Japanese Men Refusing to Leave their Rooms

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
This thread has been fascinating, seriously. Out of curiosity how would a mook like me be treated if I started living there. [/quote]

Like a freaking king. That’s the main thing that keeps most men here. A lot of it is a facade, not all, and the illusion portion is a powerful one. Think, everywhere you go, like, everywhere girls are giggling and flirting and telling you how cool you are and taking pictures with you and you can get dates with most of them if you want.

Am I quite the salesman, or what?

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How long did it take before you were able to effectively communicate?

Maybe this thread’s title needs to be renamed ‘‘A fucking bunch of fucking American Ex-pats talking about their fucking love of Japan.’’

And, Cortes, your kids are fucking adorable. I saw the picture of your first born but the baby is just gawwwwwjeaous!! With chubby cheeks and angelic smile…aaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww…

Fuck you for softening me up. Fuck you, motherfucker!

Now get your ass in the TM thread, 'cos we got a clash to get over with.

If you aren’t a thug, but enjoy dressing in a manner people associate with thuggishness, then it’s in your best interest to dress differently and waste of time trying to change hearts and minds.

ah wrong thread

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Did I mention there are almost no fat girls and most of the girls are beautiful? I did mention that, right? [/quote]

Then why are the men spending all this time in their rooms?

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You are assuming that these men like girls.

Or would know what do do with one if they ever got one.

The whole point of the hikikomori syndrome is that these are people who are completely unequipped socially or emotionally to interact with other people. The entire Japanese Bikini Team could be pounding on a hikikomori’s door, and he’d just crawl deeper under his Hello Kitty futon quilt until they gave up and went away.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Did I mention there are almost no fat girls and most of the girls are beautiful? I did mention that, right? [/quote]

Then why are the men spending all this time in their rooms?

See what I did there?
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I’ve been discussing this with some of my high level students and they have suggested a few possible things;

  1. Some of the guys were born during the bubble economy. Growing up in such affluent times has left them unprepared to deal with the harsh reality of recession riddled Japan. They end up withdrawing into themselves.

  2. Pressure. From after third grade of JHS, everything is centred around getting into the right school, uni, company. It cracks some people.

  3. Hammer down the nail that sticks out. Some people who don’t fit the mainstream mould feel more and more isolated as they get older and progress through society. Eventually they just drop out.

  4. Shame. Rather than face the possible shame of asking for help dealing with depression, bullying, feelings of isolation/loneliness, it is easier to just hide away.

Just some ideas that my students (middle aged Japanese ladies) have come up with.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Did I mention there are almost no fat girls and most of the girls are beautiful? I did mention that, right? [/quote]

Then why are the men spending all this time in their rooms?

See what I did there?
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Haha! Nice.

All the gaijin guys took all the good women, so there’s no longer any point.

Cue existential angst and huge eyed cartoon girlfriends.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Thinking seriously about learning Japanese…[/quote]

Do it!

You’ll be fluent in no time – say 10 years? ;-)[/quote]

Lol, seriously.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Maybe this thread’s titled needs to be renamed ‘‘A fucking bunch of fucking American Ex-pats talking about their fucking love of Japan.’’

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Good fucking idea.[/quote]

But then, who would fucking click on it?

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Nah, kyoudai deshi, darou?

Hazukashii koto nai yo.[/quote]

So da na. Demo kimi no koto wo “sempai” to yobanakutemo ii darou… ;)[/quote]

Touzen!

Gyakuni, boku no koto wo “kohai” to yonda hou ga ii darou.

Even though I am OLD!

ha haha ha![/quote]

Ojisan de kekou ja nai?
[/quote]
Oi!

Futari to mo “Maaku” to ieru jarou?!?
[/quote]

Omoshirokunee naa.

“Maaku-san” ha Ojisan de manzoku sureba ii ja nai? Semete “Ojiisan” ni shinakatta kara da. (^_~)b

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
cortes isn’t THAT much older than me).

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Hear that, Chushin? (^_^)

Well, my curiosity is certainly piqued. Looking forward to it.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Maybe this thread’s titled needs to be renamed ‘‘A fucking bunch of fucking American Ex-pats talking about their fucking love of Japan.’’

And, Cortes, your kids are fucking adorable. I saw the picture of your first born but the baby is just gawwwwwjeaous!! With chubby cheeks and angelic smile…aaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww…

Fuck you for softening me up. Fuck you, motherfucker!

Now get your ass in the TM thread, 'cos we got a clash to get over with.[/quote]

Heh, already did, DN.

For all we fight, I think we’d get along pretty well if we ever did meet. I mean that.

And thanks a ton. I mean that, too.

[quote]spiderman739 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Did I mention there are almost no fat girls and most of the girls are beautiful? I did mention that, right? [/quote]

Then why are the men spending all this time in their rooms?

See what I did there?
[/quote]

I’ve been discussing this with some of my high level students and they have suggested a few possible things;

  1. Some of the guys were born during the bubble economy. Growing up in such affluent times has left them unprepared to deal with the harsh reality of recession riddled Japan. They end up withdrawing into themselves.

  2. Pressure. From after third grade of JHS, everything is centred around getting into the right school, uni, company. It cracks some people.

  3. Hammer down the nail that sticks out. Some people who don’t fit the mainstream mould feel more and more isolated as they get older and progress through society. Eventually they just drop out.

  4. Shame. Rather than face the possible shame of asking for help dealing with depression, bullying, feelings of isolation/loneliness, it is easier to just hide away.

Just some ideas that my students (middle aged Japanese ladies) have come up with.[/quote]

I don’t find much to disagree with here. A lot of it is what Chushin and I said earlier.

The only point I’d nitpick you on is that life becomes very serious starting in the FIRST grade of jr. high, and more and more often now, even earlier than that. It’s another HUGE can of worms and one of the things I hate more than anything else about this country.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Nah, kyoudai deshi, darou?

Hazukashii koto nai yo.[/quote]

So da na. Demo kimi no koto wo “sempai” to yobanakutemo ii darou… ;)[/quote]

Touzen!

Gyakuni, boku no koto wo “kohai” to yonda hou ga ii darou.

Even though I am OLD!

ha haha ha![/quote]

Ojisan de kekou ja nai?
[/quote]
Oi!

Futari to mo “Maaku” to ieru jarou?!?
[/quote]

Omoshirokunee naa.

“Maaku-san” ha Ojisan de manzoku sureba ii ja nai? Semete “Ojiisan” ni shinakatta kara da. (^_~)b
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Namaiki na yatsu!

(De mo, tashika ni, “aitsu ha, ojiisan tte iwanakatta na” to ureshiku omotta yo :-)[/quote]

Small pleasures, eh? Lol.