[quote]Bob-P wrote:
As the title suggests, Discuss guys and girls.
My view (although will be somewhat limited because 1) I have olny really ever done MMA and 2) I am not very good (newbie) OR experiencd in the sport) -
I think MMA IS the crossfit of fight sports in that it gets the same love/hate response, the same shitty arguements about who did what, when, where, how and if they pissed gold afterwards and that those who do MMA (much like crossfit) just get ‘good’ at MMA but not great at anything.
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The great MMA fighters are great at one thing before they started competing in MMA. Most had great wrestling/BJJ/Muay Thai backgrounds before they started. If you’re talking about beginners who train in “MMA” they usually suck at everything because they haven’t been doing combat sports their entire life. It would be like saying that a football player could never be an olympic sprinter so he is only good at what he does and not great.
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The great MMA fighters are great at one thing before they started competing in MMA. Most had great wrestling/BJJ/Muay Thai backgrounds before they started. If you’re talking about beginners who train in “MMA” they usually suck at everything because they haven’t been doing combat sports their entire life. It would be like saying that a football player could never be an olympic sprinter so he is only good at what he does and not great.[/quote]
What I forgot to put in that post is a possible ‘dumbing down effect’ similar to what is seen with crossfit when they exclaim they get athletes that excel at powerlifting or endurance but suck at others, but after doing crossfit for a while they become more “rounded” but poorer at their original background sport. Do you think that this would apply to MMA with those who have done well at wrestling for example? Do you think they might lose skill in that area but gain in others through such a mixed, less specific (but in terms of MMA, normal and competetive ability in a variety of styles and MA’s -if you can understand that part) or do you think that the skill will never be lost.
This is sort of a “its just like riding as bike, 'cept after a while you can’t do the tricks” question?
EDIT: Do you also think that You have to have done a combat sport since a very young age to do very well in any fight sport? You hear of athletes picking up sports in as late in life as early-mid twenties but still doing incredibly well.
Nothing gets dumbed down in Crossfit, because people who train it are training to get better at it.
But going by your analogy, yes, we’ve already seen it happen, particularly with wrestlers. It’s not ‘dumbing down’ per se, it’s getting better at the sport you’re doing by neglecting aspects of your original sport.
[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
lol, although my comment did come first, I must say the video was hilarious.[/quote]
X2, that guy looks pretty punch drunk too![/quote]
Bernard Hopkins is far from punch drunk. He just loves to talk shit. He’s probably one of the more intelligent fighters out there, in terms of actual IQ.
competing in MMA didn’t stop fedor from being the russian sambo champion for the better part of a decade, OR stop overeem from winning the k-1 grand prix.
[quote]Sliver wrote:
competing in MMA didn’t stop fedor from being the russian sambo champion for the better part of a decade, OR stop overeem from winning the k-1 grand prix.[/quote]
So are you saying that those who have made the transition from a seperate sport into MMA have generally kept or even improved their original sporting skills?
Most fighters don’t just train mma. They train boxing, bjj, and wrestling then work to combine them. Of course with the popularity of the ufc there are more pure mma gyms but, this may just be my experiences though, those fighters are the ones walking around like giant douches and I’ll be damned if I get put into the same group as them. So perhaps those so called mma gyms are the crossfit of the martial arts world but the true fighters that take the time to learn several disciplines and how to combine them are far from the crossfit fighters.
[quote]Nickfury93 wrote:
Most fighters don’t just train mma. They train boxing, bjj, and wrestling then work to combine them. Of course with the popularity of the ufc there are more pure mma gyms but, this may just be my experiences though, those fighters are the ones walking around like giant douches and I’ll be damned if I get put into the same group as them. So perhaps those so called mma gyms are the crossfit of the martial arts world but the true fighters that take the time to learn several disciplines and how to combine them are far from the crossfit fighters. [/quote]
no a lot train mma meaning mma standup etc…
[quote]Nickfury93 wrote:
Most fighters don’t just train mma. They train boxing, bjj, and wrestling then work to combine them. Of course with the popularity of the ufc there are more pure mma gyms but, this may just be my experiences though, those fighters are the ones walking around like giant douches and I’ll be damned if I get put into the same group as them. So perhaps those so called mma gyms are the crossfit of the martial arts world but the true fighters that take the time to learn several disciplines and how to combine them are far from the crossfit fighters. [/quote]
no a lot train mma meaning mma standup etc…[/quote]
Show me some good fighters than train purely mma then.
[quote]Nickfury93 wrote:
Most fighters don’t just train mma. They train boxing, bjj, and wrestling then work to combine them. Of course with the popularity of the ufc there are more pure mma gyms but, this may just be my experiences though, those fighters are the ones walking around like giant douches and I’ll be damned if I get put into the same group as them. So perhaps those so called mma gyms are the crossfit of the martial arts world but the true fighters that take the time to learn several disciplines and how to combine them are far from the crossfit fighters. [/quote]
no a lot train mma meaning mma standup etc…[/quote]
Show me some good fighters than train purely mma then. [/quote]
learn to read first
