[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
Wasn’[/quote]
Right.[/quote]
For some reason the thing submitted when I was in mid-word, edit completed.
This is in the UK… they have yet to master something as basically essential as central heat.
Of course they’re gonna spoon, or sleep in a big pile like kittens will do when they’re cold.
Rob
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
At minimum it says you care quite a bit about what people do alone in their private time.
I don’t know what any of this has to do with society progressing to a more soft, emotional, or pussified status.[/quote]
I care not at all about what others do (really)
I care a lot about what facilitates some very odd behavior. It’s about keeping shit right.
you can hear it in the music.
see it in the anti-bullying campaigns.
see it in the liberal thinking that is so common these days.
you can detect it in the kids these days.
No one wants to accept challenges anymore.
No one wants to pave their own way and be themselves.
we are losing our ability to individuals.[/quote]
I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong, except that I don’t think being gay is the source of all that. I think parents just want to shelter their kids too much and don’t realize how it hurts more than helps. They’re just being shortsighted, in my opinion.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
This is in the UK… they have yet to master something as basically essential as central heat.
Of course they’re gonna spoon, or sleep in a big pile like kittens will do when they’re cold.
Rob[/quote]
Excellent point.
Not having the ability to mix the hot and cold water coming out of the tap probably contributes to that as well.
It was the cuddling that went too far, huh?
?Sometimes you grab his cock, sort of as a joke, particularly if he?s got a semi going. ?It just relieves the tension. It?s not like you?re going to wank him.?
The small sample of 40 presumably struck rich in gay respondents.
Leave my name out of this shit.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
At minimum it says you care quite a bit about what people do alone in their private time.
I don’t know what any of this has to do with society progressing to a more soft, emotional, or pussified status.[/quote]
I care not at all about what others do (really)
I care a lot about what facilitates some very odd behavior. It’s about keeping shit right.
you can hear it in the music.
see it in the anti-bullying campaigns.
see it in the liberal thinking that is so common these days.
you can detect it in the kids these days.
No one wants to accept challenges anymore.
No one wants to pave their own way and be themselves.
we are losing our ability to individuals.[/quote]
I think it’s got a lot to do with how far and fast information can travel. People who do weird stuff used to not have any friends and have to either modify their behavior or remain an outcast. Now you can just get on the internet and find a group of people who also do weird stuff and just be friends with them. Hell, there’s My Little Pony conventions where thousands of grown men show up every year all across the world. This is only possible because enough of them formed an online community to make it acceptable behavior–which it is–I guess. The problem is, I’m not sure how many of these people like this stuff because they actually like it, or they like companionship and fitting into a community.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
I don’t know if any of you have been in a football team locker room, things can get pretty suspect in there. There’s always a few guys that are always a little too touchy. My friend once told me, " It doesn’t count if you call “no homo”. It says so in the bible." LOL[/quote]
American football or soccer?[/quote]
American football, but I’ve seen this happen in many locker rooms… Maybe it is the newer generation.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
I don’t know if any of you have been in a football team locker room, things can get pretty suspect in there. There’s always a few guys that are always a little too touchy. My friend once told me, " It doesn’t count if you call “no homo”. It says so in the bible." LOL[/quote]
Been in many football locker rooms (not lately though) and things never “got pretty suspect.”
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May just be this generation then. I don’t know how you took it when I said “pretty suspect”, maybe worse than intended.
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
I don’t know if any of you have been in a football team locker room, things can get pretty suspect in there. There’s always a few guys that are always a little too touchy. My friend once told me, " It doesn’t count if you call “no homo”. It says so in the bible." LOL[/quote]
Been in many football locker rooms (not lately though) and things never “got pretty suspect.”
[/quote]
May just be this generation then. I don’t know how you took it when I said “pretty suspect”, maybe worse than intended.[/quote]
If one actually reads the article (not the news article, the journal article being discussed in the news article), this is not nearly as sensational or outrageous as the OP seems to think. Not that I expect that level of critical thought.
The researcher conducted loose, unstructured interviews with 40 male athletes in his sociology of sport class. 39 of the 40 answered that they had shared a bed with another male at least once. Horrifying! How could this be?
So. Personal anecdote: I played college football within the last decade. I lived in a house/apartment with four other males on the team, as did every single player on the team at some point during our careers. Most of us probably shared a bed with another male at some point; consider the end of a possible night of drinking when X+1 guys came back to a house with X beds and someone needed a place to crash. College kids do this: they play a game on Saturday afternoon, they go out drinking, they’re smart enough not to drive home, they end up at someone’s place, and instead of walking 2 miles in the dark at 2 AM just to sleep in their own bed, they crash with a teammate. Why is that so appalling?
Most of my former teammates are now happily married, engaged, or dating attractive women. Most of us have good jobs. None of this behavior seems to have PUSSIFIED any of us.
I’m not sure why this is cause for alarm. Nor do I understand how this has anything to to with people “not wanting to accept challenges” (since this is pretty obviously rooted in homophobia and the belief that homosexuality is a threat to society as we know it, consider this: isn’t the push to legalize gay marriage an example of people “accepting challenges”), "not wanting to pave their own way and being themselves (see previous comment), or “losing their ability to be individuals.”
Never played hockey, but the hazing rituals in Canadian hockey leagues can be pretty homosexual from the stories I’ve heard.
Things like making freshmen sit on each others laps naked while watching straight porn (so they get erect). holding hands while showering after practise etc etc.
Let’s just say I’m glad my dad put me into baseball.
Activities Guy:
what did your friends say when you came out to them?
[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:
If one actually reads the article (not the news article, the journal article being discussed in the news article), this is not nearly as sensational or outrageous as the OP seems to think. Not that I expect that level of critical thought.
The researcher conducted loose, unstructured interviews with 40 male athletes in his sociology of sport class. 39 of the 40 answered that they had shared a bed with another male at least once. Horrifying! How could this be?
So. Personal anecdote: I played college football within the last decade. I lived in a house/apartment with four other males on the team, as did every single player on the team at some point during our careers. Most of us probably shared a bed with another male at some point; consider the end of a possible night of drinking when X+1 guys came back to a house with X beds and someone needed a place to crash. College kids do this: they play a game on Saturday afternoon, they go out drinking, they’re smart enough not to drive home, they end up at someone’s place, and instead of walking 2 miles in the dark at 2 AM just to sleep in their own bed, they crash with a teammate. Why is that so appalling?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure we all get that. What we’re wondering is why 37/40 of those kids also said they spooned with the guy when they were in bed. Did you all do that too? Because I didn’t.
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
I don’t know if any of you have been in a football team locker room, things can get pretty suspect in there. There’s always a few guys that are always a little too touchy. My friend once told me, " It doesn’t count if you call “no homo”. It says so in the bible." LOL[/quote]
American football or soccer?[/quote]
American football, but I’ve seen this happen in many locker rooms… Maybe it is the newer generation. [/quote]
I didn’t start playing football until my Freshman year of high school and I’ll say the behavior, although jovial, was sometimes pretty gay. I would practice as a center and one of our QB’s would always purposely tap my junk to “eff” with me.
Pretty disturbing and if I was the person who I am now, I probably would have hit him. But I was a new kid from a small town (30-40 people in my class) to a school with 600 people in my class and were almost all upper middle-class to wealthy, so I didn’t need another reason to be a social outcast.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]ActivitiesGuy wrote:
If one actually reads the article (not the news article, the journal article being discussed in the news article), this is not nearly as sensational or outrageous as the OP seems to think. Not that I expect that level of critical thought.
The researcher conducted loose, unstructured interviews with 40 male athletes in his sociology of sport class. 39 of the 40 answered that they had shared a bed with another male at least once. Horrifying! How could this be?
So. Personal anecdote: I played college football within the last decade. I lived in a house/apartment with four other males on the team, as did every single player on the team at some point during our careers. Most of us probably shared a bed with another male at some point; consider the end of a possible night of drinking when X+1 guys came back to a house with X beds and someone needed a place to crash. College kids do this: they play a game on Saturday afternoon, they go out drinking, they’re smart enough not to drive home, they end up at someone’s place, and instead of walking 2 miles in the dark at 2 AM just to sleep in their own bed, they crash with a teammate. Why is that so appalling?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure we all get that. What we’re wondering is why 37/40 of those kids also said they spooned with the guy when they were in bed. Did you all do that too? Because I didn’t.[/quote]
Neither have I… I always stayed out of the grab ass that people play in sports.
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]SirTroyRobert wrote:
I don’t know if any of you have been in a football team locker room, things can get pretty suspect in there. There’s always a few guys that are always a little too touchy. My friend once told me, " It doesn’t count if you call “no homo”. It says so in the bible." LOL[/quote]
American football or soccer?[/quote]
American football, but I’ve seen this happen in many locker rooms… Maybe it is the newer generation. [/quote]
I didn’t start playing football until my Freshman year of high school and I’ll say the behavior, although jovial, was sometimes pretty gay. I would practice as a center and one of our QB’s would always purposely tap my junk to “eff” with me.
Pretty disturbing and if I was the person who I am now, I probably would have hit him. But I was a new kid from a small town (30-40 people in my class) to a school with 600 people in my class and were almost all upper middle-class to wealthy, so I didn’t need another reason to be a social outcast.[/quote]
I bet if you went to almost any highschool, nearly every guy would say they experienced or has seen some pretty gay things go whether it’s for PE, sports, or whatever.
Ever read the Gospel of John?
13:25
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
That it bothers you so much says more about you than anything else.
[/quote]
and what does it say about me?
that it DOESN’T bother you says a lot about YOU.
[/quote]
It says you are suppressing gay feelings in yourself. Why else would you care so much about it?
And I am gay. And who the f*ck cares?
[quote]seekonk wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]seekonk wrote:
That it bothers you so much says more about you than anything else.
[/quote]
and what does it say about me?
that it DOESN’T bother you says a lot about YOU.
[/quote]
It says you are suppressing gay feelings in yourself that you are uncomfortable with. Why else would you care so much about it? It’s always the most loudmouth anti-gay people who eventually get arrested in an airport bathroom or get caught out hiring a male escort.
And I am gay. And who the f*ck cares?
[/quote]
Shit just got real!