Did you read what I posted about crime? Yes things aren’t equal. Poverty is an issue in all races but their are aspects of it that aren’t not the same when you look at the historical background of how we got here. And understanding those differences matters when we look to change it.
Probably important to point out that those who gave blacks and women the right to vote could have been described as SJW. Wouldn’t you call Rosa Parks and Dr along SJW’s of their time?
To compare true civil rights activists to these modern day charlatans is a massive stretch man…
Are you white, by chance ?
What does this change? It really doesn’t effect the discussion. Being able to say “this black person did this or this women did this” isn’t even close to evidence that the opportunities are equal. Take a look at pictures of Congress over the last 40 years and it paints a pretty consistent picture. I would hardly think “look a black guy in that one!” is evidence that the opportunities to achieve the most prestigious positions is equal.
What do police stand to gain by stopping people “randomly” ? Seems illogical and nonsensical. Not to mention could cost you your job in today’s age.
Quite a few of the guys I was stationed with went on to become cops. They’ve told me a lot of stories and just how and why they operate the way they do. They made sense of it.
People that don’t do the job probably aren’t aware of a lot of the nuances ?
Do you not think that’s how they could have been described in their time?
Why does my race even matter if everything is equal? You can make points against my arguments if you would like.
Ok bro. Keep on keepin on. I’m doing rather well as are tons of other minorities that refuse to bow to leftist ideology.
You’re talking about petty crimes, but even in a place like Ottawa where it’s still mostly white people you mostly have black and middle eastern men killing other black and middle eastern men, plus most of the street level drug dealers are black or middle eastern. Are police resources best used on stopping serious crimes or petty crimes?
A lot of the charges in the past resulting from random searches were for weed possession, but now in Canada and many US states it is legal so that is no longer an issue. There is also an argument for treating drug use as a non-criminal issue, send them to rehab instead of jail.
Because you seem bent on race being the most important factor in one’s lot in life and not, perhaps, that person’s life choices.
Nobody is forcing any of us to… Drop out, make babies, not get a job, kill one another over petty bullshit, sell dope… Nobody.
Didn’t I say don’t do that?
Ok. You might want to look at the history of the ideology of people attempting to enact social change and thank them for the increased opportunities. They certainly didn’t come from people who were satisfied with the status quo. You do you though.
Have you made any posts in this thread or this part of the forum that haven’t been about race?
I feel like you’re angry that I don’t buy into your b.s.
Does one’s life choices or attitude HAVE ANY affect on the outcome at all ? Or is it all this racism everywhere I just can’t seem to find ?
Contraband hits. It didn’t list whether the crimes were serious or not.
Serious crimes. So work on those instead of stopping black people because they are black and the assumption is that they are criminals? Or a “middle eastern” man.
Yes. And they’re just counters to yours typically.
Frankly it’s insulting to have a non minority try to convince me there’s all this oppression and racism about. The arrogance is palpable.
I’m not angry. No one who has made up their mind as much as you have is buying into much. You haven’t really addressed much that I’ve said other than randomly throwing around leftist and SJW.
Who said one’s choices don’t matter? Anyone in this thread? Maybe you can’t find racism because you’re confused on what it is? I gave you plenty of examples of continued issues worth discussing and you dismissed them. Which is fine like I said you’re good on what you think. Just don’t be mad that everyone isn’t coming to the conclusion you want.
It’s cognitive dissonance. You had no idea that white people were oppressing you until one told you so on a forum.
Overall I think there is some discrimination, but then you also have race-based hiring quotas and stuff like that plus companies owned or managed by people of whatever non-white ethnic group that while maybe it’s not 100% fair it’s not too far off. And nobody said life was going to be fair anyway.
What does it matter? You have someone whose skin color you can’t see giving you things that you won’t attempt to address. So either you don’t have rebuttals to my points or you do. Make arguments against them or don’t.
Lmao at “you can’t talk about something unless you are that specific person.” I’ll assume you never talk about issues regarding people or professions that you haven’t been? Seems like that would make a pretty boring politics forum. “Don’t comment on the President you’re not even a President!”
Wonder why you saw white people marching? The fuck did they know or care about the plight of black and people?
I see how you’ve made an exception for yourself as a half black man though. I suppose by that logic you can talk about white and black people!
While I hate to break up a good circle jerk I never called him oppressed nor made assumptions about him like he has me. I’ve just made points that get ignored because “grr leftiezzz!”
In case it was too lengthy and you didn’t read:
Didn’t catch that part. So he definitely can’t talk about white people then 
I was thinking about what @gorija was saying and he does have a point, it’s like white liberals and poor black people in America have a sort of co-dependent relationship. If you don’t know what I’m talking about then read this:
And while as you say there are a lot of white racists who like to use data to present a picture of black people as violent savages, that’s not actually what the data shows at all, only in certain place where as I mentioned there is a large criminal subculture.
Looking at murder rates, Somalia actually has about the same rate as the US and is one of the poorest countries in the world, and is all black as well. Martinique, an small island in the Caribbean that is around 90% black people, actually has about half the murder rate of the US. I was there a few years ago, poverty is an issue and unemployment is close to 50% but violent crimes are pretty rare. And you could say, oh well, that’s a small island in the Caribbean, no wonder crime is low, but look at St Kitts, St Lucia, St Vincent, and Trinidad, all similarly small islands in the same region but all have 10x+ more murders. So what is going on?
And then to complicate this further, one of the most violent countries in the world is El Salvador, and due to anti-black policies and not having previously imported African slaves there are next to zero black people in the country.
All this isn’t totally relevant to the problems of Black Americans, but the point is that there is no reason to believe that black people are inherently prone to crime and violence any more than any other group. People are just influence by their surroundings, and if you live in a neighborhood where most of the kids are joining gangs, selling or using drugs, robbing people, shooting people, etc. then the odds of you getting mixed up in that are much higher. The white liberal mentality of sweeping all the problems under the rug and arguing for more welfare payments and food stamps will not fix anything, and at best it will remain as it is. At worst it will get much worse, and taking guns away from law abiding citizens will only give criminals the upper hand.
Opportunities are not equal for everybody in the US. Your points are valid. Another thing that comes to my mind is a study that was done with employment. In the study they sent out identical content resumes to different employers but some of the resumes had “black” names on them and some had “white” names on them. The white name resumes got responses at something like 3X the rate of the black name resumes.
An argument should stand or fall on the basis of its merit, not on who presents it.