Is Football Inherently Flawed?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the idea of regression in sports is laughable…because the only people who really want this either hate sports or they happen to be politicians who want the vote of the average soccer mom who is scared her son will lose his head playing after school flag football.

Solution?

Allow implants and steroids.

Head implants and more sophisticated head gear will decrease concussions and who wouldn’t tune in to see 2020’s version of a running back with a bionic arm who is all of 5’10" but weighs a solid 310lbs with abs?

[/quote]

Please don’t lump me in with the soccer mom crowd or the pro-regression in sports crowd. My children will never play soccer, no matter what.

But I disagree about your statement regarding who wants to see this happen. Sure, soccer moms and politicians with nothing better to do want to see changes, but so do A LOT of current and former players. I don’t think they necessarily want to see the game watered down, but they do want to see improvements made in the ability to prevent and treat concussions, which is why a lot of former and current players are donating their brains to medical studies addressing these issues.

My point is, or my question is, is it really possible to alleviate these concerns in a satisfactory manner without “watering down” the game?[/quote]

The problem with the vein this discussion is already heading is that it’s not limited to a “concussion” problem. It’s a head contact problem. Repeated blows to the head, even those that do not produce a concussion, can lead to brain damage. What one person can tolerate, the next may not. While one sufficient blow may result in brain damage to one person, another may be able to tolerate many more before suffering damage.

I guess this makes me a soccer mom because I will definitely steer my son to basketball, baseball, track, wrestling, etc. [/quote]

How old is your son?

Has there been consideration as to him, at say 10 years old absolutely BEGGING you to play football?

I have a 10 month old son, and I’m curious.

I played football through high school then played full contact for a few years in the Military. I think I’m going to find it difficult be “hands off” and let him decide what he wants to do because I know my tendency is going to be for me to steer him in that direction since that what I know and what I love. Know what I mean? His mom and I already decided to not let him suit up for full contact until he’s in 8th grade. We’ll see.

I don’t want to hyjack this thread into a fathering debate, just curious.
[/quote]

My youngest son is 5. The other two are “grown”. He has mentioned football, among some other sports. I will not be letting him play football. And I am not generally overprotective. I’ll just steer him to other sports. I played basketball and I was “hands off” with my older two boys, not even steering them to basketball. They played what they wished to play (I didn’t want to be THAT ex-sports star dad, or THAT dad in general). In fact, my middle son played some high school football. But I didn’t know then what I know now. [/quote]

I imagine as long as your son doesn’t go pro or play at a D1 school, he should be fine. I played football for 10 years and didn’t have 1 concussion, thankfully. It starts with teaching proper form. If you are keeping a sharp eye on your son’s tackling form, he should be fine. Different story at the pro level though.

With that said i do remember a few kids getting concussions throughout the years. Only two relatively serious ones if remember correctly. And I am not sure if they were due to poor tackling/hitting form or something else

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Personally, as a current high school football player, I have noticed gargantuan differences between the safety rules in NFL and high school. As stated before, we can no longer horsecollar tackle.

I have been playing football for 9 years, all of them full contact. Over those 9 years, I have suffered 4 documented concussions, and God only knows how many others I have had. Last week, I suffered my first “severe” concussion in which I couldn’t remember where I was, how I got there, or what the fuck I was doing. I suffered it on a Wednesday and couldn’t remember the past Monday, Tuesday, 90% of that day, and had trouble remembering that Thursday and that Friday. And now, I still can’t remember what the fuck happened last week.

Anyways, I think the NFL is turning into a pussy league. Not calling anybody in the league a pussy (Well maybe the kickers and punters, but with 2 or 3 exceptions) because let’s face it, they’re in the NFL for a reason. I’m 16, but I love to watch old films of the NFL in the old days, especially when guys like Ronnie Lott, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus and Chuck Cecil were playing. They played with reckless abandon and didn’t care if they hurt themselves or anybody else for that matter. That’s the way I play and that’s the way I think everybody else should play. Dirty or clean hits, I don’t care. It’s football. People are going to get hurt and there’s no way around it unless you ban the sport entirely.

Luke

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Personally, as a current high school football player, I have noticed gargantuan differences between the safety rules in NFL and high school. As stated before, we can no longer horsecollar tackle.

I have been playing football for 9 years, all of them full contact. Over those 9 years, I have suffered 4 documented concussions, and God only knows how many others I have had. Last week, I suffered my first “severe” concussion in which I couldn’t remember where I was, how I got there, or what the fuck I was doing. I suffered it on a Wednesday and couldn’t remember the past Monday, Tuesday, 90% of that day, and had trouble remembering that Thursday and that Friday. And now, I still can’t remember what the fuck happened last week.

Anyways, I think the NFL is turning into a pussy league. Not calling anybody in the league a pussy (Well maybe the kickers and punters, but with 2 or 3 exceptions) because let’s face it, they’re in the NFL for a reason. I’m 16, but I love to watch old films of the NFL in the old days, especially when guys like Ronnie Lott, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus and Chuck Cecil were playing. They played with reckless abandon and didn’t care if they hurt themselves or anybody else for that matter. That’s the way I play and that’s the way I think everybody else should play. Dirty or clean hits, I don’t care. It’s football. People are going to get hurt and there’s no way around it unless you ban the sport entirely.

Luke[/quote]

lol. I am sure you have gotten 4 concussions because you suck at tackling/hitting properly. As for your whole man up and play with reckless abandon attitude… Enjoy brain dmg and an early death.

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[quote]TD54 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the idea of regression in sports is laughable…because the only people who really want this either hate sports or they happen to be politicians who want the vote of the average soccer mom who is scared her son will lose his head playing after school flag football.

Solution?

Allow implants and steroids.

Head implants and more sophisticated head gear will decrease concussions and who wouldn’t tune in to see 2020’s version of a running back with a bionic arm who is all of 5’10" but weighs a solid 310lbs with abs?

[/quote]

Please don’t lump me in with the soccer mom crowd or the pro-regression in sports crowd. My children will never play soccer, no matter what.

But I disagree about your statement regarding who wants to see this happen. Sure, soccer moms and politicians with nothing better to do want to see changes, but so do A LOT of current and former players. I don’t think they necessarily want to see the game watered down, but they do want to see improvements made in the ability to prevent and treat concussions, which is why a lot of former and current players are donating their brains to medical studies addressing these issues.

My point is, or my question is, is it really possible to alleviate these concerns in a satisfactory manner without “watering down” the game?[/quote]

The problem with the vein this discussion is already heading is that it’s not limited to a “concussion” problem. It’s a head contact problem. Repeated blows to the head, even those that do not produce a concussion, can lead to brain damage. What one person can tolerate, the next may not. While one sufficient blow may result in brain damage to one person, another may be able to tolerate many more before suffering damage.

I guess this makes me a soccer mom because I will definitely steer my son to basketball, baseball, track, wrestling, etc. [/quote]

How old is your son?

Has there been consideration as to him, at say 10 years old absolutely BEGGING you to play football?

I have a 10 month old son, and I’m curious.

I played football through high school then played full contact for a few years in the Military. I think I’m going to find it difficult be “hands off” and let him decide what he wants to do because I know my tendency is going to be for me to steer him in that direction since that what I know and what I love. Know what I mean? His mom and I already decided to not let him suit up for full contact until he’s in 8th grade. We’ll see.

I don’t want to hyjack this thread into a fathering debate, just curious.
[/quote]

My youngest son is 5. The other two are “grown”. He has mentioned football, among some other sports. I will not be letting him play football. And I am not generally overprotective. I’ll just steer him to other sports. I played basketball and I was “hands off” with my older two boys, not even steering them to basketball. They played what they wished to play (I didn’t want to be THAT ex-sports star dad, or THAT dad in general). In fact, my middle son played some high school football. But I didn’t know then what I know now. [/quote]

I imagine as long as your son doesn’t go pro or play at a D1 school, he should be fine. I played football for 10 years and didn’t have 1 concussion, thankfully. It starts with teaching proper form. If you are keeping a sharp eye on your son’s tackling form, he should be fine. Different story at the pro level though.

With that said i do remember a few kids getting concussions throughout the years. Only two relatively serious ones if remember correctly. And I am not sure if they were due to poor tackling/hitting form or something else[/quote]

With all due respect, I think you’re misinformed. It’s NOT just a matter of concussions, even though those have gotten all the recent press. The issue is also (in addition to concussions) cumulative blows, the same you’d see in boxing and, as I mentioned even earlier even something as apparently benign as “heading” the soccer ball. And apparently, some people have a tolerance to blows to the head, and other do not (think in terms of boxers - there is no clear rhyme or reason to those that suffer later brain damage; those that you think should, sometimes don’t, and vice versa; one fight can do it, 20 years of fights can do it, or 20 years walk away unscathed). There is no way (now) to predict.

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Personally, as a current high school football player, I have noticed gargantuan differences between the safety rules in NFL and high school. As stated before, we can no longer horsecollar tackle.

I have been playing football for 9 years, all of them full contact. Over those 9 years, I have suffered 4 documented concussions, and God only knows how many others I have had. Last week, I suffered my first “severe” concussion in which I couldn’t remember where I was, how I got there, or what the fuck I was doing. I suffered it on a Wednesday and couldn’t remember the past Monday, Tuesday, 90% of that day, and had trouble remembering that Thursday and that Friday. And now, I still can’t remember what the fuck happened last week.

Anyways, I think the NFL is turning into a pussy league. Not calling anybody in the league a pussy (Well maybe the kickers and punters, but with 2 or 3 exceptions) because let’s face it, they’re in the NFL for a reason. I’m 16, but I love to watch old films of the NFL in the old days, especially when guys like Ronnie Lott, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus and Chuck Cecil were playing. They played with reckless abandon and didn’t care if they hurt themselves or anybody else for that matter. That’s the way I play and that’s the way I think everybody else should play. Dirty or clean hits, I don’t care. It’s football. People are going to get hurt and there’s no way around it unless you ban the sport entirely.

Luke[/quote]

Lol this post was a paradox. If you’re trying to argue against safety measures that you perceive are “pussifying” the NFL why would you spend the majority of your post discussing your own health ailments caused by playing football, especially when they seem to be serious at a minor level of competition of the sport.

Take this from a stranger on the internet, don’t fuck yourself up for no reason. You’re coming off as cocky from your post and trying to sound like a tough guy. I don’t classify bruising your brain as something to be proud of. This site and these forums are dedicated to taking care of your body and making it stronger - don’t think you’re going to get any “points” because you treat concussions as just side effect of playing football. Your brain is the most important part of you, why the fuck would you not want to take care of it?

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I think generally speaking most people like to see the huge hits, but they don’t like to see players get carted off the field on a stretcher. I’m not sure those two mindsets are compatible, and I’m not sure what the answer is. I do know that when I was playing football in grade 12, there was a grade 11 kid on the team who if memory serves had just started playing in grade 10. It was the first week of practice, and I was doing a drill that he was in too. He made a good block, nothing spectacular, but it was well executed with some good contact. Shortly afterwards he started exhibiting signs of a severe concussion. The trainers immediately called an ambulance. If memory serves he died and was brought back on the ride to the hospital. He never regained consciousness. His parents pulled the plug six days later.

Now I know that was a freak incident and it has certainly never deterred me from using my head when I wrestled or played football, hockey or rugby. But going to that funeral and wearing another kid’s initials on my jersey for a season is all I can think about while I’m reading this thread.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think the idea of regression in sports is laughable…because the only people who really want this either hate sports or they happen to be politicians who want the vote of the average soccer mom who is scared her son will lose his head playing after school flag football.

Solution?

Allow implants and steroids.

Head implants and more sophisticated head gear will decrease concussions and who wouldn’t tune in to see 2020’s version of a running back with a bionic arm who is all of 5’10" but weighs a solid 310lbs with abs?

[/quote]

Please don’t lump me in with the soccer mom crowd or the pro-regression in sports crowd. My children will never play soccer, no matter what.

But I disagree about your statement regarding who wants to see this happen. Sure, soccer moms and politicians with nothing better to do want to see changes, but so do A LOT of current and former players. I don’t think they necessarily want to see the game watered down, but they do want to see improvements made in the ability to prevent and treat concussions, which is why a lot of former and current players are donating their brains to medical studies addressing these issues.

My point is, or my question is, is it really possible to alleviate these concerns in a satisfactory manner without “watering down” the game?[/quote]

Just to let you know “soccer mum” is a term that was made up in your country, whos culture has no understanding of the finesse and beauty of real football.

Carry on bumping your heads together.

/thread

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[quote]cubuff2028 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I had an interesting conversation about this very topic over the weekend. I should preface all of this by stating that I am a huge football fan, so in no way is this the ranting of someone with a strong biased against the game.

Basically, is football fatally flawed in its current format and given (some of) our expectations for the game? I’m talking about concussions. It seems like every year players are getting bigger, stronger, faster and more freakish, all things that widely increase the game’s appeal. Who doesn’t like watching a 6’3" 260lb linebacker who runs a 4.4 40 chasing down a bowling ball-shaped running back with the ability to stop, start, accelerate and change direction like an all-wheel drive Porsche?

But the human brain is incapable of better handling the huge, violent impacts that occur on a regular basis. As the league becomes more and more concerned with the severity of the brain damage suffered by its players, is there any way that football can last without changing the rules drastically to cut down on these injuries, and will these possible changes “water down” the game to the point where it loses its appeal to us?

Also, given that there are only 16 games and there are literally millions and millions of dollars riding on the outcome of each one, is this another fatal flaw? Is the increasing emphasis on getting every call right placing an undue importance on the performance of the referees in relation to the players’ performance?

Would football be better off if it revised the rules about tackling to the point where the big-time collisions we love to see are eliminated? Would it be better if perhaps the season’s schedule was changed so they played twice a week under these new rules and played 32, maybe even 40 games, a year so that there isn’t such import placed on each and every possible game-changing call?[/quote]

leather helmets. really. players will stop using it as a weapon right away.
[/quote]

Why not no helmets, like rugby?

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[quote]rugggby wrote:

[quote]cubuff2028 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I had an interesting conversation about this very topic over the weekend. I should preface all of this by stating that I am a huge football fan, so in no way is this the ranting of someone with a strong biased against the game.

Basically, is football fatally flawed in its current format and given (some of) our expectations for the game? I’m talking about concussions. It seems like every year players are getting bigger, stronger, faster and more freakish, all things that widely increase the game’s appeal. Who doesn’t like watching a 6’3" 260lb linebacker who runs a 4.4 40 chasing down a bowling ball-shaped running back with the ability to stop, start, accelerate and change direction like an all-wheel drive Porsche?

But the human brain is incapable of better handling the huge, violent impacts that occur on a regular basis. As the league becomes more and more concerned with the severity of the brain damage suffered by its players, is there any way that football can last without changing the rules drastically to cut down on these injuries, and will these possible changes “water down” the game to the point where it loses its appeal to us?

Also, given that there are only 16 games and there are literally millions and millions of dollars riding on the outcome of each one, is this another fatal flaw? Is the increasing emphasis on getting every call right placing an undue importance on the performance of the referees in relation to the players’ performance?

Would football be better off if it revised the rules about tackling to the point where the big-time collisions we love to see are eliminated? Would it be better if perhaps the season’s schedule was changed so they played twice a week under these new rules and played 32, maybe even 40 games, a year so that there isn’t such import placed on each and every possible game-changing call?[/quote]

leather helmets. really. players will stop using it as a weapon right away.
[/quote]

Why not no helmets, like rugby?
[/quote]

It would be a completely different game without helmets. Also, a leather helmet isn’t really going to do much to protect you from a blunt force trauma to the head.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]someguyyy wrote:
I think I’m echoing a ton of the statements already expressed, but I don’t think the game needs changed or revamped or anything.

By the time I was 16 I had concussions and broken fingers and a toe, and crushed a vertebrae. Would I do it over again? Yes. Did I know this was happening to me before it happened? No. I loved the game, and still play flag football (because I dont really have time to go out and make the time to be in an actual pad-league.)

I have worn all three of those helmets you just showed… the old one for the first two years, one of those Schutt (we called them ‘DNAs’) and the Riddell (Revolution) helmets… and I came from a high school with a graduating class of 57. In small town Arkansas. If we had access to them, you better believe they are available everywhere, it’s just a matter of priorities. As a little skinny high school player, I used to spear people, blindside tackle people, hit the knees, anything and everything to make the play. And you better believe that if I weren’t 130 pounds but 230, I would have hurt more people… the helmet doesn’t make you a impervious to injuries, just to the off chance of getting a concussion in certain types of collisions.

There are a lot of cliches that fit but ‘it’s not a game it’s a lifestyle’ seems to fit… if you’re an elite level athlete your mindset is undoubtedly different than the rest of us average joes. And I betcha a shiny nickel none of those players feel the same kind of concern that you guys do… to them it’s a job, it’s their life, it’s not a game… they just go out and do their thing. Making a stadium erupt is an awesome feeling (There are few feelings better than watching the home crowd erupt after a huge open field tackle). I don’t see the game changing unless more and more liberals decide how unsafe it is to hit someone. Most of them haven’t played the game and are just going off the statistics on a page.[/quote]

Is the NFL going to see a slow drain of talent due to the increasing concern that parents like the BodyGuard may have about their children’s health and safety?[/quote]

No, I think you are not taking into the effect the very, very small % of people that actually make it into the NFL. Because what is the % of people in the NFL that are from middle class and above households?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:

[quote]cubuff2028 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I had an interesting conversation about this very topic over the weekend. I should preface all of this by stating that I am a huge football fan, so in no way is this the ranting of someone with a strong biased against the game.

Basically, is football fatally flawed in its current format and given (some of) our expectations for the game? I’m talking about concussions. It seems like every year players are getting bigger, stronger, faster and more freakish, all things that widely increase the game’s appeal. Who doesn’t like watching a 6’3" 260lb linebacker who runs a 4.4 40 chasing down a bowling ball-shaped running back with the ability to stop, start, accelerate and change direction like an all-wheel drive Porsche?

But the human brain is incapable of better handling the huge, violent impacts that occur on a regular basis. As the league becomes more and more concerned with the severity of the brain damage suffered by its players, is there any way that football can last without changing the rules drastically to cut down on these injuries, and will these possible changes “water down” the game to the point where it loses its appeal to us?

Also, given that there are only 16 games and there are literally millions and millions of dollars riding on the outcome of each one, is this another fatal flaw? Is the increasing emphasis on getting every call right placing an undue importance on the performance of the referees in relation to the players’ performance?

Would football be better off if it revised the rules about tackling to the point where the big-time collisions we love to see are eliminated? Would it be better if perhaps the season’s schedule was changed so they played twice a week under these new rules and played 32, maybe even 40 games, a year so that there isn’t such import placed on each and every possible game-changing call?[/quote]

leather helmets. really. players will stop using it as a weapon right away.
[/quote]

Why not no helmets, like rugby?
[/quote]

It would be a completely different game without helmets. Also, a leather helmet isn’t really going to do much to protect you from a blunt force trauma to the head.[/quote]

I thought that’s what this discussion was about?

I don’t think you can have the same sport without all the dangers associated with it. I know first hand if rugby players wore helmets, the hits would be ridiculous. You have to be brave to tackle, but if you have a helmet on, the mental aspect would be lessened in my opinion, leading to heavier hits. Obv this isn’t possible in rugby due to the technical aspects of the game.

What I’ve noticed is there are a lot of missed tackles in the NFL due to poor tackling technique, because of looking for the big hit. If helmets were removed, I think technique would take over, namely tackling the legs. But like you say, it would be a different game.

I’ve suffered concussion a few times- being kicked in the face full pelt, colliding with another person whilst tackling someone else… but not from head on head collisions.

There have been a quite a few paralysed players from being in the scrum, though.

Sorry if that was off topic, I’ve only skimmed through the thread.

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[quote]rugggby wrote:

I’ve suffered concussion a few times- being kicked in the face full pelt, colliding with another person whilst tackling someone else… but not from head on head collisions.

There have been a quite a few paralysed players from being in the scrum, though.

Sorry if that was off topic, I’ve only skimmed through the thread.[/quote]

Lads have died from scrum/ruck/maul injuries:

http://forum.leinsterfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10865&start=0

When the scrum collapses the props and hooker in particular are in danger of cervical fracture.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:

I’ve suffered concussion a few times- being kicked in the face full pelt, colliding with another person whilst tackling someone else… but not from head on head collisions.

There have been a quite a few paralysed players from being in the scrum, though.

Sorry if that was off topic, I’ve only skimmed through the thread.[/quote]

Lads have died from scrum/ruck/maul injuries:

http://forum.leinsterfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10865&start=0

When the scrum collapses the props and hooker in particular are in danger of cervical fracture.[/quote]

I dunno if this was in agreement of my post mate or what?

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[quote]rugggby wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:

I’ve suffered concussion a few times- being kicked in the face full pelt, colliding with another person whilst tackling someone else… but not from head on head collisions.

There have been a quite a few paralysed players from being in the scrum, though.

Sorry if that was off topic, I’ve only skimmed through the thread.[/quote]

Lads have died from scrum/ruck/maul injuries:

http://forum.leinsterfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10865&start=0

When the scrum collapses the props and hooker in particular are in danger of cervical fracture.[/quote]

I dunno if this was in agreement of my post mate or what?

[/quote]

Yes, agreement. Scrums are dangerous.

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Yeah the front row go to dark places… over 700kg from both sides going through their necks. I’m surprised there isn’t more injuries.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]someguyyy wrote:
I think I’m echoing a ton of the statements already expressed, but I don’t think the game needs changed or revamped or anything.

By the time I was 16 I had concussions and broken fingers and a toe, and crushed a vertebrae. Would I do it over again? Yes. Did I know this was happening to me before it happened? No. I loved the game, and still play flag football (because I dont really have time to go out and make the time to be in an actual pad-league.)

I have worn all three of those helmets you just showed… the old one for the first two years, one of those Schutt (we called them ‘DNAs’) and the Riddell (Revolution) helmets… and I came from a high school with a graduating class of 57. In small town Arkansas. If we had access to them, you better believe they are available everywhere, it’s just a matter of priorities. As a little skinny high school player, I used to spear people, blindside tackle people, hit the knees, anything and everything to make the play. And you better believe that if I weren’t 130 pounds but 230, I would have hurt more people… the helmet doesn’t make you a impervious to injuries, just to the off chance of getting a concussion in certain types of collisions.

There are a lot of cliches that fit but ‘it’s not a game it’s a lifestyle’ seems to fit… if you’re an elite level athlete your mindset is undoubtedly different than the rest of us average joes. And I betcha a shiny nickel none of those players feel the same kind of concern that you guys do… to them it’s a job, it’s their life, it’s not a game… they just go out and do their thing. Making a stadium erupt is an awesome feeling (There are few feelings better than watching the home crowd erupt after a huge open field tackle). I don’t see the game changing unless more and more liberals decide how unsafe it is to hit someone. Most of them haven’t played the game and are just going off the statistics on a page.[/quote]

Is the NFL going to see a slow drain of talent due to the increasing concern that parents like the BodyGuard may have about their children’s health and safety?[/quote]

No, I think you are not taking into the effect the very, very small % of people that actually make it into the NFL. Because what is the % of people in the NFL that are from middle class and above households? [/quote]

I don’t know, but I’m sure it isn’t as small a percentage as you’d think. Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb and Steve Young might know.

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[quote]rugggby wrote:
Yeah the front row go to dark places… over 700kg from both sides going through their necks. I’m surprised there isn’t more injuries.[/quote]

Its all down to team and ref discipline. Touch…pause…engage.

Thats also why collapsed scrums and failing to bind properly are heavily punished by penalties.

Which shows whats lacking in football…technique and discipline.

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[quote]Think tank fish wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:
Yeah the front row go to dark places… over 700kg from both sides going through their necks. I’m surprised there isn’t more injuries.[/quote]

Which shows whats lacking in football…technique and discipline.[/quote]

Really? So you think that a billionaire team owner is going to pay a guy millions of dollars a year cause he has bad technique and discipline? Or the running back or wide receiver for trying to allude the tackle?

What I think internet warriors fail to realize is that none of us could play in the NFL, do not even delude yourself. And if you have not seen a game live then your opinion doesn’t mean anything.

Like I will not comment on rugby or Australian football, I have not seen it live.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Think tank fish wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:
Yeah the front row go to dark places… over 700kg from both sides going through their necks. I’m surprised there isn’t more injuries.[/quote]

Which shows whats lacking in football…technique and discipline.[/quote]

Really? So you think that a billionaire team owner is going to pay a guy millions of dollars a year cause he has bad technique and discipline? Or the running back or wide receiver for trying to allude the tackle?

What I think internet warriors fail to realize is that none of us could play in the NFL, do not even delude yourself. And if you have not seen a game live then your opinion doesn’t mean anything.

Like I will not comment on rugby or Australian football, I have not seen it live. [/quote]

I know I didn’t write that, but I didn’t want to bring rugby into it to make it into a NFL v rugby, which turns into a America vs England YouTube shitfest like that comment might make it. NFL obv has skill and technique.

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
Last week, I suffered my first “severe” concussion in which I couldn’t remember where I was, how I got there, or what the fuck I was doing. I suffered it on a Wednesday and couldn’t remember the past Monday, Tuesday, 90% of that day, and had trouble remembering that Thursday and that Friday. And now, I still can’t remember what the fuck happened last week.

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LOL…I had one concussion in my JR year. All the team called me “bill” because of it. I had to go to school the next day with my class schedule to help me find where I was and where I needed to go.

All my teachers had an individual note with my schedule and explanation…and helped me to my next class. I knew I had Biology, but the time and rooms in my mind were mixed up.

2 days I was good to go.

people who ply in the pros KNOW the RISK and are paid handsomely for it. Change these rules of football, and I might be able to actually play in the pros myself!

"I’m 5 foot nothin, a hundred and nothin, and without an ounce of athletic talent. I hung with the best football team in the nation…