Is HCG/AI required for cruising? Can HCG help with fertility? It will be my first time cruising after my Test-Tren-Winny cycle, during which I never used HCG or Adex.
And let me know what other stuff one needs for cruising (I always take supplements, liver protection, etc anyway). Thanks!
HCG is only required if you want to be fertile. AI is only required if you have high E symptoms.
If you don’t care about fertility and dont have high E symptoms, you dont need either.
What’s your cruise protocol?
Thanks! Test E 150/wk
I didn’t use HCG for my current cycle (“blast) tho, is it too late?
No, HCG should restart your natural T production. You are “shut down” currently, but it can be started up again.
Keep in mind HCG will also aromatase pretty significantly so it’s more likely you will have high E symptoms. If you have high E but no symptoms - there is no need for AI though.
No. I can be off it for a year, then use it for 3 weeks and the balls plump up.
There are guys out there that cycle HCG. They don’t want to complicate their TRT / cruise all the time, so once every 6 months or so they do it for a month.
If you want kids in the near future, I’d use it though.
I plan on running it for 6 months before trying for kids (if we try for kids).
I recommend you read this paper. It is a great guide to fertility for steroid users.
No. Yes.
How often would you inject it? Any suggested dosage? Thanks
How often would you inject it? Any suggested dosage? Thanks
I’d probably do every other day or every 3rd day. I’d probably do about 1000-1500 iu per week total. Ball size maintenance on TRT doesn’t require as much. When I was using it for ball size, I think I was doing 200 iu EOD, and that worked. For fertility, I’d go a bit higher.
I’ve never been on HCG and only know what others have said, but I believe standard HPTA restart protocol is 500mg 3x per week, up to 1000mg 3x per week.
If you want to read more
IU not mg.
Typical concentration upon reconstitution is 1000 IU per mL. So 0.5 mL would yield 500 IU. Of course you can set concentration higher or lower.
Good catch
About 16 000 IU per mg in above reference on synthesis of reference material.
Now you can estimate how many mg of hCG is in those lyophilized powder vials that come with the bacteriostatic water.
Fwiw, fertility docs will do the latter dosage. Defy (Mike) told me that he didn’t like going over 2000 iu a week. He was worried about receptor desensitization in the testicles. IDK if that’s valid, but if doing it on my own, I wouldn’t go over 2000 iu. I think past that, for most is diminishing returns anyways.