J4GGA2's Log: Becoming More Athletic

Well if you got the word we can not use, then you deadlift the wrong way.
As far as I know it only occurs in squat and is not a problem… if you’re holding a good brace in the bottom.
If i occurs because you lose you brace, then practice bracing.

We’ve all been there, you’re doing a damn good job with Krypteia, in Jims words, trust the process.
Keep digging along, it’s a long game and eventually you’ll lift heavy a$$ weights, maybe not before summer but in a year if you’ll pull 160 - 180 kg maybe even more.

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Oh yeah? Let me know when your physio deadlifts 650.

2 points:

  • I’ve never received coaching from some who deadlifts 650
  • I don’t have anything to lose by pulling off blocks
  1. Jim Wendler’s programming
  2. Pull sumo from the floor. No more butt wink! :slight_smile:

Good on ya mate.

Plenty of sumo pullers over tilt their pelvis’ posteriorly to improve leverage off the ground though

I think we’d both agree that coaching and programming are two different ideas. I had my atlas stone load coached by Z, but certainly didn’t receive programming. I run a program written by Jim Wendler, but my coaching cues come from Matt Wenning, Ed Coan and Greg Panora; and not one of those men has directly appraised and fixed my technique.

Saturday 6th of April
Krypteia: P1 W6 C1 - Squat

TM: 85kg

Warm-Up:

  • Agile 8 2.0
  • A1: SVJ: 2 x 5
  • A2: Face Pulls: 37.5 x 2 x 15

Squat: 5s

  • 35
  • 42.5
  • 50
  • 65
  • 72.5 belt on
  • 80
  • 65 x 5 sets

Moved my stance in to slightly narrower than shoulder width with toes just pointing out (from just outside shoulder width with toes very out) and it felt buttery af. Also figured out how to really lock the bar into my back from a high bar position.

Krypteia Assistance:

  • CS DB Rows: 25’s x 12, 12, 12, 12, 10
  • NG 3s Eccentric Incline DB Press : 20’s x 5 x 10

Didn’t feel like doing dips or chins. Sue me.

Time: sub 40 easily

4 x 25 BPU’s

Proud dad moment

These were probably the best high-bar squats have ever felt. Only thing I need to do is lock out fully.

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Yes, yes, I know. :joy: you win buddy. Block pulls are absolutely fine, I’m just busting your balls.

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Sorry mate, didn’t mean to get so argumentative/defensive

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Don’t apologize man. I’m just making the point that physios aren’t always focused on helping you be the strongest you possible.

If you want to be super strong, you may get a few tweaks in the process. I’m generally walking around with a fucked up left hip, two shot knees, and I’m pretty sure if a chiropractor saw my back he’d scream. :laughing:

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The difference between you and me is strength for me is a means to an end, not the end itself

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I think you’re a bit too young to have a fucked up left hip…

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With that attitude towards physios r u really surprised

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I never understood why so many people have such a profoundly negative perception of physios. Some may do “fluffy” correctives, but those are rarely the ones who Garner success in the athletic sector. Physio is about optimising human movement. Nowhere does that require someone gets weak as shit.

Perhaps because there’s quite a wide range of skills and expertise in physio therapy. Some guys work exclusively in hospitals, others with high level athletes. Strength athletes would be the the minority. So there’s probably a fair share of poor experiences around from people trying one single random physio when maybe two streets down there’s a competent one experienced with lifters.

Also other relatively unregulated professions like chiros and osteos and other random disciplines are put in the same boat so drag physio down too

I think there’s a lot more resistance than negative perception going on. Stubbornness, pride, laziness, ignorance, financial reasons, complexity, no perceived need etc. I’m definitely a few of those.

Being consistently healthy and injury free is pretty important so it’s probably worth it

Man check out Squat University. That’s dude a DPT working with the likes of JP Price and Kelly Branton who are around about 1000 lb squatters. That’s the kind of professional you want.

Squat University, John Rusin and Quinn Henoch were exactly the people I was thinking of righting my above post. There certainly are very good, very capable physios around.

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I think these guys being lifters themselves just takes care of a lot of the interpersonal and patient centred stuff.

If you guy to some physio and say my shoulders hurt. They be like stop that shit for a few weeks and we’ll gradually return to activity. Then the lifter doesn’t listen and can’t stay away from the weights because some movements might aggravate it but they can push through and stop going to physio after two sessions.

I think it’s on both the patient and the healthcare professional to effectively communicate the “lifting is a massive part of their life and they will probably need to do at least something however small to stay sane and adhere to whatever protocol is give”

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That’s just the thing though.

Physios aren’t trained to just tell clients/patients to stop what they were doing. They’re trained to make concessions to allow their clients to continue doing what they want.

Bench press → floor press
Squat → (High) Box Squat or Single leg
Deadlift from floor → deadlift from racks

I don’t think it’s fair that so many heath professionals get such a bad name, particularly in lifting communities.

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