When I saw this I hear the Hodgetwins in my head like “It’s just advice. Do whatever the fuck you wanna do” lol
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I don’t know why I’m chiming in but I’m sure there must be good physios out there that do help people improve performance, posture, joint health, movement, etc. Logically - there has to be otherwise the public would have caught on and the profession would die out.
But, speaking from my own injury history, the number of poor-to-average physios out there significantly out-numbers the good ones. Every major injury I’ve had going back 10 years is still giving me underlying issues despite having seen probably 8 different physios.
Anyway - sorry to open another can of worms Jagga. If you know a good physio you are one of the lucky ones!
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Sucks to hear mate. I agree, it’s not an uncommon issue.
How long did you stick with your physios during rehab? After rehab?
@guineapig @j4gga2 in order to avoid sounding like someone who hates physios, I must make my point clear. The physios working at One-On-One Fitness and in your average PT facility are the physios I hate, simply because they have no understanding of how athletic ability translates to feeling better overall. Case in point: before I started weightlifting, I ran cross country. I fucked up both of my knees to the point where I got a limp and could not walk for two weeks. Sitting in a squat position hurt. I remember when I first started lifting weights I did half squats with 115 pounds, and my knees snapped all the way up and all the way down. Flash forward 2 years — I can sit in a squat position for as long as I’d like with no knee irritation whatsoever. Now, my knees only hurt sometimes for a few hours at a clip. I’d call it progress.
I also don’t mean to shit on valuable organizations like Squat University, which do awesome work in the Strength community. However, 99.99% of physios faint at the thought of a weighted squat. These are the physios I despise.
Also, this. The PT community gets a bad rap, but it’s not entirely undeserved. @j4gga2 @guineapig
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On the shoulder dislocation I saw the NHS physio 4 times - its all I was allowed but after that I continued the work at home as best I could on my own. But I can now make my left scapula move in weird ways which aren’t normal - plus side it makes my trap on that side look huge! Down side that shoulder seems under developed vs. right. Maybe its just me.
Knee ligament tear I saw the guy for 2-3 months through private medical insurance. Its ok but if I walk onto the football pitch and put my laces through the ball without a warm up, I wont be playing again for a week.
Groin strain I went to a physio for 2 months, followed her advice for a further month after and the next time I played football I was out for another month until the doctor told me to just take 2 ibuprofen 3 times a day for 14 days. Now its 90% sorted but still some underlying tingles!
That’s very true. I’m shocked/surprised at the number of prospective musculoskeletal physios (people in my degree) with no background whatsoever. That being said, there’s always time to learn.
I think the important distinction to make here is that these physios probably have not done very much modern education. Formal training is catching up
@gsg202 sorry to hear that mate. Certainly, some people seem to get unsatisfactory results but they cut their treatment early and/or don’t adhere to the plan. It dies sound like you had some pretty bad experiences
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How’s the lifting coming along fella? I haven’t been as active on here recently.
Killing krypteia ?
Yeah mate, I’m on my deload week now, which corresponded nicely with a trip to NZ with the gf.
I’m back Thursday night, and will have 3 workouts to squeeze in before Monday
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Friday 12th of April
Deload: Squat and Press
Squat TM: 85kg
Press TM: 40kg
Warm-Up:
- Agile 8 2.0
- A1: Face Pulls: 37.5 x 2 x 15
- A2: Box Jumps: 2 x 3
Squat:
- 20 x 5
- 30 x 5
- 40 x 5
- 50 x 2 x 3 felt off
- 60 x 3 back in the groove, belt on
- 70 x 2
- 77.5 x 1
- 85 x 1 beautiful
Press:
- 20 x 5
- 25 x 3
- 30 x 2
- 35 x 1 belt on
- 40 x 1 yeah my TM was definitely too high
Good thing I’m dropping press
Assistance: 50 total reps per movement AFSAP
- Inverted Row: 20, 13, 12, 5
- Push-Ups: 22, 13, 10, 5
- GHR’s: 20, 15, 10, 5
4 x 25 BPU’s
Saturday 13th of April
Deload: Dead and Bench
DL TM: 110kg
Bench TM: 65kg
Warm-Up:
- Ha ha ha
DL:
- 60 x 5 DOH
- 70 x 5
- 80 x 3
- 90 x 2 belt on
- 100 x 1
- 110 x 5 hook grip, super easy
Bench:
- 20 x 5
- 30 x 5
- 40 x 5
- 50 x 3
- 57.5 x 2
- 65 x 5
All of them felt pretty shit except the last set. Still don’t know how to set up properly
Assistance:
- A1: Straight Bar Triceps Press Down: 30 x 3 x 10
- A2: Kneeling Ab Wheels: 3 x 10
- Barbell Curl: Empty bar x 50 reps, rest pause
There are more informed people that will probably give you tips on here about setting up for bench - but I did see a really good youtube video on it. I’ll try digging it out.
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Cheers mate, I appreciate that
Tuesday 16th of April
Krypteia: P2 W1 C1 Squat
TM: 85kg
Warm-Up:
- Agile 8 2.0
- A1: Face Pulls: 37.5 x 2 x 15
- A2: Box Jumps: 2 x 5 @ PR Height
Squat:
- 35 x 5
- 42.5 x 5
- 50 x 5
- 55 x 5 belt on
- 65 x 5
- 72.5 x 5 all easy so far
- 55 x 5 x 10 pretty easy but my legs are still sore
Krypteia Assistance:
- Dips: +5kg x 5 x 10 felt great / hard
- Chins: 2 x 10, 5+3+2 cluster
- CS DB Rows: 25’s x 3 x 10 felt good
Time: 37 minutes
4 x 25 BPU’s
Thursday 18th of April
Krypteia: P2 W1 C1 - Bench
TM: 65kg
Warm-Up:
- Agile 8 2.0
- A1: Face Pulls: 37.5 x 2 x 15
- A2: Hands-Elevated Plyo Push-Ups: 2 x 5
Bench:
- 25 x 5
- 32.5 x 5
- 40 x 5
- 45 x 5
- 50 x 5
- 55 x 5
- 45 x 10, 10, 10, 10, 8+2 RP
Bench actually felt f*cking great. Heels down, flatter arch, wider grip. My lats were finally working and my lumbar spine isn’t pissed off. Win.
Krypteia Assistance:
- DB RDL’s + Shrugs: 40’s x 2 x 10, 35’s x 4 x 10
- DB Goblet Squats: 50 x 2 x 10, 40 x 3 x 10
Made a decision a couple sets in to only use DB’s that I could set down gently. This actually led to a better pump and allowed me to handle the BBB sets. Sticking with it
Time: sub 40 minutes. Bloody brutal
BPA’s: 100 as RP set, no dropping arms
Well that hurt more than expected
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Sunday 21st of April
Krypteia: P2 W1 C1 Deadlift
TM: 110kg
Warm-Up:
- Agile 8 2.0
- A1: Underhand Med Ball Vertical Toss: 4 x 2 x 5
- A2: Face Pulls: 37.5 x 2 x 20
Deadlift:
- 45 x 5 DOH
- 55 x 5
- 65 x 5
- 72.5 x 5 Hook grip
- 82.5 x 5 belt on
- 92.5 x 5 easy peasy
- 60 x 5 x 10 DOH
Very much on the light end for BBB here, grip help up no problem
Krypteia Assistance:
- Chins, Various Grips: 2 x 10, 4 x 5 x 2 Clusters
- Incline DB Press: 22.5’s x 3 x 10, 20’s x 2 x 10
Time: I think just under the 45 minutes. This workout felt kinda shitty, but passed by quite quickly
BFPA’s: 6 x 20
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Wednesday 24th of April
Krypteia: P2 W2 C1 - Squat
Warm-Up:
- Rusin Hip and Chest Warm-Up
- A1: Face Pulls: 40 x 2 x 15
- A2: Box Jumps: 2 x 5
Squat:
- 35 x 5
- 42.5 x 5
- 50 x 5
- 60 x 5 belt on
- 67.5 x 5
- 75 x 5
- 60 x 5 x 10
Krypteia Assistance:
- CS DB Rows: 22.5’s x 5 x 15 PR
- Incline DB Press: 22.5’s x12, 12, 11, 11, 10
Threw up in my mouth twice during the workout. Through up a lot afterwards. No more pre-workout dairy
Time: seconds under 45min
BFPA’s: 6 x 20
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Good Lord Krypteia is starting to feel so stale.
Next, I’m thinking I’ll either do BBB Beefcake (which, in fairness, is really similar to Krypteia), SGSS or just a Paul Carter big basic looking thing
Friday 26th of April
Some BS coz I was bored
Warm-Up:
- 10 minutes elliptical
Was packing up the gym at the end of my shift and got frisky with a bar
Power cleans:
- 40 x 6
- 50 x 3
- 60 x 2
- 65 x 1
- 70 x 1 PR
- 75 x 1 ugly
Power snatch
- 40 x 2 x 3
SGHP
- 50 x 2 x 3
20 minutes for all of it, actually feeling quite refreshed
What about the program makes you feel that?