[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
What if she said she wanted to be spiderwoman?
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You mean Barbie in a costume?
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes, men are attracted to markers of … fertility.
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Youth goes hand in hand with that, but I agree.
The flip side to this is that women are attracted to money / wealth / power / social status. Boys are pressured to succeed, and if they don’t they’re a “failure”. Nice guy is synonymous with loser.
Who has it worse? A small breasted woman or a homeless man? You can fix small tits in a weekend.[/quote]
Hell, there are men who like small tits and a lot do not mind if she has a spectatcular ass, that would be me.
Aint not love out there for homeless guys. [/quote]
I actually feel worse for chicks with small asses than small boobs. You can get implants for boobs. No solution for narrow hips though. Thank god for latinas.[/quote]
You guys, unwittingly, are reinforcing her point.
If a woman is concerned with whether or not other people find her attractive, then everything you’re saying is true.
But the fact is (most) women think about sex/attraction infinitely less than most men. PP is talking about value beyond easy on the eyes. But the issue is, some women don’t feel like the two are separate, they are, but women don’t compartmentalize like men, typically.
That said, the attractiveness of a man plays into societies judgment of them as well, it just isn’t as prevalent or powerful, because men aren’t the sex that is held up as the symbol for beauty in the world, or the givers of life.
Even though neckbeards are looked down upon, there is more pressure on women to “be beautiful”. Whether it is self induced, other women putting on the pressure or society as a whole…
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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lmao, the hulk cracks me up.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes, men are attracted to markers of … fertility.
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Youth goes hand in hand with that, but I agree.
The flip side to this is that women are attracted to money / wealth / power / social status. Boys are pressured to succeed, and if they don’t they’re a “failure”. Nice guy is synonymous with loser.
Who has it worse? A small breasted woman or a homeless man? You can fix small tits in a weekend.[/quote]
Hell, there are men who like small tits and a lot do not mind if she has a spectatcular ass, that would be me.
Aint not love out there for homeless guys. [/quote]
I actually feel worse for chicks with small asses than small boobs. You can get implants for boobs. No solution for narrow hips though. Thank god for latinas.[/quote]
You guys, unwittingly, are reinforcing her point.
If a woman is concerned with whether or not other people find her attractive, then everything you’re saying is true.
But the fact is (most) women think about sex/attraction infinitely less than most men. PP is talking about value beyond easy on the eyes. But the issue is, some women don’t feel like the two are separate, they are, but women don’t compartmentalize like men, typically.
That said, the attractiveness of a man plays into societies judgment of them as well, it just isn’t as prevalent or powerful, because men aren’t the sex that is held up as the symbol for beauty in the world, or the givers of life.
Even though neckbeards are looked down upon, there is more pressure on women to “be beautiful”. Whether it is self induced, other women putting on the pressure or society as a whole… [/quote]
I am wondering what her point actually is.
I am not counting her as one of the feministas who try to dictate what men “should” be attracted to, but the fact of the matter is, being attractive has a high impact on the quality of life of girls and later woman.
Thats how it is and whether you implant the idea early or not, it will be that way.
Now, you can indoctrinate your children that it should not be that way, but you will only create neurotic clusterfucks* who cannot deal with the real world.
Now, should women be all about pleasing the menz? No.
Should they ignore that they have to give in order to get from men? Hell no.
*read, hipster bitches, SJWs and tumblerinas.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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What if I told you… that is EXACTLY how spider man is drawn. Skittering around almost… spider like. And that the only reason you see it as sexist is that you have been conditioned to see it that way by feminist culture.
[quote]orion wrote:
Should they ignore that they have to give in order to get from men? Hell no.
*read, hipster bitches, SJWs and tumblerinas. [/quote]
Give what, to receive what?
Give flashes of thigh to receive a little male attention?
Give blow jobs to receive affection?
Give anal to receive an AMEX Black?
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
What if I told you… that is EXACTLY how spider man is drawn. Skittering around almost… spider like. And that the only reason you see it as sexist is that you have been conditioned to see it that way by feminist culture.[/quote]
Show me one picture where Spiderman is posed like a female cat ready to be mounted and his suit is breaking all known laws of physics by conforming to the inside of his butt cheeks.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Should they ignore that they have to give in order to get from men? Hell no.
*read, hipster bitches, SJWs and tumblerinas. [/quote]
Give what, to receive what?
Give flashes of thigh to receive a little male attention?
Give blow jobs to receive affection?
Give anal to receive an AMEX Black?
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While all of the above would work, it really depends on what they are after.
If they want to be wifed up, none of your examples really work, but at least they provide more value than being the proud owner of a vagina.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
At least you can’t see the outline of his cock from that angle.[/quote]
Ha!
Well, that’s just disturbing. I’m sure that issue sold well among the poofters.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
What if I told you… that is EXACTLY how spider man is drawn. Skittering around almost… spider like. And that the only reason you see it as sexist is that you have been conditioned to see it that way by feminist culture.[/quote]
Show me one picture where Spiderman is posed like a female cat ready to be mounted and his suit is breaking all known laws of physics by conforming to the inside of his butt cheeks.
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I think he just did.
[quote]orion wrote:
I think he just did. [/quote]
Yes he did. It’s certainly an exception, though.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
I think he just did. [/quote]
Yes he did. It’s certainly an exception, though.
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Yes and you know why that is?
Because women are sex objects while men are success objects.
To advertize using a nekkid men tells me nothing about what suit he wears, what jobs he has, what car he drives, what watch he uses…
You know, the markers of success.
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes and you know why that is?
Because women are sex objects while men are success objects.
To advertize using a nekkid men tells me nothing about what suit he wears, what jobs he has, what car he drives, what watch he uses…
You know, the markers of success. [/quote]
I don’t disagree that this is what many (most?) people believe, that their worth is tied to what they can achieve or how good they look.
I try and teach my children otherwise. Not everyone wants to ride on that carousel.
Edit: I think internalizing the idea that your worth is externally determined is the cause of many of the issues we take exception with in women, like BPD, narcissism, solipcism, etc.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes and you know why that is?
Because women are sex objects while men are success objects.
To advertize using a nekkid men tells me nothing about what suit he wears, what jobs he has, what car he drives, what watch he uses…
You know, the markers of success. [/quote]
I don’t disagree that this is what many (most?) people believe, that their worth is tied to what they can achieve or how good they look.
I try and teach my children otherwise. Not everyone wants to ride on that carousel.
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I dont disagree with that, the only thing I am saying is that the carousel does exist and they need to know that.
It wont go away by wishing it did not exist.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes and you know why that is?
Because women are sex objects while men are success objects.
To advertize using a nekkid men tells me nothing about what suit he wears, what jobs he has, what car he drives, what watch he uses…
You know, the markers of success. [/quote]
I don’t disagree that this is what many (most?) people believe, that their worth is tied to what they can achieve or how good they look.
I try and teach my children otherwise. Not everyone wants to ride on that carousel.
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I dont disagree with that, the only thing I am saying is that the carousel does exist and they need to know that.
It wont go away by wishing it did not exist. [/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
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My goodness, but someone’s been squatting!
