IPhone 4/5 (and Other Mobile/Tablet Discussion)

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Galaxy Nexus it is.

Wife gets a free Droid 3 which is more phone than she’ll ever need.[/quote]

Great so maybe will finally start seeing you on the + side again?[/quote]

LMAO! I’m on there bitch!

Apple reclaimed top spot for the world’s largest phone seller again, after their last quarter. The 4S is selling like a champ.

Wouldn’t touch the Galaxy Nexus after hearing people complain about multiple issues with it, although Android ICS is quite nice.

I have a MacBook Pro, iPad, and an iPhone 4. Sticking with this combination until my contract is up on my phone (1.5 years) and then making a full switch to Windows Laptop, Windows 8 Tablet, Windows Phone 8.

Right now, nothing is touching the combination I have here (in my experience).

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
I have a MacBook Pro, iPad, and an iPhone 4. Sticking with this combination until my contract is up on my phone (1.5 years) and then making a full switch to Windows Laptop, Windows 8 Tablet, Windows Phone 8.

Right now, nothing is touching the combination I have here (in my experience).[/quote]

The Mac ecosystem is the best thing out right now, they’ve pulled it off well.

WinPhone7 is just the warmup to what MS is planning for Win8/WP8 - it’s going to be pretty damn good.

Question- I have an iphone 4s and an older macbook (2007). currently running mac osx 10.4.11 says no updates available and it wont let me update to the newest itunes. So I called apple and they basically told me if i want to be able to update my phone via itunes (the only way to update said phone) I need to go buy a new computer?!?! They said you need minimum Mac Osx 10.6 to run the current itunes, and that my computer is enabled to run their BRAND NEW software. Is this BS or if I want to be able to back up my phone and use it with my itunes I really have to buy a new computer?

Stupidest thing ive ever heard, Its all their product they should be able to sync them. 1) I dont have the funds for a new computer, 2) I dont need a new computer, my current one works just fine for emails, work website stuff, cruising the web no issues at all other than this damn itunes shit.

Any help is appreciated or an honest “yes youre fucked”

Also- I told the guy id be calling in complaints on the regular to apple about this. He said “well whatever you want to do with your free time”. I told him something along the lines of. I work 24on-48off trust me I have a lot of free time.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
Question- I have an iphone 4s and an older macbook (2007). currently running mac osx 10.4.11 says no updates available and it wont let me update to the newest itunes. So I called apple and they basically told me if i want to be able to update my phone via itunes (the only way to update said phone) I need to go buy a new computer?!?! They said you need minimum Mac Osx 10.6 to run the current itunes, and that my computer is enabled to run their BRAND NEW software. Is this BS or if I want to be able to back up my phone and use it with my itunes I really have to buy a new computer?

Stupidest thing ive ever heard, Its all their product they should be able to sync them. 1) I dont have the funds for a new computer, 2) I dont need a new computer, my current one works just fine for emails, work website stuff, cruising the web no issues at all other than this damn itunes shit.

Any help is appreciated or an honest “yes youre fucked”

Also- I told the guy id be calling in complaints on the regular to apple about this. He said “well whatever you want to do with your free time”. I told him something along the lines of. I work 24on-48off trust me I have a lot of free time.[/quote]
That sucks.

Can’t you just upgrade to Lion? Seems cheaper than buying a new computer.

10.4.11 is fucking ancient. Mac OS 10.4 was released in 2005.

In this situation I would have to side with Apple.

Update to 10.6 and max out your computer’s RAM from a 3rd party.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
10.4.11 is fucking ancient. Mac OS 10.4 was released in 2005.

In this situation I would have to side with Apple.

Update to 10.6 and max out your computer’s RAM from a 3rd party. [/quote]

They said I dont have enough space to upgrade to 10.6…what do you mean from a 3rd party? My whole thing is why would I want to spend money, I have no issues with how my computer operates. Im also assuming I cant upgrade to Lion or anything since I cant even upgrade to 10.6.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
10.4.11 is fucking ancient. Mac OS 10.4 was released in 2005.

In this situation I would have to side with Apple.

Update to 10.6 and max out your computer’s RAM from a 3rd party. [/quote]

They said I dont have enough space to upgrade to 10.6…what do you mean from a 3rd party? My whole thing is why would I want to spend money, I have no issues with how my computer operates. Im also assuming I cant upgrade to Lion or anything since I cant even upgrade to 10.6.[/quote]

Here are the system requirements for 10.6:

Mac computer with an Intel processor (IA-32). “Yonah” processors such as Core Solo and Core Duo can run only 32-bit applications; later x86-64 architecture processors such as Core 2 Duo are also able to run 64-bit applications.
1 GB of RAM
5 GB of free disk space
DVD drive (also accessible via Remote Disc) or external USB or FireWire DVD drive for installation

You don’t meet these requirements? I find that hard to believe for a computer purchased in 2007. My suggestion was only to minimize your costs instead of having to buy a brand new computer.

Snow Leopard is only $29

As for my 3rd party comment…

When you buy RAM directly from Apple it is always much more expensive than buying it from elsewhere. You don’t need any special Apple RAM that sometimes get advertised.

Upgrading your RAM to 2GB will probably only cost you $50-$70.

Edit: I bought my macbook pro in May 2008 and it costs me $80 to upgrade from 2GB of RAM to 4GB. It’s also very easy to install by yourself.

Not enough space? Put some movies or shit on an external drive or spread it over some free cloud services if you don’t have one or don’t want to buy one. Or buy a new HDD or SSD.

If this is the computer you own: MacBook Pro (Mid 2007, 2.4/2.2GHz) - Technical Specifications

Then you meet the requirements to install Snow Leopard.

You will just have to clear HD space which is pretty easy.

Thanks for all the help guys, a couple more questions.

  1. how do i clear space? I really dont think I have much on here but over the years i probably have shit i think i deleted when i fact i didnt.

  2. That is not my computer, it is just a macbook not a pro.

  3. Under the about this mac tab thingy it says
    Processor- 1.83 GHz intel core 2 duo
    Memory- 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    Startup disk- Macintosh HD

No idea what any of that means, at all.

I guess those were all questions, but I really do appreciate your guys help. Especially since Id like to be able to back up my Iphone since im now taking pictures and stuff with it. The guy did tell me how I could update it via another persons computer but That would A) be a pain B) do not think I could back it up.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
Thanks for all the help guys, a couple more questions.

  1. how do i clear space? I really dont think I have much on here but over the years i probably have shit i think i deleted when i fact i didnt.
    [/quote]

Check your download folder. I have a lot of crap that gets built up in there.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

  1. Under the about this mac tab thingy it says
    Processor- 1.83 GHz intel core 2 duo
    Memory- 512 MB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    Startup disk- Macintosh HD
    [/quote]

You need more RAM. I would go up to 2GB which I’m guessing is the max for your computer. I don’t know your area but ask friends where a good place to buy RAM would be.

You didn’t list how big your HD is. Right click on the Macintosh HD icon on your desktop and hit get info.

Tell me what it says under capacity and under available.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

No idea what any of that means, at all.[/quote]

I’m pretty surprised by this. Your hub lists at you 22. If that’s correct, how could you possibly have ‘no idea’ what any of that means? That’s baffling.

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

I guess those were all questions, but I really do appreciate your guys help. Especially since Id like to be able to back up my Iphone since im now taking pictures and stuff with it. The guy did tell me how I could update it via another persons computer but That would A) be a pain B) do not think I could back it up. [/quote]

If you really care about getting the latest iPhone 4S software you’re going to have to jump through some hoops.

Anyways another important question to ask is how long you plan on holding onto your macbook pro? If getting the latest iPhone software requires you to upgrade your computer’s OS, RAM and maybe even buy an external HD is it really worth it?

Personally, I think people should buy a new computer every 4-5.5 years and IMO your about due for a new machine.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m pretty surprised by this. Your hub lists at you 22. If that’s correct, how could you possibly have ‘no idea’ what any of that means? That’s baffling.
[/quote]
Simple. Mac user.

^ Agree with that.

My friend has an old MBP that is about 5 years old, and similarly spec’d to what you have. It runs Snow Leopard just fine (OS 10.6) and you shouldn’t have an issue with installing that either.

Sounds like you should either:

A) Buy an external drive if you don’t already have one
B) Backup all your data to said external
C) Upgrade your RAM and hard drive
D) Get a copy of OS X 10.6, burn it to DVD if it doesn’t come with one and do a clean re-install. If you don’t know how, find a friend that does. It’s not hard, although Apple hardware tends to be funny with the version of software it will or won’t install. For example, my friends iMac would only accept OS X 10.6.3, nothing before or after that in the Snow Leopard range.

OR

Buy a new computer altogether. Macbook’s do have good resale values, but what you have is a bit old.

Ultimately, Apple’s game is hardware. So they are going to force users to buy new hardware as often as possible (their update cycle is yearly) and you are essentially shit out of luck once your Apple hardware is over 2 years old when it comes to getting the latest updates; especially with iOS running smoothly on your phone, not entirely true for their computers though.

However, with every update they release they are slowly phasing out older hardware compatibility to, again, force users to upgrade. Anything before the iPhone 4 will more than likely not run iOS 6 when it comes out this year, and it will be feature limited if it does.

My advice: Buy a PC. You pay less and you get a flexible system that isn’t dictated by what hardware you have to have as much as a Mac. The Win8 ecosystem is going to be leaps and bounds ahead of what iOS and OSX offers. Even die hard Mac fanboys like Joshua Topolsky are admitting it.

[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m pretty surprised by this. Your hub lists at you 22. If that’s correct, how could you possibly have ‘no idea’ what any of that means? That’s baffling.
[/quote]
Simple. Mac user.[/quote]

Haha.

[quote]kakno wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’m pretty surprised by this. Your hub lists at you 22. If that’s correct, how could you possibly have ‘no idea’ what any of that means? That’s baffling.
[/quote]
Simple. Mac user.[/quote]

HAHAHA.

I am in fact 22, I know nothing about technology. I honestly dont care to learn, which i realize is not in my best interest. I use my computer to cruise the web, send some emails, check sports, really nothing else.

Capacity- 55.57GB available 12.77GB

Again not being a dick just letting you know it IS NOT a macbook pro, it is simply a macbook, I believe there is a difference. I plan on keeping it until I can no longer use it for my needs, which as of now, other than keeping up to date with my phone, it does just fine. And i do not think its worth it to do all that upgrading and stuff, right?

I really dont have the funds to currently buy a new laptop/computer.

I will look in my downloads folder, once im able to find it…lol

It just doesnt make sense to me to spend the money, whether it be another mac or a pc, when i really dont utilize machines to their capacity since I do not know how.

Side note- If someone in my house has a laptop that is capable, could I install the latest version of Itunes on their computer and basically just use that for everything pertaining to my phone?

Cant find download folder- where would that be?

Also since im openly stupid about computers, how do you even uninstall stuff from a mac? Do you just move it to the trash? On a PC it says uninstall, I cant find that option on this…

What FF described is exactly why I hate macs and iphones. My Android will run with any computer and doesn’t need to be synched. Why would you need to synch your phone to your computer anyway???

Anyway, is there a specific reason why you need to update? Hell, if it’s suiting your needs right now then what’s the issue? Am I missing something?

james

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
Cant find download folder- where would that be?

Also since im openly stupid about computers, how do you even uninstall stuff from a mac? Do you just move it to the trash? On a PC it says uninstall, I cant find that option on this…[/quote]

I believe you simply need to drag files to the trash bin to uninstall programs on a Mac.

It sounds like you don’t really need to upgrade, other than to keep functionality of your phone. The only reason I can think of why you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to 10.6 is if it needs a 64bit processor and you have a 32bit.

Yes, you could use another computer. 99.9% sure a Windows PC will support the latest version of iTunes and give you all the updates you need.