Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster
Come on Man! Dez Bryant a bad pick at #24 in the draft? I find that funny
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Name one on the Patriots?
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Name one on the Patriots?[/quote]
Huh? Yes, the Patriots would take Dez Bryant on their roster.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Come on Man! Dez Bryant a bad pick at #24 in the draft? I find that funny[/quote]
Bryant has not earned the check he was given a single season he has been in the league. The only reason that he behaved this year was because Jordan is pulling his strings now and he knows that he will cut ties with the first sign of trouble.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Name one on the Patriots?[/quote]
Huh? Yes, the Patriots would take Dez Bryant on their roster.[/quote]
Sorry, Misread, thought you said I could name 31 other teams with a Dez Bryant on their team. By that I took player with potential but hugely overpaid.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
[/quote]
Oh I don’t think The Cowboy’s have the most talented lines in the NFL, I think the Cowboy’s have the most talented team. A possible most talented left tackle though.
Frerick in my opinion ia a great addition. Exactly what we needed. And yes nobody had him on their radar…The beauty of Jerry(and his staff)
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Agreed, actually never had a problem with this pick.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
[/quote]
Oh I don’t think The Cowboy’s have the most talented lines in the NFL, I think the Cowboy’s have the most talented team. A possible most talented left tackle though.
Frerick in my opinion ia a great addition. Exactly what we needed. And yes nobody had him on their radar…The beauty of Jerry(and his staff) [/quote]
If no one had him on their radar, a good management team would have taken him with a second round pick. Over-drafting, the beauty of Jerry(and his staff).
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Name one on the Patriots?[/quote]
Huh? Yes, the Patriots would take Dez Bryant on their roster.[/quote]
Sorry, Misread, thought you said I could name 31 other teams with a Dez Bryant on their team. By that I took player with potential but hugely overpaid. [/quote]
No problem man. I don’t think Dez is averpaid. He is paid the same as other players at that position and that draft position. Miles Austin might be overpaid right now(suprised he wasn’t brought up) because he can’t stay on the field. But, Dez is far from overpaid. It’s a fact…It’s science
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
[/quote]
Oh I don’t think The Cowboy’s have the most talented lines in the NFL, I think the Cowboy’s have the most talented team. A possible most talented left tackle though.
Frerick in my opinion ia a great addition. Exactly what we needed. And yes nobody had him on their radar…The beauty of Jerry(and his staff) [/quote]
That is not the beauty, he could have got him in the second or third round and shored up the Dline in the first and second.
He is an awesome marketing and money making machine, he is not a builder of a football team.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I know you are a Cowboy fan, but I disagree.
On the Cowboy’s current roster I believe The Cowboy’s have one of, if not the most talented teams in the NFL.[/quote]
The Cowboys are one of those teams with a lot of flash and little substance. That’s why they will never win a championship as long a Jones is calling the shots. He gets hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect of picking out money players and that doesn’t work with a salary cap. The other players left to fill in the gaps are sub par and the stars he signs (most of them are also questionable) cant make up for that. He won championships when the salary cap was a non-issue and he could buy a team (he did win one the year after its introduction). [/quote]
Jerry used to get hung up on the “Oooo… Shiny” aspect a little, but Garret is helping change that in his own way. The Cowboy’s have been drafting ‘The Right’ type of guys the past couple of years.
They used our fisrt draft choice on a center for God’s sake. That isnt a very ‘shiny’ choice. And, if you know anything about the current team you know it was a good choice, might even be a great one.[/quote]
While I am not sure I with you on how much Jones listens to Garrett (he doesn’t), Am I understanding you correctly that you are saying Jones would still be hung up on the shiny players were it not for Garrett which would ultimately make Jones responsible for your teams decade plus of mediocrity? Not exactly great owner material then is he?[/quote]
What I believe is that Jerry goes for a winning team and yes he liked high profile players to wear the star. Still does.
It worked for him with Deon.
I think when Parcells was the coach and did not want to sign T.O. and Jones did anyway, it changed his mind a little about his ‘shiny’ approach.
I think Garrett does have some say. His approach is not for the ‘shiny’ players.
If Jerry was still looking for that ‘shiny’ guy he would have signed Ocho Cinco a couple of years ago. A couple of other players that came up in free agency that the cowboy’s ignored. oh yeah, Tebow. I know he isn’t a ‘shiny’ football player with skill in throwing the ball, but could you imagine him in Dallas? That would have been EPIC in media attention.[/quote]
Dez Bryant is more the shiny I am talking about. All the physical ability in the world, but doesn’t have his head screwed on straight and will never make a truly exceptional football player. But he looks the part so Jerry was all over him and way way overpaid him.
[/quote]
Dez Bryant was a gamble, and headache for a couple of years. But, I have no complaints about that pick or how he is maturing. Gonna be great. i could name 31 other teams that would take Dez Bryant on their rooster[/quote]
Name one on the Patriots?[/quote]
Huh? Yes, the Patriots would take Dez Bryant on their roster.[/quote]
Sorry, Misread, thought you said I could name 31 other teams with a Dez Bryant on their team. By that I took player with potential but hugely overpaid. [/quote]
No problem man. I don’t think Dez is averpaid. He is paid the same as other players at that position and that draft position. Miles Austin might be overpaid right now(suprised he wasn’t brought up) because he can’t stay on the field. But, Dez is far from overpaid. It’s a fact…It’s science[/quote]
Dez is worth the money.
Miles is trade bait, if JJ was smart, get me some fucking DLineman.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
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Oh I don’t think The Cowboy’s have the most talented lines in the NFL, I think the Cowboy’s have the most talented team. A possible most talented left tackle though.
Frerick in my opinion ia a great addition. Exactly what we needed. And yes nobody had him on their radar…The beauty of Jerry(and his staff) [/quote]
If no one had him on their radar, a good management team would have taken him with a second round pick. Over-drafting, the beauty of Jerry(and his staff). [/quote]
I can see where you are coming from. But, The Cowboys traded their 18th pick and got Fredrick and Williams with those picks. Pretty fucking good management move in my opinion.
I actually just went and looked at comparable players I thought and he may not be as overpaid as I thought. Although, I am not a huge fan of high paid receivers unless you really think they will be elite. Dez doesn’t fall in that category. Good receivers had for better prices than first rounders.
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I actually just went and looked at comparable players I thought and he may not be as overpaid as I thought. Although, I am not a huge fan of high paid receivers unless you really think they will be elite. Dez doesn’t fall in that category. Good receivers had for better prices than first rounders.[/quote]
Go look at the stats of Dez, really most of the experts put him in the dominating WR catogory as Megatron
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I actually just went and looked at comparable players I thought and he may not be as overpaid as I thought. Although, I am not a huge fan of high paid receivers unless you really think they will be elite. Dez doesn’t fall in that category. Good receivers had for better prices than first rounders.[/quote]
Respect for admitting you were wrong on the first part. Time will tell if you are wrong on the second part. i believe you are. Just my possible homer opinion though
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[quote]mbdix wrote:
Our O-line is better than it has been. The Tackle Smith is a stub, and will be one of the best in the League. Fredrick looks great so far. Waters was an absolutly great sign.
D-Line Hatcher is a stud, D-Ware!?(hopefully not to bad of an injury), I like Selvie, Hayden is tough. Ratliff, and Spencer injured[/quote]
Our Oline is better, but most talented far from it. We are missing a right tackle not sold on Free.
Our Dline right now has Hatcher. Thats it, they did not plan ahead, JJ could have got a quality Dlineman in the 1st and picked up Fredrick in the 2nd NOBODY had him on their radar. It was a reach. He has built no depth on the Dline and that bothers me
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Oh I don’t think The Cowboy’s have the most talented lines in the NFL, I think the Cowboy’s have the most talented team. A possible most talented left tackle though.
Frerick in my opinion ia a great addition. Exactly what we needed. And yes nobody had him on their radar…The beauty of Jerry(and his staff) [/quote]
That is not the beauty, he could have got him in the second or third round and shored up the Dline in the first and second.
He is an awesome marketing and money making machine, he is not a builder of a football team. [/quote]
I know what you’re saying about our d-line. We had Spencer, who was one of our best players on D last year. Ratliff was thought to be available. I just liked our draft. Don’t give up on our Lines yet.
They can do it! They can rip their fucking heads off! ( in the guys voice from Waterboy)