Seeing that Israel is gonna get the short stick from every nation. How long before the first Katusa missiles are lobbed into Israel?
[quote]Mishima wrote:
but just to make one thing clear: if there is believable proof that the ship had torpedos on board Israel was right. Right now there is no proof for that.[/quote]
Um… how would they know if the ship did or didn’t have torpedo, unless they were allow to search the ship?
But yeah, you’re a bad troll.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Mishima wrote:
but just to make one thing clear: if there is believable proof that the ship had torpedos on board Israel was right. Right now there is no proof for that.[/quote]
Um… how would they know if the ship did or didn’t have torpedo, unless they were allow to search the ship?
But yeah, you’re a bad troll.[/quote]
wiki:
Following the boardings, Israeli naval forces began towing the flotilla’s vessels to Ashdod, from where the activists are to be deported.[21] Israel said humanitarian aid confiscated from the ships would be transferred to Gaza, but Israel would not transfer banned items such as cement.[2]
they have them but maybe they flushed the torbedos down the loo
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Yonatan wrote:
I haven’t read the whole thread but here’s my view on this.
Before you think of anything else, know that this humanitarian mission was launched in full knowledge of the blockade of Gaza. They knew that they were going to be intercepted and there would be confrontation. They knew Israel would not let allow them to get to Gaza and yet they went anyway.
They were told several times in English to turn the boats around, but they didn’t. They were deliberately provoking Israel and now that shit got real they’re crying about it as if it wasn’t their fault and it was not forseeable.
Commandos boarded the ship and they were greeted with considerable resistence. Even if what they say is true that they were only beating the soldiers with wood (which I don’t believe) then they are incredibly stupid. The soldiers were beaten severely and several were thrown onto lower decks (see video).
Do I completely agree with Israel’s tactics? No, I don’t, I think they could have handled it better and regret the impact this will have on their foreign relations, but I still stand with Israel on this.[/quote]
What would you say Israel should have done?[/quote]
Used troops who were better trained for the situation. They used a squad of commandos who are trained to board gunships and take them over. This was a disaster waiting to happen.
But I proved there were torpedos on board already - LMAO . . .
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Not sure why it’s an Israeli blockade. Egypt has a bigger border fence to keep out these arabs than Israel.
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This was a set up. The propaganda ships either make it (hurray! evil Jooos defeated), or are stopped (Ah, evil Jooos stopped our ships!).
Fact is, if the arabs put down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace.
If the Israelis (and I am Israeli, living in the USA) put down their weapons, they would all be killed.
The arabs in Gaza/West Bank/East Jerusalem are there because the Hashemite king of Jordan and the Eyptians completely tooled them around, started a stupid war circa 1948 because they had been tools of Hitler and bought into his crap (they even had SS brigades under the Grand Mufti) and then left them stranded when Jordan got its ass kicked in 1967.
Before that, we got along just fine. I had family in “arab East Jerusalem” that lived alongside arabs who left crappy Jordan and Syria.
Full dislcosure:
My wife was killed 15 years ago by an retarded arab boy his father strapped with dynamite and sent into Israel to blow himself up. Imagine doing that to your own child, let alone a child who did not understand what was happening. I’ve raised 4 daughters by myself, and would die before putting them in danger.
There is a good side and a bad side here.
here is the image of one of those torpedos . . .
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Fact is, if the arabs put down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace.
If the Israelis (and I am Israeli, living in the USA) put down their weapons, they would all be killed.
[/quote]
x999999999999999
This is the truth.
[quote]jre67t wrote:
Seeing that Israel is gonna get the short stick from every nation. How long before the first Katusa missiles are lobbed into Israel?
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Oh, they were going this morning out of Gaza.
Here is a link to the videos of the raid.
The “peaceful unarmed community organizers” on this boat were shooting at the IDF before the first commando stepped on the deck.
You can also watch “unarmed peace demonstrator” stab a soldier who was talking.
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
But I proved there were torpedos on board already - LMAO . . .[/quote]
where? maybe I did not read your post
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
here is the image of one of those torpedos . . . [/quote]
for this torpedo 10 people died? how funny.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
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Not sure why it’s an Israeli blockade. Egypt has a bigger border fence to keep out these arabs than Israel.
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This was a set up. The propaganda ships either make it (hurray! evil Jooos defeated), or are stopped (Ah, evil Jooos stopped our ships!).
Fact is, if the arabs put down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace.
If the Israelis (and I am Israeli, living in the USA) put down their weapons, they would all be killed.
The arabs in Gaza/West Bank/East Jerusalem are there because the Hashemite king of Jordan and the Eyptians completely tooled them around, started a stupid war circa 1948 because they had been tools of Hitler and bought into his crap (they even had SS brigades under the Grand Mufti) and then left them stranded when Jordan got its ass kicked in 1967.
Before that, we got along just fine. I had family in “arab East Jerusalem” that lived alongside arabs who left crappy Jordan and Syria.
Full dislcosure:
My wife was killed 15 years ago by an retarded arab boy his father strapped with dynamite and sent into Israel to blow himself up. Imagine doing that to your own child, let alone a child who did not understand what was happening. I’ve raised 4 daughters by myself, and would die before putting them in danger.
There is a good side and a bad side here.
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I am really sorry to hear about your wife, and this just shows the type of people Israel have to deal with every day. I have heard this from every Israeli I have ever talked to.
This is what a greek activist had to day once he got home, hopefully this will shed some light
Israeli troops used tear gas and electroshock weapons during their brutal attack against civilians onboard an international aid convoy, a Greek activist says.
“They fired rubber coated bullets, tear gas and then used electroshock weapons on some activists,” pro-Palestinian activist Michalis Grigoropoulos told a press conference on Tuesday.
The Greek campaigner made the remarks after Israel deported him along with five other activists from Greece to the capital of Athens.
The Freedom Flotilla aid convoy was carrying hundreds of activists and journalists and thousands of tons of humanitarian aid to the impoverished people of Gaza.
Nearly 500 activists were detained and taken to the southern Israeli prison of Ashdod, while 48 others will be taken to Ben Gurion international airport to be deported to their countries.
The Greek campaigner also talked about the brutal behavior of the Israeli police, saying they had beaten up two Greek activists.
He added that those in detention were suffering wretched conditions at Ashdod prison.
“They made me sign papers on my expulsion, without me knowing what was on the papers because I did not have the right to a translator, a lawyer or to communicate with my family,” Grigoropoulos said.
Lets suppose there is an escalation of war between Israel and the rest of the Nations around them. Dont you think Israel should go all the way into just diminishing them to where at least there will be peace for another 20yrs until they rebuild there young Jihadist? Also if a full fledged war does begin what are the chances and what do you guys think of the USA becoming involved?
Jewbacca sorry to hear about your wife.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Fact is, if the arabs put down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace.
If the Israelis (and I am Israeli, living in the USA) put down their weapons, they would all be killed.
[/quote]
x999999999999999
This is the truth.[/quote]
Thats bullshit the only way to peace is to free the palestinians and stop building on their land, even the UN says the israeli settlements are illegal, people here talk about the Israeli deaths compare that to the
thousands killed by these bastards
[quote]Mishima wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
here is the image of one of those torpedos . . . [/quote]
for this torpedo 10 people died? how funny.
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you are still totally clueless . . . no one ever said they were smuggling torpedos into Gaza!!!
@Jewbacca: sorry to here about your loss. no politics.
[quote]weby wrote:
This is what a greek activist had to day once he got home, hopefully this will shed some light
Israeli troops used tear gas and electroshock weapons during their brutal attack against civilians onboard an international aid convoy, a Greek activist says.
“They fired rubber coated bullets, tear gas and then used electroshock weapons on some activists,” pro-Palestinian activist Michalis Grigoropoulos told a press conference on Tuesday.
The Greek campaigner made the remarks after Israel deported him along with five other activists from Greece to the capital of Athens.
The Freedom Flotilla aid convoy was carrying hundreds of activists and journalists and thousands of tons of humanitarian aid to the impoverished people of Gaza.
Nearly 500 activists were detained and taken to the southern Israeli prison of Ashdod, while 48 others will be taken to Ben Gurion international airport to be deported to their countries.
The Greek campaigner also talked about the brutal behavior of the Israeli police, saying they had beaten up two Greek activists.
He added that those in detention were suffering wretched conditions at Ashdod prison.
“They made me sign papers on my expulsion, without me knowing what was on the papers because I did not have the right to a translator, a lawyer or to communicate with my family,” Grigoropoulos said. [/quote]
My money says that this is exactly what the “activists” wanted.
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
[quote]Mishima wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
here is the image of one of those torpedos . . . [/quote]
for this torpedo 10 people died? how funny.
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you are still totally clueless . . . no one ever said they were smuggling torpedos into Gaza!!![/quote]
quote from doubleduce:Wait for them to get to Israeli waters and torpedo there asses?
[quote]weby wrote:
This is what a greek activist had to day once he got home, hopefully this will shed some light
Israeli troops used tear gas and electroshock weapons during their brutal attack against civilians onboard an international aid convoy, a Greek activist says.
“They fired rubber coated bullets, tear gas and then used electroshock weapons on some activists,” pro-Palestinian activist Michalis Grigoropoulos told a press conference on Tuesday.
The Greek campaigner made the remarks after Israel deported him along with five other activists from Greece to the capital of Athens.
The Freedom Flotilla aid convoy was carrying hundreds of activists and journalists and thousands of tons of humanitarian aid to the impoverished people of Gaza.
Nearly 500 activists were detained and taken to the southern Israeli prison of Ashdod, while 48 others will be taken to Ben Gurion international airport to be deported to their countries.
The Greek campaigner also talked about the brutal behavior of the Israeli police, saying they had beaten up two Greek activists.
He added that those in detention were suffering wretched conditions at Ashdod prison.
“They made me sign papers on my expulsion, without me knowing what was on the papers because I did not have the right to a translator, a lawyer or to communicate with my family,” Grigoropoulos said. [/quote]
Of course this sheds some light, on a pile of Horse Crap.
“They made me sign papers…or to communicate with my family,” I find this uterly funny since there were three hikers arested by Iran, and it took 3 months before they were allowed to talk to anyone. He spends one night in prison and deported home. Sounds like really harsh treatment.