[quote]ChuckyT wrote:
Belgian troops were supervising the elections in Congo recnetly.
“The Belgian Congo” will be the answer to any further criticism of the USA by our lovely Belgian fascist.
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Chucky,
I know there are some nasty things in Belgian history. I don’t applaud them however. And that means I’m not responsible for them.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hedo,
It seems you have a habit of declaring victory where there is none. And seeing defeat where there is none.
If you want to talk about global politics and strategies, that is most disturbing.
Regards,
Wreckless[/quote]
Nope just declaring you a useful idiot who isn’t worth debating with because of your lack of honesty and self esteem. If you were a worthy opponent, who could admit being wrong, I would continue playing with you like a cat toy.
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
You made really good points hedo. I think Israel’s IDF could definitely do more than ‘bloody-nose’ Hezbollah. Hezbollah are the enemy of peace. Why is that proposition so unplacable?
Because they kill so many more than resposnible, just to prove their point. I really hope you don’t infer i’m an Islamo-fascist for pointing out that that definition could also ‘cut both ways’.
I don’t think the UN has the answer. Well, it has the answer, but it isn’t the answer. justthefacts made a whole huge post of UN resolutions saying ‘get out of the west bank etc’, and the UN can say ‘no more suicide bombings, that’s an order’ as much as it wants, it won’t achieve shit.
I agree Iran can’t be trusted to have nukes, that alsnlisbwqj president guy seems fucking unstable and militant. I think he has a very wicked past too.
I really don’t believe (despite shit in the news recently) that Britain is more of a target, or even an equal target, to the US. The US is ‘satan’, remember?
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I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Thanks to previous interventions, Iran distrusts/hates Britain even more than the U.S.
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Just a question- who do you feel can be trusted to have nukes. So many contentious situations have had nukes introduced. Israel had them, and almsot used them in 1967. Pakistan-India. China and Russia have them. But which is the only country to have fired them in anger? [/quote]
Great point. Not the last sentence, which is fucking stupid, but you’re right that North Korea and Pakistan are both far scarier nuclear scenarios than Iran.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
[sarcasm]A valiant warrior indeed[/sarcasm]
I agree. It takes far greater courage to climb in an F-16 and bomb a village.
You’re right it does.
When the enemy chooses to hide faceless behind innocent civillians, inocent civillians will die. This is the direct result of the brave hezbollah warrior that you apparently think is just dreamy.
Striking a village that is hiding the enemy is an unfortunate call to duty in this war. Doing what must be done is not always easy.
These are the terms of war that hezbollah has set, not Israel.
So you’re saying it takes more courage to bomb a village using an F-16 than engage the IDF in close combat and fire a anti-tank missile at an Israeli tank.
You’re a fool bigflamer and underestimating your enemy always set you up for disaster.[/quote]
[i]cour.age (k?rj, kr-) KEY
NOUN:
The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.[/i]
Let me break this down into little bits and pieces for your easy digestion.
-Hezbollah hides behind the innocent civillians of Lebanon, UN posts, and anyone else that they think the average human being would not attack militarily.
-Hezbollah fires rockets into the recognized free state of Israel from behind these targets that decent people would not normally attack
-Hezbollah kidnaps, and threatens with death, Israeli soldiers. Again, hiding from behind innocent civilians.
-Hezbollah hides munitions and weapons in hospitals, schools, etc. Thereby directly putting these innocents in danger.(not very couragous IMHO, but you seem to think so)
-Israel is then faced with the task of rendering hezbollah incapable of inflicting further harm on its people.
-This must be acomplished by engaging it’s enemies. Enemies who choose to cowardly hide behind inocent civillians. Civillians which hezbollah have claimed to care about. (anybody else think that is wierd?)
There it is, in a nutshell wreckless. Israel is faced with a choice. Protect it’s civillians by engaging a hostile enemy hiding using inocent women and children as shields. Or allow hezbollah to continue their terrorism and not defend their own citizens. All for the sake of not upsetting douchebags such as yourself.
Courage is, IMHO, doing what is necessary in the face of great danger, fear or uncertainty.
Yes it does in fact take courage to attack targets that are launching rockets at your civillians, all the while knowing that you will more than likely kill inocent civillians in the process.
Hezbollah has put Lebonese women and children in great danger, not Israel.
Wake the fuck up.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Maybe Wreckless, and danny-boy would like to go over there and be some human shields.
We should be so lucky.
Hey, maybe they will. After all, they think the terrorists are just super duper peace loving fuckers.
On the internet, everybody is a hero. But you more than most. Why don’t you go over there?[/quote]
Nice try asshole.
I tried for two years to get my wife on board with reinlistment into the Marine Corps. It would have been nice to get into the reserves and still keep my gig as a fireman. Oh well, marriage is full of comprimises, big and small. It just wasn’t something she could live with and I respect that.
Keep painting yourself as a douchebag asshole, it’s really very entertaining.
Hey, you’ve got other priorities.
So did Bush.
So did Cheney.
I understand.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hey, you’ve got other priorities.
So did Bush.
So did Cheney.
I understand.[/quote]
You have to be the biggest fucking piles of euro horseshit that T-Nation has ever had to fucking smell. Seriously, do Belgium a favor and send your heart into an unshockable rythem.
I’m not going to defend the decisions that my family and I have made to your happy go lucky retarded ass.
Go the fuck away wreckless. You’re nothing but a useless troll. It saddens me to see good people dying all of the time, and your dumbass gets to keep breathing.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hey, you’ve got other priorities.
So did Bush.
So did Cheney.
I understand.[/quote]
I HATE when these threads degenerate into personal attacks, ruins what are often good discussions. Did you catch his part about “reenlistment”? Trying to willfully reenlist in time of war, after having already served your country, is miles away from dodging a draft with student deferments or semi-BS Guard service.
Other people pull the ad hominem shit with you and the Belgian crap, I’d have thought you wouldn’t be a big enough hypocrite to turn around and give it right back.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Other people pull the ad hominem shit with you and the Belgian crap, I’d have thought you wouldn’t be a big enough hypocrite to turn around and give it right back.[/quote]
Uhhh… Are you really that bad at reading comprehension? Have you ever read anything our little neonazi has written?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hey, you’ve got other priorities.
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Man, another day of success in the tank, another day of TOTAL insignificance for Belgium.
Well, that’s not entirely true. I suppose they have some significance in the Congo, having shattered the region through what was probably the most unfettered, genocidal example of colonial rule ever. Fortunately for the millions who were murdered, wreckless didn’t agree, although being Belgian, he and his kin were too chickenshit to stand up to his own government, because let’s face it, they might have gotten hurt. Beligans have a rich storied history of cowardice, from Caesar to Charlemagne to Hitler.
Apart than that, they are too scared to even enforce their own laws. Lisping: “We’re gonna sue George Bush for war crimes… no wait… we give up, don’t look at us like that!!! We’re only tough when we’re rounding up spear-armed tribal folks for death camps! Please don’t hurt us!”
Now, for those that know the difference between a battle and the war, we’ll see if anything changes or if anyone truly wins anything…
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Hey, you’ve got other priorities.
So did Bush.
So did Cheney.
I understand.
I HATE when these threads degenerate into personal attacks, ruins what are often good discussions. Did you catch his part about “reenlistment”? Trying to willfully reenlist in time of war, after having already served your country, is miles away from dodging a draft with student deferments or semi-BS Guard service.
Other people pull the ad hominem shit with you and the Belgian crap, I’d have thought you wouldn’t be a big enough hypocrite to turn around and give it right back.[/quote]
Had you paid attention, you would have noticed that this thread degenerated a long time ago. I’m just one of the few that thinks the pigs shouldn’t have a monopoly on namecalling.
They’re the ones who like to piss people off. For me, it’s an acquired taste.
I’m sure glad I stuck it to him. Did you notice him squeel? It sure made my day.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
I’m sure glad I stuck it to him. Did you notice him squeel? It sure made my day.[/quote]
Whatever wreckless.
I’ll admit to being wrong about one thing though, you shouldn’t go away. You should just keep posting. Every one of your bullshit posts illustrates more than the last what an asshole you are.
In retrospect, it’s prbably a sad commentary on my part to have gotten caught up with your bullshit. I should know better.
Have a nice life wreckless, I’ve got a morning workout to get to.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Now, for those that know the difference between a battle and the war, we’ll see if anything changes or if anyone truly wins anything…[/quote]
That’s a good point man.
If, as i suspect, the basic nature of that place (ie conflict, tension, hatred, imbalance) doesn’t change as a consequence of Israel’s brief spurt of free action and shellings (I say Israel as supposedly they are civilised, unlike hezbollah, and will listen to international diplomatic opinion), will we have another battle?
I don’t think all these battles in the last 60 years have achieved anything good. It’s still fucked up.