[quote]JPBear wrote:
Going back to the original discussion, I think that the abundance of media in our lives today is one of Satan’s greatest tools to keep us immersed in a contestant, meaningless noise. People use this noise to drown out the sound of their conscience, questions about their mortality and questions about life, origin and eternity. Basically, the voice of God. [/quote]
agreed.
[quote]swivel wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
…Seriously, just listen to your Coltrane, take a couple of Flameout caps, and chill out.
Peace.
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Now the real question is: can I get that on my iPPOD video?
Alright, to end this bullshit discussion, everyone discussing audio quality must buy a good CD or vinyl record Birth of the Cool and Bernstein’s orchestral Pictures at an Exhibition, and then go download the same albums off of iTunes, or download them in MP3 fashion. You will hear a difference.
Then go do the same thing with stuff lke Ride the Lightning or Peace Sells… You will not hear a difference unless you’re really paying attention. Do the same with something like Sgt. Pepper’s or Surrealistic Pillow and you will again hear no difference unless you’re paying attention, although it’s more noticable then with Metallica/Megadeth.
End of discussion.
[quote]Moriarty wrote:
Anyone else ever realized you forgot your iPod at home or realized its battery was dead and still took your headphones into the gym just to keep people from bothering you?[/quote]
My has died mid-workout and I’ve kept it on for this very reason.
I was listening to this guy tell me that Ipods were the biggest seling portable device ever. But apparently Nokia sold more symbian 6630 and 6680 phones in two months in 2005 than Apple sold Ipods sine they were launched. All you need ais a decent sized memory card and some dcent headphones and adaptor and you have a phone / mp3 player / resonable camera and organiser. Surely the savvy choice. Ok the ultimate space isn’t as much, but youc an carry several large memory cards full of tunes about.
Portable players playing compressed sound is an awesome invention so I don’t have to talk to anybody in the gym.
I’m pretty sure if you turn down the compression rate a bit (to 196kbps like somebody else mentioned) nobody will hear a difference. I believe people imagine they hear a difference due to narscistic reasons.
Check out this test for instance:
http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/listen.html
In a controlled test, I’d like to see the man hearing the difference between a 160kbps OGG and an original PCM coded soundtrack.
A few people have mentioned OGG here. A couple years ago there was talk of making portable devices with the OGG codec. Unfortunately, most people have never heard of it. OGG Vorbis really is superior to MP3 AND it’s open source!
http://www.vorbis.com/
[quote]JPBear wrote:
Going back to the original discussion, I think that the abundance of media in our lives today is one of Satan’s greatest tools to keep us immersed in a contestant, meaningless noise. People use this noise to drown out the sound of their conscience, questions about their mortality and questions about life, origin and eternity. Basically, the voice of God. [/quote]
Not true. I think about this stuff all the time. Why do you think I don’t like being bothered by people who want to “make conversation” by talking about inane topics? The stuff going on inside my head is usually way more interesting than what most people want to say.
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
JPBear wrote:
Going back to the original discussion, I think that the abundance of media in our lives today is one of Satan’s greatest tools to keep us immersed in a contestant, meaningless noise. People use this noise to drown out the sound of their conscience, questions about their mortality and questions about life, origin and eternity. Basically, the voice of God.
Not true. I think about this stuff all the time. Why do you think I don’t like being bothered by people who want to “make conversation” by talking about inane topics? The stuff going on inside my head is usually way more interesting than what most people want to say.[/quote]
Not only that but music has never “drowned” out my subconscious. If anything, it simply gives it a medium to swim in. Music has a spirit all its own, therefore, I listen to music that either reflects the way I currently feel and helps that feeling expand or I listen to music to enduce a certain mental state.
I remember wearing headphones in college walking in between classes. It was because by doing so, college life suddenly became a music video. I never did it to detach myself from the world.
Sometimes my head is where the action is at, not the sounds coming from someone else’s mouth.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
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Sometimes my head is where the action is at, not the sounds coming from someone else’s mouth.[/quote]
Sometimes I need to drown out the voices in my head.
“Kill kill kill kill…”
i dont doubr=t that there is a true quality difference
but i feel listening with shitty headphones makes more of a difference.
why worry about it?
Technology is the devil’s work
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Technology is the devil’s work[/quote]
your right, i am gonna smash my laptop right now, you should do the same. on the count of three. one…two…three. hey come on. for real this time ok ok. one…two…three…
Ooooh, you! You didn’t drink it! Oh hahaha, OK for real now, 1, 2,…3! OH you didn’t drink it this time either!
[quote]JPBear wrote:
Going back to the original discussion, I think that the abundance of media in our lives today is one of Satan’s greatest tools to keep us immersed in a contestant, meaningless noise. People use this noise to drown out the sound of their conscience, questions about their mortality and questions about life, origin and eternity. Basically, the voice of God. [/quote]
Unless you’re listening to Morrissey.
[quote]brushga wrote:
Hearing all this talk about bad radio in the gym reminds me of this guy who used to work out at my 24 hour gym. He was a HUGE black dude, had to have been 350. Big tattoos, goatee, looked like he should be playing guard for the Falcons or something.[/quote]
Just curious, but why the need to mention that the guy was black? I read the rest of your story expecting there to be some reason for his skin color to have been described but found none…
[quote]elliot007 wrote:
i dont doubr=t that there is a true quality difference
but i feel listening with shitty headphones makes more of a difference.
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i agree. with shitty headphones it all sounds like shit. with good ones at least you know you’ve tried. [quote]
why worry about it?[/quote]
why ? because cheepnis sucks that’s why.
we’ve seen on this thread alone how fast cheepnis propaganda is infecting the country and painting anyone who gives a shit about having a good experience on the lunatic fringe. won’t be long till the whole frickn world’s one huge dollar store.
[quote]elliot007 wrote:
i dont doubr=t that there is a true quality difference
but i feel listening with shitty headphones makes more of a difference.
why worry about it?[/quote]
Depends on what you listen to. If you are into top ten music, the difference will be small and acceptable. But if you listen to things like Coltrane or Stranvinsky, at any MP3 encoding rate, the difference is so big and the result so awful that I want to throw up. Even rock music sounds awful encoded in MP3, as long as you listen to it indoors (on the street the background noise masks most of the difference).
If you can’t tell the difference between a cd and a 128kbs MP3, you have bad hearing. You should be able to tell with bad headphones too. Not caring is another story entirely. Most music doesn’t have the details necessary to justify getting good headphones (the cheapest GOOD headphones are $60), though you would still hear a difference.
Back to the original topic, I like random conversations, sometimes even in the gym, but not while I’m lifting. The gym is my home away from home. I sometimes don’t even talk to friends while I’m in the gym.
When I workout I use my Ipod to:
Avoid annoying people(those guys in your gym who go there to talk and hit on girls)
The annoying music they play there(like anyone can workout to the fagstreet boys)
To get MOTIVATED
They’re small and don’t get in the way(unlike most cd players)
Why not workout with Ipods?