The guy openly and clearly explained that he had used steroids, gave some background and tried to contribute to the conversation. You responded by repeating exactly what he had already said and then insulting him.
You think his comments were laughable? Lets be honest about the value of your words.
How did you contribute to anything, other than creating negativity, representing yourself poorly and pushing the conversation off topic?
The guy even tried to talk to you afterward. Why dont you man up and apologize?
We all know the truth behind a LOT of Mentzerās gains. So please stop with the denegrating language, as if you know all these great secrets that elude us hoi polloi. When I said āEarly-Midā, I meant the early-mid part of his courses and teachings, NOT his overall training career (looking at it, he didnāt write those initial chapbooks until he was about 2/3 of the way through his training career)
And yes, I can applaud what Mike said earlier on and dismiss his later (more extreme) ideas, at the same time. Thatās what most reasoning people do ā they donāt simply blindly follow everything one certain person says.
That being said, I cannot simply discard what he said, because 1) he was extremely genetically gifted and 2) on gear. It would be no better than some people here who wanted to disregard YOU for the same reasons! But he was at least giving us better and straighter answers than the Weider Mags ever did [āIronmanā was really good at promulgating a more reasonable approach, but they too got bogged down in Supplement Pushing later onā¦]
I donāt know if I like term ācasualā for myself. I may not be Competition Level Serious, but I am serious and focused as can be every time I enter the gym. And thatās the whole point: We are Casual to Amateur Serious trainers ourselves. Your story of dedication and awards wasnāt Oranges to our Applesā¦It was more like Dragon Fruit, because you are a rarity.
Iām still working full-time (same age as you) and donāt have the luxury of hours in the gym ā even if I wanted to. Most employed working people would feel the same. As it stands, we donāt have as much time to spend with the fam as weād like to, in the first place.
P.S. I may be wrong, but Iād say that less than 1/2 of us practice Whole Body HIT these days. No big deal, I just hate sweeping generalizations as much as you seem to!