[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Here we go again.
hedo wrote:
The “bulk” of the army is not stuck in Iraq. The bulk of the army is not even delployed in Iraq. Look it up. Stuck is a matter of opinion, not fact.
Of, for every soldier in Iraq, you need one in the US getting ready to be deployed over there, and you have one just returned from Iraq who would like to spent some time at home. So you need 3 soldiers to get 1 set of boots on the ground in Iraq.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/news/news-iraq-usa-alaska.html
US Sending 300 Newly Returned Troops Back to Iraq
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 300 U.S. soldiers who just weeks ago returned home to Alaska after a year in Iraq are being ordered back to try to help bolster security in Baghdad, the U.S. Army said on Monday.
Stuck in Iraq? Who? Us? No way ! ! !
You side with the Islamo-Facism position in almost every post.
No I don’t. I simply point out the facts and explain cause and effect. Sun Tzu claimed it would be wise to know something about your ennemy. You prefer to live in a world of blisfull ignorance.
The Iranian president is the titular head of the movement at this point. He certainly is the leader of the idealogy that you subscribe and argue for. You side with that idealogy and to deny that is blatantly false.
yawn
Israel is certainly able to cut supply lines. I don’t think they will have an issue making attacks on smugglers at the Lebanase border.
Israel would be able to attack smugglers on the Lebanese-Syrian border. That would be an awesome trick. They would pull out of Lebanon, they’re pulling out now, and yet they would be able to attack smugglers on the Lebanese-Syrian border. Without violating Syrian airspace of course. And the smugglers would have been kind enough to stand a bit apart from civilians, so there wouldn’t be any colateral damage.
Dream on hedo.
Hesbollah capabilities have been greatly degraded. The Israeli’s will continue attacking them and further reducing their capability.
No they won’t. The cease fire seems to be holding out. Both parties agreed to a cease fire. Why would they do that if they intend to keep attacking each other.
Hesbollah, as I stated before, will not have the patience to wait. Nasrallah may even be hit at some point and that will certainly set them off.
So who do you think is going to break the cease fire first? The Israeli or Hezbollah? Make up your mind hedo.
By the way if they are going to honor UN resolutions then certainly the one that put Israel in the Middle East is valid and has presedence. Kind of cuts your argument apart since the sword cuts both ways.
Oh boy. UN resolutions. Would you like to hear the one about the Isreali retrating from the Westbank. From east-Jerusalem. From the Golan Heights. Indeed, they cut both ways.
As to warning Iran, both Israel and the US have the ability to project military power. The Iranian Air Force and Navy could be eliminated in less then 48 hrs. by the US. That’s a bloody nose. If an invasion ever followed it would most likely be with the assistance of the many secular parties that exist in that country. More Afganistan then Iraq.
You don’t get it. This was the foreplay into warning Iran. But look who has the bloody nose atm.
Iran is a major issue in the Middle East right now. The US will not allow them to get nukes. They cannot be trusted based on public statements they have made.
Well, that remains to be seen. Iran doesn’t exactly come out of this weakened, do they?
Once the blinders come off it makes perfect sense. Unfortunately Europe has been blinded for many years and is now too weak too act. Too bad. They’ll hit Europe before the US. Ha ha ! ! ! Yeah sure, believe your own propaganda why don’t you. Iran is probably a decade away from having a deployable nuclear weapon.
If you simply disagree on the facts then people would rationally debate with you. Unfortunately you are a Bush hating, Jew bating anti-American, and seem rather proud of it. It colors every post you make and this one is no different. Re-read some of your posts. You have a burning need to hurl insults as facts and then wonder why you are roundly dismissed by most of the posters here.
yawn again.
However.
In the mean time.
[i]BEIRUT, Lebanon, Aug. 15 ? As stunned Lebanese returned Tuesday over broken roads to shattered apartments in the south, it increasingly seemed that the beneficiary of the destruction was most likely to be Hezbollah.
A major reason ? in addition to its hard-won reputation as the only Arab force that fought Israel to a standstill ? is that it is already dominating the efforts to rebuild with a torrent of money from oil-rich Iran.
Nehme Y. Tohme, a member of Parliament from the anti-Syrian reform bloc and the country?s minister for the displaced, said he had been told by Hezbollah officials that when the shooting stopped, Iran would provide Hezbollah with an ?unlimited budget? for reconstruction.
In his victory speech on Monday night, Hezbollah?s leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, offered money for ?decent and suitable furniture? and a year?s rent on a house to any Lebanese who lost his home in the month-long war.
?Completing the victory,? he said, ?can come with reconstruction.?[/i]
Shit man, it doesn’t look like they’re gonna make the mistake you hoped for. Now what?
I’ll tell you something hedo. Decades ago I used to play chess. Official, competative chess. I was pretty good at it. Local level of course, nothing fancy. After every game we sort of rerun it with your opponent to learn from our mistakes. And every game I won easily (not many of those though), the guy on the other side would show me how [i]he[/] should have won if only I would have been kind enough to make all the mistakes he had planned for me.
You hope that Hezbollah will be stupid enough to overplay their hand. It’s not going to happen.
They’re going to take charge in the rebuilding of Southern Lebanon and this will increase their popularity in that area even more.
Your turn.[/quote]
I am going to guess you have heard of a UAV. They’ve been in all the papers. They even have armed ones these days. They haven’t stopped the supplies in the past, they will in the future. IT was a choice, not a lack of capability. Of course they will violate Syrain airspace. Syria can’t stope them without losing a few aircraft each time and according to the resolution Syria sshouldn’t allow smuggling anyway so no repurcussion should follow right?
You sidestepped the UN question. Sure let’s obey all of them. Now the Palestinians can go away confident they will never get the disputed terroritories back? End of problem. You can’t pick and choose which one to obey. So should we obey all of them? Starting with the one that created Israel.
So let’s look at the situation objectively. Hesbollah launched most of their arsenal and killed 67 civilians. In the proicess they lost 600 of their most highly trained fighters. A UN blocking force will come in and protect Israel’s northern border. If it works teriffic. I’m sure Hesbollah will disarm and go away right? When they decide they will not and the UN decides it doesn’t want to really fight Israel will go in again. This time confident the world will let them do what it takes to end the problem.
Hesbollah’s only victory isn’t they weren’t annihilated. This is the same outcome that every Arab army has had for 60 years. They can’t militarily face Israel only raid or damage certain portions. The reprisals are always much worse. Lebabon doesn’t exist as a state any longer yet no world outcry exists. Do you really think the Lebanese are happy with Hesbollah right now?
Your information regarding US forces is factually wrong. Continuing to refute it would be silly. They may be politically hamstrung but operationally they are not. Continuing to debate it with you is counter-productive until you are up to speed and will use facts instead of rhetoric.
You use of “yawn” is curious. Examples where you don’t actually do what you are accused of would be a stronger response.
Your chess example is interesting. A little tangental as far as this argument goes however. Hesbollah has already played their hand. I’ll bet the IDF does a much more thorough evaluation of what happened. Hesbollah will suffer greatly in round two because of it.