I have read that eating this reverse the Catabolic state your bodys enters during sleep?
I am weighing 78kg and my goal is to drop body fat and gain lean muscle, I know how important it is to feed the body during sleep. But I don’t want to be stopping my body burning fat.
Should I continue eating this protein source?
And what other Bed time protein sources are good?
Having the right nutrients on hand during sleeping hours in HUGE in regard to building and maintaining LBM. I use Cottage Cheese a lot before bed. By itself, I’ll add some Splenda and Cinnamon, if I need cals but low carbs, I add cashews, and if I can have whatever I want, I’ll add some Banana Metabolic Drive with a few cashews and cinnamon on top.
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Thanks man I have now ordered a milk protein Isolate it has 0.4g of fat and 1.9g of Carbs and its 80% casein 20% whey. I think that will be the better alternative
By adding fiber, such as ground flax or chia seeds, and vegetables you also slow down the absorbption.
“And what other Bed time protein sources are good?”
ANY high quality protein.
BTW, I’d really like to see some evidence of ‘the catabolic state’ the body enters upon sleep without amino acids.
Thanks
And yeah I was online when I came across reading that eating this will reverse the effects of the body’s catobolic state. I just don’t want to lose any fat burning potential but I need to make sure I have a good bed time protein
[quote]leecully wrote:
Thanks
And yeah I was online when I came across reading that eating this will reverse the effects of the body’s catobolic state. I just don’t want to lose any fat burning potential but I need to make sure I have a good bed time protein [/quote]
Unless you’re sleeping for 16+ hours, you will be fine.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]leecully wrote:
Thanks
And yeah I was online when I came across reading that eating this will reverse the effects of the body’s catobolic state. I just don’t want to lose any fat burning potential but I need to make sure I have a good bed time protein [/quote]
Unless you’re sleeping for 16+ hours, you will be fine.[/quote]
Thanks man.
Here’s what I have pre-bed:
Some cottage cheese (1-2c?) (slow protein + fat)
Some natural peanut butter (couple Tbs) (fat + yummy)
1 tsb of cinnamon (yummy + might improve insulin sensitivity)
Couple Tbs of ground flax (fiber)
Mix all this together and you get an unholy looking glop that’s pretty tasty. Mess with the ratios until you get it the way you want it.
[quote]MrToad wrote:
Here’s what I have pre-bed:
Some cottage cheese (1-2c?) (slow protein + fat)
Some natural peanut butter (couple Tbs) (fat + yummy)
1 tsb of cinnamon (yummy + might improve insulin sensitivity)
Couple Tbs of ground flax (fiber)
Mix all this together and you get an unholy looking glop that’s pretty tasty. Mess with the ratios until you get it the way you want it.
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Wouldn’t this b bad for trying to reduce my body fat thou
The “catabolic state” thing is bullshit. As if you had muscle wasting during sleep or missing breakfast here and there.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
The “catabolic state” thing is bullshit. As if you had muscle wasting during sleep or missing breakfast here and there. [/quote]
Yeah. Don’t trip on the “catabolic state” BS. If your goal is fat loss, there’s more evidence against cottage cheese at night then for it. Focus your attention elsewhere.
Cottage cheese is fucking gross. I know it’s great for you. But it’s gross. I tried it once, nearly puked immediately.
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
The “catabolic state” thing is bullshit. As if you had muscle wasting during sleep or missing breakfast here and there. [/quote]
Yeah. Don’t trip on the “catabolic state” BS. If your goal is fat loss, there’s more evidence against cottage cheese at night then for it. Focus your attention elsewhere.[/quote]
So ditch the cottage cheese?
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Yeah. Don’t trip on the “catabolic state” BS. If your goal is fat loss, there’s more evidence against cottage cheese at night then for it. Focus your attention elsewhere.[/quote]
What is the “evidence” against consuming cottage cheese?
I’m personally not a fan of it’s taste/texture, but I see no reason why one shouldn’t eat it if it fits within their dietary profile.
[quote]leecully wrote:
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
The “catabolic state” thing is bullshit. As if you had muscle wasting during sleep or missing breakfast here and there. [/quote]
Yeah. Don’t trip on the “catabolic state” BS. If your goal is fat loss, there’s more evidence against cottage cheese at night then for it. Focus your attention elsewhere.[/quote]
So ditch the cottage cheese?[/quote]
I mean, eat it if it fits within the confines of your diet. I just mean, don’t add it at the end of the day just 'cause u feel like you need to get that night time protein. I’m not saying there’s anything inherently terrible about cottage cheese in particular, besides the lactose, of which there isn’t that much.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Cottage cheese is fucking gross. I know it’s great for you. But it’s gross. I tried it once, nearly puked immediately.[/quote]
You couldn’t be more wrong! It’s HEAVENLY.
Cottage cheese is awesome, If i’m really sore and i eat a whole tub before i hit the sack im good to go in the morning (most of the time, it always helps).
It would be stupid to ignore pre bed food, who cares if you don’t believe in sleep causing a catabolic state?
We want optimal recovery not minimal. Just eat your cottage cheese, you’ll know if it’s working or not…not anybody else sitting from their computers miles away.
[quote]K-Man32 wrote:
Cottage cheese is awesome, If i’m really sore and i eat a whole tub before i hit the sack im good to go in the morning (most of the time, it always helps).
It would be stupid to ignore pre bed food, who cares if you don’t believe in sleep causing a catabolic state?
We want optimal recovery not minimal. Just eat your cottage cheese, you’ll know if it’s working or not…not anybody else sitting from their computers miles away.[/quote]
No significant gluconeogenesis occurs during shorter (8 up to even 16 hours) periods of fasting. If you’re eating an adequate amount of calories and protein during the day, what do you think happens to it when you go to bed? Do you think that the body instantly digests everything you eat and if it’s not needed immediately, disposes of it somehow? Moderately large meals take far longer than 2-3 hours to digest and, given adequate intake during the day, there really is probably not a need to consume any special type of protein before bed as ongoing digestion of that day’s food (which, IIRC, actually slows down while you sleep) will continue to supply your body with nutrients. If you’re interested in maximizing recovery, your three best bets are 1) eating enough food, 2) getting enough sleep, 3) optimizing endocrinological profile either through commercially available products or steroids. You probably recover better after eating a whole tub of cottage cheese before bed because you’re eating an additional 300-600 calories by doing so.
The “catabolic state” thing is bullshit cooked up by companies trying to sell protein powders. Just another angle.