Is Clean Bulking w/out Creatine Pointless?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
shoobey wrote:
jCaesar88 wrote:
LOLLLLL you don’t know how to bulk OR cut. Just stay quiet… actually no, go on, humor me
waits for “oh yeah? so YOU know how to cut and bulk???”

why do you assume I don’t know how to cut? Just because I am not sure how to bulk doesn’t mean I am not sure how to cut? I don’t think that knowing how to lose fat automatically means you know how to build muscle, but I do consider myself to be pretty educated on how to lose fat while retaining muscle based on what I did for my own cut

You are ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY pounds. What do your mean but I do consider myself to be pretty educated on how to lose fat while retaining muscle?

Unless you are 4’10" you didn’t retain shit.[/quote]

I was 190 lbs eight months ago.

Cueball i don’t see any pix. link me to the pix you used. i can’t see any pix in his profile
Then we’ll talk. (even though i have things to say already, but i feel that it’s necessary to see which pix you used)

[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
Cueball i don’t see any pix. link me to the pix you used. i can’t see any pix in his profile
Then we’ll talk. (even though i have things to say already, but i feel that it’s necessary to see which pix you used)[/quote]

Yeah. Pics aren’t loading right again.

Here’s shoobey

Here is you: the second pic

[quote]shoobey wrote:

I was 190 lbs eight months ago.
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See my edit. I’m not trying to demean the weight loss, I’m just trying to communicate how ridiculous you sound at 140lbs worry about clean & dirty, muscles retained and blah blah blah.

You are thinking WAY too much man. Just ease back and do this thing. Everything will start to make sense soon enough.

[quote]shoobey wrote:
I was 190 lbs eight months ago.
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LOLLLLL
How tall are you?

[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
shoobey wrote:
I was 190 lbs eight months ago.

LOLLLLL
How tall are you?[/quote]

Seriously, dude. You really have no room to talk. Shoobey is 5’7" 140. You are 6’1" 162. You are 5 INCHES taller. But you are only a little over 20lbs heavier with more body fat. What exactly are you laughing at?

[quote]cueball wrote:
jCaesar88 wrote:
Cueball i don’t see any pix. link me to the pix you used. i can’t see any pix in his profile
Then we’ll talk. (even though i have things to say already, but i feel that it’s necessary to see which pix you used)

Yeah. Pics aren’t loading right again.

Here’s shoobey

Here is you: the second pic

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Cool. Fair enough. What you see there in my second pic is someone who pretty much never lifted weights and went from 175 to 144 by stupid dieting. Looks bad? Yes. Stupid? Absolutely!
Point is, that he’s making himself to be bodybuilding demi-god and won’t take the advice given. I was like that for about 5 whole days, then i realized that these guys are right and wanna help. I’m at 171lbs right now(nope, not posting pix till I’m at least 190) and i’m actually lifting some shit now. Is my physique impressive? Not by a longshot.

The point I’m trying to make is that he’s worrying about his “hawt abz” wayyy too fucking much. But then again now then I really think about it, who am I to judge? I NEVER had visible abs. i was skinny-fat since I can remember.
But yes, based on those 2 pix, you are more than correct when you say that he knows more than I do. What’s true is true.
(shit that was a lot of typing, sorry if I’m all over the place)

[quote] Brook wrote:

Jesus fucked my hole.[/quote]

bwhwhahaha

[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
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Cool. Fair enough. What you see there in my second pic is someone who pretty much never lifted weights and went from 175 to 144 by stupid dieting. Looks bad? Yes. Stupid? Absolutely!
Point is, that he’s making himself to be bodybuilding demi-god and won’t take the advice given. I was like that for about 5 whole days, then i realized that these guys are right and wanna help. I’m at 171lbs right now(nope, not posting pix till I’m at least 190) and i’m actually lifting some shit now. Is my physique impressive? Not by a longshot.
The point I’m trying to make is that he’s worrying about his “hawt abz” wayyy too fucking much. But then again now then I really think about it, who am I to judge? I NEVER had visible abs. i was skinny-fat since I can remember.
But yes, based on those 2 pix, you are more than correct when you say that he knows more than I do. What’s true is true.
(shit that was a lot of typing, sorry if I’m all over the place)[/quote]

Right on. Looking forward to seeing your progress pics.

shoob, I recommend starting to count calories. You’ll probably have to monitor cals while looking at the scale and the mirror, to get an idea of what your maintenance level is, as well as how much muscle/fat you put on when you’re over it.