Hey Weby - I’m not American. I’ve never had this so-called American propaganda shoved down my throat. I support Israel. Guess that blows your stupid accusations out of the water. Idiot.
But I agree they need to change. They should openly declare they have nukes. Lots of them. And then promptly drop them all on Iran.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
BTW, do you even know who Charlemagne was? Or do you think he was an Apache chief that rode with Geronimo?[/quote]
I lol’d…alot
america should nuke the whole middle east.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
america should nuke the whole middle east.[/quote]
hahahaha if it were only that easy man… it wouldnt be over then though cause all of the terrorist cells that are already here in america.
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[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
america should nuke the whole middle east.[/quote]
hahahaha if it were only that easy man… it wouldnt be over then though cause all of the terrorist cells that are already here in america.
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meh…slit some fucking throats! /war
Push: you rock.
Push: you rock.
double post for the ghey.
hahahaha some otis p0wnage
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Israel is not the root cause for why we are attacked by terrorists. The root cause of why we are attacked by terrorists is the exact same reason the west has always been attacked by Islam. Islam has a different set of values and the goal of global domination under the rule of Allah. Their values are in direct opposition to western civilization and only the total destruction/submission of the west to Islam’s control will bring peace between the west and Islam.
Pick a century - ANY century - adter tthe 6th century and you will find followers of Islam attacking the west. They may have a variety of rationales and justifications for their attacks - but the constant has been that Islam seeks the desruction/submission of all things non-Islam. PERIOD - END OF STORY.
There is no peace possible between the west and Islam - you’re only deluding yourself if you think this is possible. It is not Israel’s fault - If Israel was taken out of existence today, it would not change a thing. They will still seek to destroy the west . . . .[/quote]
What a pile of shit. Dude, keep believing the lies that the MSM, the zionists and the neocon fascists continue to put out and see where that gets you. Holy Fuck.
You are precisely the demographic that W. Bush was speaking to when he said the reason the attackers hit America on 9/11 was because…“They hate our liberty and freedoms!”. Oh yeah, sure that was it. They just couldn’t stand that Americans drank beer and watched football on Sunday’s. But I guess you just ate it all up.
And unless you think I am some “hippie liberal”, I spent two combat tours overseas. When I went over there the first time I remember expecting a bunch of crazy jihadists running around with AK-47’s and decapitating people all the time. It wasn’t like that. Most of the people are poor, they have nothing, they scratch out living doing whatever they can, many are sick and very hungry. The military of these countries are a fucking joke. I had my eyes opened quite a bit.
Now, were there bad people over there? Oh yeah, there was some bad shit that went down and some of my friends got hurt pretty badly. But none of that would have happened if we weren’t over there in the first place.
This “War on Terror” is an unwinnable war. I mean, when exactly do you declare that the war has been won? What is the standard? Answer: You don’t know, and you can never know. It’s like fighting the War on Drugs. It’s not something you can win at. There are no clear cut objectives. There are no standing armies to fight.
And as far as Islam being a threat to West since the 6th century. What are you talking about? When was the last serious threat to West from Islam? Vienna being beseiged by the Ottoman Turks in 1683? And even the Ottoman Empire was a secular Muslim empire and even then it lost most of its military might by the end of the 18th century.
At this point I would also like to point out the obvious to most people, but apparently not you that there are scumbags and psychopaths in any group of people. No race or religion has a monopoly on that.
[/quote]You’ve proved my point again that you don’t know your history. 1683 was the last time Islam posed a threat to the West, huh? Check out American History 101 for a little insight, circa 1795 - 1805.
However your lack of knowledge about history does not impugn your record of service to our country. I greatly appreciate it.
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You mean the Barbary Pirates? Oh yeah, they posed a real threat to America. I mean they could have invaded and just marched on Washington. (Unlike what a western power did at that time, The British) They were a bunch of brigands. They weren’t operating “for the glory of Allah”, and to spread Islam, but for profit and monetary gain. They were PIRATES.
What was casualty total for America, less than a 100? They barely even mention it in history books. Some of the gangs in our country now kill that many people in a week. The thing dragged on for quite some time too. The whole thing was a minor blip in history.
I also find it telling that you have to bring up an event that occurred 2 centuries ago, in North Africa no less, to prove that Islam has been a constant threat to the West. The Barbary Pirates!? Man, you are really reaching.
There hasn’t been a Muslim empire that could have projected enough military force to challenge the West since the Ottoman Turks in their military hay day’s of the 16-17th centuries. And again, the Ottoman’s were pretty westernized themselves. They expanded for the same reason the western powers did at the time, for profit.
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The Barbary Pirates were Islamic terrorists, pure and simple. That is evident in their writings. They terrorized the entire Mediterranean Sea, parts of the Atlantic and parts of the Indian Ocean. You really should have known this before blustering in your ignorance on this thread.
Muslim nations including THE 20TH CENTURY OTTOMAN EMPIRE were actively engaged as allies with Germany in WWI and WWII.
It’s purty easy to school you. There is a huge void to be filled in your head in regards to history.
BTW, do you even know who Charlemagne was? Or do you think he was an Apache chief that rode with Geronimo?[/quote]
By the first world war the Ottomans were a mere shell of what they were. Ever heard of the phrase “The sick man of Europe”. Western nations and Russia were tearing off bits of the Ottoman Empire since the 1700’s. And isn’t that funny the “sick man of EUROPE”, you mean the Western powers considered them part of Europe? How strange.
And what history are you reading? Please tell me in what way did the Barbary Pirates pose a serious, legitimate threat to the West. Oh yeah, I could have just seen the Barbary pirates muster enough military strength to invade England and take over the rest of Europe, then turn towards America and take over that. And wait a minute wasn’t one of their most famous captains a Christian Englishman who converted to Islam on his deathbed? Yeah Captain Jack Ward. And wasn’t most of his crew Englishmen? Like I said, they were PIRATES. They could have given a shit about what religion they were following. They wanted money. They engaged in the slave trade because it was highly lucrative. The same reason the pirates in the caribbean operated. Money.
Enough of this war mongering propaganda. The idea that any Muslim country today could muster enough naval, air, and ground power to invade America is ludicrous. So America engages in preemptive war. Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace. I bought that line of shit when I was 18 years old and didn’t know any better. My God what has America come to.
Keep living in your fantasy world. Keep dividing the world into “good” vs. “evil”, “us” vs. “them”, “black” and “white”. Nothing is ever going to get solved or changed with that type of thinking.
Screw you dude. What kind of statement is that? Kill a whole bunch of people because you don’t like muslims/ Arabs?
Why are you so racist and ignorant? What do you have against Arabs bro?
[quote]NDucedStrength98 wrote:
Why are you so racist and ignorant? What do you have against Arabs bro?[/quote]
i thought this was in GAL, dude i have nothing against the middle east it was a joke you obviously don’t see me post much.
I don’t know much about Jon Voight besides the fact that he’s an actor and is Angelina Jolie’s father (giggity). But I have much more respect for the guy after reading this:
Well honestly bro, thats not something you kid about. I apologize for saying anything to offend you, but you really did offend me. Living in the United States, Muslims/Arabs are constantly being discriminated against, and i thought you were being sincere with that statement; once again, i apologize, but you should not make statements like that.
[quote]NDucedStrength98 wrote:
Well honestly bro, thats not something you kid about. I apologize for saying anything to offend you, but you really did offend me. Living in the United States, Muslims/Arabs are constantly being discriminated against, and i thought you were being sincere with that statement; once again, i apologize, but you should not make statements like that.[/quote]
well i am sorry i offended you, its all good man, i wasnt offended and i only posted it cause i thought i was in GAL.
lets just let bygones be bygones eh?