You know, I had serious misgivings about this thread from its inception, but…I’m not too proud to admit when I’m wrong. This thread is great! It has successfully kept Jason from tainting the other threads. Keep up the good work guys. I might even eat my own words and post some ripostes to his arguments. Chris Shugart, just like the FFSG thread, could you do us a favor and start another Jason R. Baran thread when this gets too long? Thanks 