore up the whole Mediterranean — think southern Vikings.

They left long before the Romans got there, and settled back in Greece.

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
…the tension between muslims and jews in palestina, started when north-europeen jews started to settle there in the end of the 1800`s. and it became a a shitfest when UN decleared big parts of the palestinian area israely in 1948. before this misrahim jews and muslim lived side by side in palestina. [/quote]

Yes, this would be what is called the current phase of this millenia long struggle.

This conflict is very unique because of its longevity and its many phases. I don’t think any other conflict on the face of the earth can match it. You think it’s irrelevant. I don’t. In addition, I think it’s fascinating.

It’s relevant because one must know that prior to the 1800s - clear back to 1300 B.C. - the Jews inhabited the region AND THUS when the late 1800s rolled around the legitimacy of Jewish claims was considered WHICH THEREBY ushered us into “the current phase” of the conflict.

Why do you struggle so hard to connect these dots?
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Ok I admit that I did thougt it trough back there. obviously do both jews and muslims use history to defend the inhumane actions against eachother. so in that sense there are a connection.

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Moral equivocation is for idiots.

Jewish people have seldom, if ever, been the aggressor. Defending yourself, over and over, from sadistic killers does not make you guilty like the killers.

Arab muslims live peacefully in Israel (Israel is 20% arab.) I served with arabs in the IDF. I had drunken fraternity times with arabs. Some of my law partners are arabs.

The distinction between the arabs who occupy the West Bank and Gaza and Israeli arabs is the Gazan/West Bank arabs refuse to live among Jewish people. They want a “Judenfree” land — all Jews expelled or dead.

There’s no middle ground there.

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[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]Carl_ wrote:

Anyone not aggravated by this?

Criticism of Israel cannot automatically be perceived as Antisemitism, for sure. Endlessly pursuing that angle will ultimately end up hurting Israel itself.

But how can one not support basic (historical) Zionisism after this?[/quote]
It’s almost like being shot by friendly fire. Jews tear open the borders of sovereign nations and allow a mudslide of non-white immigrants including hostile muslims. Too bad some of their own are going to get hurt in the process.

Radical muslims cannot hurt us unless we let them in. 12 youths died in a train accident in Spain yesterday, trying to cross the rails. That’s probably more deaths than radical islam has accounted for in South Europe, East (unless, perhaps, Chechen-Russia conflict counts) or the West for many years.

As for Israel, Israel does not protect and lobby for us but only for its own self, and uses other countries as proxies. Even if we assume that Israel’s existence is just, there is no need to get worked up about it like the cons do. It’s just one conflict and licking jewish sack at every opportunity like american cons do is traitorous at worst and futile at best.[/quote]

Jews didn’t “tear apart the borders of soverign nations”

The immigrants in the EU are Turks and the like. Few, if any, arabs from Gaza or the West Bank.

You have those immigrants because you are socialists and don’t have babies. As a result, you imported muslims to do work.

And now they are staying and having babies.

Soon, you will be in camps because once they have the upper hand, they will kill you.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]Carl_ wrote:

Anyone not aggravated by this?

Criticism of Israel cannot automatically be perceived as Antisemitism, for sure. Endlessly pursuing that angle will ultimately end up hurting Israel itself.

But how can one not support basic (historical) Zionisism after this?[/quote]
It’s almost like being shot by friendly fire. Jews tear open the borders of sovereign nations and allow a mudslide of non-white immigrants including hostile muslims. Too bad some of their own are going to get hurt in the process.

Radical muslims cannot hurt us unless we let them in. 12 youths died in a train accident in Spain yesterday, trying to cross the rails. That’s probably more deaths than radical islam has accounted for in South Europe, East (unless, perhaps, Chechen-Russia conflict counts) or the West for many years.

As for Israel, Israel does not protect and lobby for us but only for its own self, and uses other countries as proxies. Even if we assume that Israel’s existence is just, there is no need to get worked up about it like the cons do. It’s just one conflict and licking jewish sack at every opportunity like american cons do is traitorous at worst and futile at best.[/quote]

Jews didn’t “tear apart the borders of soverign nations”

The immigrants in the EU are Turks and the like. Few, if any, arabs from Gaza or the West Bank.

You have those immigrants because you are socialists and don’t have babies. As a result, you imported muslims to do work.

And now they are staying and having babies.

Soon, you will be in camps because once they have the upper hand, they will kill you.[/quote]

Come on JewBacca. Muslims are peace loving people, who only want to live in harmony with their infidel, socialist, brothers.

Oh who am I kidding?

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[quote]florelius wrote:
those people are racist. there are racist jew haters over hear to, but luckily the are few here in norway, so I have not met one face to face. but sadly is alot of racist muslim haters and old-fashioned negroe haters here, they are so many that I have met to many of them. I would say anti-muslims are the biggest problem in my country. If we get a fascist coup over here, its not the jews that are being sent to camps, itt will be muslims, blacks and commies like me.[/quote]

LOL - you’re not a racist for hating muslims . . . they are not a race, they are a religion . . .

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Amazing how one incident of stone throwing receives so much international media attention. I would conclude from that that the 120k jews in Germany are safer then they would be in Israel…

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And in the 60s blacks in the south would have been safer in the north, so they shouldn’t have moved north?

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Random Germany/Austria story.

About 20+ years ago, I was attached to an IAF (Israel air force, although I was a ground pounder) as we trained with some NATO folks in then-West Germany. We were in full Israel uniforms and ended up on leave in Munich.

Well, we decided to go drink beer at the beer hall where Hitler had his big speech that kicked the thing off – not sure why this was a good idea, but it was at the time.

Well, that particular beer hall was blown up or burned down, but there was a replacement one down the street, so we went there – the kind of place where they have beer mugs that great granpa used locked up.

Well, we sat down (about 16 of us) at a big table and proceeded to drink, eat soft pretzels, drink good beer and listen to an oompah-band.

Got a few stares.

After a couple hours, an old German guy, clearly “of the age” to have been in WWII was assisted to our table by what looked to be a daughter or maybe a daughter-in-law or nurse.

He was crying. He saluted us (good, crisp, proper salute), and then hobbled off.

We went to pay our tab, and someone had paid it.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Random Germany/Austria story.

About 20+ years ago, I was attached to an IAF (Israel air force, although I was a ground pounder) as we trained with some NATO folks in then-West Germany. We were in full Israel uniforms and ended up on leave in Munich.

Well, we decided to go drink beer at the beer hall where Hitler had his big speech that kicked the thing off – not sure why this was a good idea, but it was at the time.

Well, that particular beer hall was blown up or burned down, but there was a replacement one down the street, so we went there – the kind of place where they have beer mugs that great granpa used locked up.

Well, we sat down (about 16 of us) at a big table and proceeded to drink, eat soft pretzels, drink good beer and listen to an oompah-band.

Got a few stares.

After a couple hours, an old German guy, clearly “of the age” to have been in WWII was assisted to our table by what looked to be a daughter or maybe a daughter-in-law or nurse.

He was crying. He saluted us (good, crisp, proper salute), and then hobbled off.

We went to pay our tab, and someone had paid it.[/quote]

It is obvious some people on this planet are sorry about what happen, unlike our muslim friends that continue to deny that it happened.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Random Germany/Austria story.

About 20+ years ago, I was attached to an IAF (Israel air force, although I was a ground pounder) as we trained with some NATO folks in then-West Germany. We were in full Israel uniforms and ended up on leave in Munich.

Well, we decided to go drink beer at the beer hall where Hitler had his big speech that kicked the thing off – not sure why this was a good idea, but it was at the time.

Well, that particular beer hall was blown up or burned down, but there was a replacement one down the street, so we went there – the kind of place where they have beer mugs that great granpa used locked up.

Well, we sat down (about 16 of us) at a big table and proceeded to drink, eat soft pretzels, drink good beer and listen to an oompah-band.

Got a few stares.

After a couple hours, an old German guy, clearly “of the age” to have been in WWII was assisted to our table by what looked to be a daughter or maybe a daughter-in-law or nurse.

He was crying. He saluted us (good, crisp, proper salute), and then hobbled off.

We went to pay our tab, and someone had paid it.[/quote]

liar. This story is untrue. I’ve been to the hofbrauhaus in Cincinnati and the German beer was not good beer.

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^ - El Duce - that was so wrong . . .LMAO!!

Jewbacca - thanks again for another great and poignant tale!

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[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
those people are racist. there are racist jew haters over hear to, but luckily the are few here in norway, so I have not met one face to face. but sadly is alot of racist muslim haters and old-fashioned negroe haters here, they are so many that I have met to many of them. I would say anti-muslims are the biggest problem in my country. If we get a fascist coup over here, its not the jews that are being sent to camps, itt will be muslims, blacks and commies like me.[/quote]

LOL - you’re not a racist for hating muslims . . . they are not a race, they are a religion . . . [/quote]

ok, if a person hates people for theire religion only, they are not racist, but they still hate a group. its very similar. but many jew-haters or muslim-haters are also racist, they often also hates blacks, non-white immigrants and commies( I know commies are no race btw ).

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[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
those people are racist. there are racist jew haters over hear to, but luckily the are few here in norway, so I have not met one face to face. but sadly is alot of racist muslim haters and old-fashioned negroe haters here, they are so many that I have met to many of them. I would say anti-muslims are the biggest problem in my country. If we get a fascist coup over here, its not the jews that are being sent to camps, itt will be muslims, blacks and commies like me.[/quote]

LOL - you’re not a racist for hating muslims . . . they are not a race, they are a religion . . . [/quote]

ok, if a person hates people for theire religion only, they are not racist, but they still hate a group. its very similar. but many jew-haters or muslim-haters are also racist, they often also hates blacks, non-white immigrants and commies( I know commies are no race btw ). [/quote]

LOL - got any stats for those assumptions?

One other point of contention - there is only one race - human. Skin tone/melanonin levels are not a race, they are a genetic/physical trait. People are not hated because of the level of their melatonin, but because of the culture and values (regardless of sterotypes, accuracy, etc) that they represent. For instance, the communist labor unions of the late 19th, early 20th century hated blacks and chinese and refused to let them join their unions. Why did they hate blacks and chinese? Becuase they came from a hardworking, willing to accept lower pay culture that threatened the financial security of the communist whites. Their culture was deemed a threat by the communists and so they were beat, forced out of jobs, and generally mistreated by the communist labor unions.

The same thing happened in the democratic south. Blacks were seen as a cultural threat to the political dominance and security of the Democrat party in the south because they tended to vote republican in overwhleming numbers. So for years (1880’s thru the 1960’s) the Democrats actively tried to stomp out any black political organizations, civil rights groups, and republican voting blocks to prevent the blacks from threatening their political power.

Being from the South, I have watched the most amazing transformation in history as the party of slavery and the KKK was able via media assistance and poor public education to convince blacks that the Democrats were actually there to help them - and what has years of liberal Democrat “help” acheived for the black population of America? poorer education levels, deeper poverty, less property ownership, less voice in the politicla process - in short, the Democrats have re-enslaved the black population.

Flo, you have a warped view of the issue - hating muslims for what they do and have always done in the name of their religion is not even closely related to hating someone who has black skin. You will find that those who actually love blacks the most are on the right - not the left. We wnat them to succeed, to get an education, to run for office, to own businesses and property, to have the power to determine their own futures! Did you know that the majority of the founding officers of the Republican party were black?

We in America do not hate “non-white immigrants” - we love immigrants - we hate people who break the law! I am the offspring of non-white immigrants as are many if not most of those you will find on the right here in the US. We love immigration, we want everyone who can get here to get here and join us in the grandest country in the world. We just want you to do in a lawful and orderly manner. Respect us, respect our ways, respect our borders, respect our laws - join us! if not, we don’t want you here.

You once oversimplify and use incorrect generalizations . . .

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[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
those people are racist. there are racist jew haters over hear to, but luckily the are few here in norway, so I have not met one face to face. but sadly is alot of racist muslim haters and old-fashioned negroe haters here, they are so many that I have met to many of them. I would say anti-muslims are the biggest problem in my country. If we get a fascist coup over here, its not the jews that are being sent to camps, itt will be muslims, blacks and commies like me.[/quote]

LOL - you’re not a racist for hating muslims . . . they are not a race, they are a religion . . . [/quote]

ok, if a person hates people for theire religion only, they are not racist, but they still hate a group. its very similar. but many jew-haters or muslim-haters are also racist, they often also hates blacks, non-white immigrants and commies( I know commies are no race btw ). [/quote]

LOL - got any stats for those assumptions?

One other point of contention - there is only one race - human. Skin tone/melanonin levels are not a race, they are a genetic/physical trait. People are not hated because of the level of their melatonin, but because of the culture and values (regardless of sterotypes, accuracy, etc) that they represent. For instance, the communist labor unions of the late 19th, early 20th century hated blacks and chinese and refused to let them join their unions. Why did they hate blacks and chinese? Becuase they came from a hardworking, willing to accept lower pay culture that threatened the financial security of the communist whites. Their culture was deemed a threat by the communists and so they were beat, forced out of jobs, and generally mistreated by the communist labor unions.

The same thing happened in the democratic south. Blacks were seen as a cultural threat to the political dominance and security of the Democrat party in the south because they tended to vote republican in overwhleming numbers. So for years (1880’s thru the 1960’s) the Democrats actively tried to stomp out any black political organizations, civil rights groups, and republican voting blocks to prevent the blacks from threatening their political power.

Being from the South, I have watched the most amazing transformation in history as the party of slavery and the KKK was able via media assistance and poor public education to convince blacks that the Democrats were actually there to help them - and what has years of liberal Democrat “help” acheived for the black population of America? poorer education levels, deeper poverty, less property ownership, less voice in the politicla process - in short, the Democrats have re-enslaved the black population.

Flo, you have a warped view of the issue - hating muslims for what they do and have always done in the name of their religion is not even closely related to hating someone who has black skin. You will find that those who actually love blacks the most are on the right - not the left. We wnat them to succeed, to get an education, to run for office, to own businesses and property, to have the power to determine their own futures! Did you know that the majority of the founding officers of the Republican party were black?

We in America do not hate “non-white immigrants” - we love immigrants - we hate people who break the law! I am the offspring of non-white immigrants as are many if not most of those you will find on the right here in the US. We love immigration, we want everyone who can get here to get here and join us in the grandest country in the world. We just want you to do in a lawful and orderly manner. Respect us, respect our ways, respect our borders, respect our laws - join us! if not, we don’t want you here.

You once oversimplify and use incorrect generalizations . . .

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Wow. Contemporary history has it that muslims have greatly contributed to civilization in various fields. And then there is the trading between US and arab states which is only growing in importance. How can you excuse the behaviour of blacks by referring to their liberal handlers but not allow the same excuse to be used by muslim apologists? If you replaced the blacks of America with the arab muslims from anywhere in the world, the productivity and safety of America would only improve. Some of them might even show cracks in their religious upbringing like the conservative christian porn addicts.

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[quote]Alffi wrote:

[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:

[quote]IrishSteel wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
those people are racist. there are racist jew haters over hear to, but luckily the are few here in norway, so I have not met one face to face. but sadly is alot of racist muslim haters and old-fashioned negroe haters here, they are so many that I have met to many of them. I would say anti-muslims are the biggest problem in my country. If we get a fascist coup over here, its not the jews that are being sent to camps, itt will be muslims, blacks and commies like me.[/quote]

LOL - you’re not a racist for hating muslims . . . they are not a race, they are a religion . . . [/quote]

ok, if a person hates people for theire religion only, they are not racist, but they still hate a group. its very similar. but many jew-haters or muslim-haters are also racist, they often also hates blacks, non-white immigrants and commies( I know commies are no race btw ). [/quote]

LOL - got any stats for those assumptions?

One other point of contention - there is only one race - human. Skin tone/melanonin levels are not a race, they are a genetic/physical trait. People are not hated because of the level of their melatonin, but because of the culture and values (regardless of sterotypes, accuracy, etc) that they represent. For instance, the communist labor unions of the late 19th, early 20th century hated blacks and chinese and refused to let them join their unions. Why did they hate blacks and chinese? Becuase they came from a hardworking, willing to accept lower pay culture that threatened the financial security of the communist whites. Their culture was deemed a threat by the communists and so they were beat, forced out of jobs, and generally mistreated by the communist labor unions.

The same thing happened in the democratic south. Blacks were seen as a cultural threat to the political dominance and security of the Democrat party in the south because they tended to vote republican in overwhleming numbers. So for years (1880’s thru the 1960’s) the Democrats actively tried to stomp out any black political organizations, civil rights groups, and republican voting blocks to prevent the blacks from threatening their political power.

Being from the South, I have watched the most amazing transformation in history as the party of slavery and the KKK was able via media assistance and poor public education to convince blacks that the Democrats were actually there to help them - and what has years of liberal Democrat “help” acheived for the black population of America? poorer education levels, deeper poverty, less property ownership, less voice in the politicla process - in short, the Democrats have re-enslaved the black population.

Flo, you have a warped view of the issue - hating muslims for what they do and have always done in the name of their religion is not even closely related to hating someone who has black skin. You will find that those who actually love blacks the most are on the right - not the left. We wnat them to succeed, to get an education, to run for office, to own businesses and property, to have the power to determine their own futures! Did you know that the majority of the founding officers of the Republican party were black?

We in America do not hate “non-white immigrants” - we love immigrants - we hate people who break the law! I am the offspring of non-white immigrants as are many if not most of those you will find on the right here in the US. We love immigration, we want everyone who can get here to get here and join us in the grandest country in the world. We just want you to do in a lawful and orderly manner. Respect us, respect our ways, respect our borders, respect our laws - join us! if not, we don’t want you here.

You once oversimplify and use incorrect generalizations . . .

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Wow. Contemporary history has it that muslims have greatly contributed to civilization in various fields. And then there is the trading between US and arab states which is only growing in importance.
[/quote]
LOL, wat?

excuse behavior? Did we read the same post?

wait, who’s racist?

[quote]

Some of them might even show cracks in their religious upbringing like the conservative christian porn addicts.[/quote]

and another what?

Have you been drinking?