[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Be sure to write…
Bush: We’ll Protect Israel
The FORWARD
March 24, 2006
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?ref=staff20060323138
What’s your point?
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Whatever Israel starts, we’ll have to finish - they’re complete asses…
It’s time for the final solution for the Middle East. They’ve been waring for millenia now. It must be imbedded in their DNA. We must find that gene and isolate it. Then capture their entire population by extreme force, it’s the only thing they understand. Then test which person has the gene ans whether it’s active or not.
Then, well then the mealtdown happens. Start from scratch. With the antire population of bad apples done with a new society of prosperity can form. Till then this crap will continue forever. It’s only a matter of time before they become better and better armed. It WILL become nuclear in the future.
We’re dealing with people with no regard for life. Not even theirs. So if they have no regard for life, they won’t feel bad about loosing it.
Just kidding, or am i?
Gregus, even if you are joking, genocide is no laughing matter…
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
LBRTRN wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Be sure to write…
Bush: We’ll Protect Israel
The FORWARD
March 24, 2006
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?ref=staff20060323138
What’s your point?
Whatever Israel starts, we’ll have to finish - they’re complete asses…
[/quote]
Bu
Ok…considering the article you provided a link to is reporting on comments made by Bush (in March) in reference to the threat posed by a nuclear Iran and its psycho president who just so happens to think it is his God given duty to blow Isreal of the face of the globe, I still don’t see your point.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
rainjack wrote:
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The time for making nice is over…
When were you making nice?[/quote]
I can’t believe I am entertaining the biggest twat on these forums, but - here goes:
We have kept a collar and leash on Israel since the early 70’s in a miserably failed effort to maintain some modicum of peace in the region.
It’s time to quit giving a shit about the fucking Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians - and just let Israel kick the shit out of all comers.
We’ll have a quick resolution to the Iranian nuke issue.
The Islamo-facists will turn their hatred form us just long enough to be exterminated by the Israelis - who could give a flying fuck about respecting anything but their own self preservation.
We should have let them handle it back in 1973 the way they wanted to. we would all still be buying 50 cent gas.
"It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.
-Zec 12:3
Seems rather pertinent…
[quote]vroom wrote:
Gregus, even if you are joking, genocide is no laughing matter…[/quote]
Yea, but genocide against only bad people is not bad, is it? We kill err execute murderers all the time. We could just upscale.
My past was just sarcastic in how to deal with it. The truth in all seriousness is that we will never in our lifetime or our children’s or their children’s lifetime find peace there. It has been like this since the beginning, is like that now and forever it shall remain.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
Yea, but genocide against only bad people is not bad, is it? We kill err execute murderers all the time. We could just upscale.[/quote]
Oh, and you have a way to tell them apart?
And that is entirely too fatalistic. The fact we individually are not empowered to create solutions or work toward solutions does not make it insolvable.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
We as in the World. If Isreal went into Iran, all out shit will hit the fan in the region.
Rockscar,
I’m just suggesting that I suspect some folks somewhere are just chomping at the bit for this to happen…[/quote]
Yes it’s an obvious attempt by Iran to destablize the area and unite arabs against Isreal and the US. Iran has already proactively said an attack on Syria is an attack on all Islamic states…
Iran WANTS this to happen…and on the very day they are supposed to get resolution on their nuke program.
I did have a way of telling them apart via gene studies, but it was all hypothetical.
I may sound fatalistic, but fatalism is a part of our life and universe. It’s a normal part of nature and history. I hope it’s not like that in the future, but i think it very well may be…Unfortunately.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
I may sound fatalistic, but fatalism is a part of our life and universe. It’s a normal part of nature and history. I hope it’s not like that in the future, but i think it very well may be…Unfortunately.[/quote]
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties too…
[quote]vroom wrote:
hedo wrote:
Who would you negotiate with?
Hamas
Hezbollah
Islmaic Jihad
Syria
Iran
That’s 5 off the top of my head. Probably many more involved.
The Palestinians will never settle with Israel until they can consolidate the factions and stick to any deal they make. Land for Peace didn’t work out. Got the land…didn’t keep the peace.
Did you even read my post? I didn’t mention negotiation with anyone.[/quote]
Who are you going to “refresh the peace process with”? What does that mean…to you?
[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
"It will come about in that day that I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples; all who lift it will be severely injured. And all the nations of the earth will be gathered against it.
-Zec 12:3
Seems rather pertinent… [/quote]
None of what is happening is very surprising. If you know the Biblical history and prophecy of the whole Region, the very concept of “Mid-East Peace” is an oxymoron. But I have the feeling this is just the beginning.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Who are you going to “refresh the peace process with”? What does that mean…to you?
[/quote]
Sorry dude, that was in relation to people realizing that the alternative to peace is to have Israel kick their asses for a while.
Refreshing the peace process was them, the bad guys and the populace, deciding they’d rather have peace then hide in their basements in the dark for months at a time.
Hey, maybe it won’t happen, but it sure as fuck was not referring to appeasement, negotiation or any other imaginary negative fantasies you have concerning the opinions of those you think may be “liberal”.
Maybe after WWIII, assuming it happens soon enough that it doesn’t end in widescale nuclear conflict due to proliferation, we can implement serious efforts to eliminate militant fanaticism and things that lead to it.
Eliminating ignorance, or at least poverty, might help. However, yeah, it might require editing a few religions a little bit. I think that would be better than extinction no matter how much they (all religions) object to the concept.
[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Whatever Israel starts, we’ll have to finish - they’re complete asses…
[/quote]
You obviously have know clue about Israel’s military.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Maybe after WWIII…[/quote]
Is this the start of it?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
rainjack wrote:
…
The time for making nice is over…
When were you making nice?
I can’t believe I am entertaining the biggest twat on these forums, but - here goes:
We have kept a collar and leash on Israel since the early 70’s in a miserably failed effort to maintain some modicum of peace in the region.
It’s time to quit giving a shit about the fucking Lebanese, Syrians, Iranians - and just let Israel kick the shit out of all comers.
We’ll have a quick resolution to the Iranian nuke issue.
The Islamo-facists will turn their hatred form us just long enough to be exterminated by the Israelis - who could give a flying fuck about respecting anything but their own self preservation.
We should have let them handle it back in 1973 the way they wanted to. we would all still be buying 50 cent gas. [/quote]
Pretty much everything you said is wrong. The IDF may be one of the best militaries in the world, but in the big picture they are losing to Hamas and co., due to demographics, etc. Did any of you ever stop to consider the fact that an artificial (examine the numbers in 1947) Jewish state in the Middle East has no legitimate reason for existence? Even ignoring that HUGE point, kudos to the Israelis for building an incredibly effective militarized society, but is there any reason, aside from the Israel lobby and media, that we are supporting an appartheid state against all of its neighbors?
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Pretty much everything you said is wrong. The IDF may be one of the best militaries in the world, but in the big picture they are losing to Hamas and co., due to demographics, etc. Did any of you ever stop to consider the fact that an artificial (examine the numbers in 1947) Jewish state in the Middle East has no legitimate reason for existence? Even ignoring that HUGE point, kudos to the Israelis for building an incredibly effective militarized society, but is there any reason, aside from the Israel lobby and media, that we are supporting an appartheid state against all of its neighbors?[/quote]
So the solution obviously is to build a time machine…awesome…
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Whatever Israel starts, we’ll have to finish - they’re complete asses…
You obviously have know clue about Israel’s military.[/quote]
I’m very well aware of Israel’s military – but why should they expend their own resources if they can trick American Christian’s into fighting their battles for them?
Why do you think Jerusalem Post named Paul Wolfowitz “Man of the Year”?
“What’s not in dispute is that Wolfowitz is the principal author of the doctrine of preemption, which framed the war in Iraq and which, when it comes to it, will underpin US action against other rogue states.”
http://info.jpost.com/C003/Supplements/MOTY/art.01.html
Israel, supposedly our “closest ally” and one of the greatest military powers in the world, was the main beneficiary of the Iraq war – they weren’t even part of the “Coalition of the Willing” – despite their enthusiasm…
Israel To U.S.: Don’t Delay Iraq Attack
JERUSALEM, Aug. 16, 2002
(CBS) Israel is urging U.S. officials not to delay a military strike against Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday.
Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.
“Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose,” Gissin said…
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/18/world/main519037.shtml
Meanwhile we’re out over half a trillion dollars and 2700 dead troops… so far. To be fair they did contribute a slight bit…
The Israeli Torture Template
Many of the torture methods were developed by the Israelis over many years of interrogating Arab prisoners on the occupied West Bank and in Israel itself.
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen05102004.html
Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq
The Guardian
December 9, 2003
This is a hunter-killer team," said a former senior US intelligence official, who added that he feared the new tactics and enhanced cooperation with Israel would only inflame a volatile situation in the Middle East.
“It is bonkers, insane. Here we are - we’re already being compared to Sharon in the Arab world, and we’ve just confirmed it by bringing in the Israelis and setting up assassination teams.”
And here we go again…
Iran Showdown Tests Power of “Israel Lobby”
The Israel Lobby seems to be the only major organised force actively pushing the confrontation with Iran toward crisis.
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/34935
“Israel Should Not Be on the Forefront of a War Against Iran”
TIME
Apr. 09, 2006
TIME: Would Israel take military action to stop Iran’s nuclear program?
Olmert: As the one who has to take the decision, I can tell you that I genuinely don’t think Israel should be on the forefront of this war…
…it is incumbent upon America and Europeans to form a strategy and implement it to remove this danger of unconventional weapons in Iran. To assume that Israel would be the first to go into a military confrontation with Iran represents a misunderstanding of this issue.
http://www.time.com/time/world/printout/0,8816,1181672,00.html
I know what your thinking – Iran?! I thought this thread was about Israel/Lebanon?
US blames Iran, Syria for Hizbollah capture
Jul 12, 2006
ROSTOCK, Germany (Reuters) - The White House on Wednesday demanded the immediate release of two Israeli soldiers captured by Lebanon’s Hizbollah guerrillas and blamed Syria and Iran for the attacks.
“We condemn in the strongest terms Hizbollah’s unprovoked attack on Israel and the kidnapping of the two Israeli soldiers,” said Frederick Jones, spokesman with the White House National Security Council.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-07-12T180458Z_01_LA622138_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-USA-KIDNAPPINGS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
“To assume that Israel would be the first to go into a military confrontation with Iran represents a misunderstanding of this issue.”
Are Jews born smart?
So it would seem…