Intuitive Eating: The Annoyance of Being a Hardgainer

Do you not think it might be wisest to get a job before worrying about the finer points of nutrition? Priorities and all that.

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Pretty much makes your thread tittle seem not accurate. Someone that is a true hard gainer with low muscle growth potential would not see that type of progress in years if ever. Even individuals on the other end of the spectrum would be hard press ( damn unlikely even with assistance)for that types of gain in that amount of time.

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Too much starting to smell fishy here man.

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Yeah. I started a new thread but it got merged with the old one. None the less, I went from 140-150 lbs to 185lbs and my bench press went from 90lbs to 180lbs for 3 sets of 8 clean reps. All I did was benchpress, squats, power cleans and lat pulldowns. Started in the fall, kept doing it until the end of spring. Pigged out at all you can eat buffets in the dining hall. That was all I did. Girls didn’t say I was fat. I had visible ab definition but I’ve never been super lean. I guess I’m probably 15% body fat or so. I can see my 4 upper abs in the mirror.

Anyway I’m now 200lbs.

I’m not sure if my current scale is accurate or not because I’ve never been over 190 but it is what it is. It’s a bodyweight scale sold in stores, I assume it’s accurate.

Last time I got weighed at a doctors office a year and a half ago I was 170lbs.

What I find with my body is that I gain and lose weight incredibly fast.

If I eat too little one day, I wake up the next day lighter. Likewise if I eat too much one day, I wake up the next day heavier.

The problem is the daily volume of food, and sustaining that long term. It’s expensive and time consuming.

When I had all you can eat buffets I would just eat as much as I wanted without regard. It worked an I saw results fast, but I ate A LOT.

I’ll add a sort of recent profile photo so people can see what my arms and shoulders looked like. Nothing crazy, and not my peak, but just a vague idea. I lost a lot of strength over summer due to extreme poverty and skipping food sometimes for days at a time.

I went from all you can eat buffets, unlimited food, to dirt poor over night. It sucked.

Today I can only bench 180lbs for two reps max. It’s really sad.

Here’s how I looked about 3 months ago:

Sadly, I’m smaller now than I was then.

…can you just take a second away from constantly complaining about your horrible life where you were able to afford 5K calories as a college student and are still able to live at your mom’s, jobless, with internet access and analyze the word HARDGAINER? Split it up into two words, look them up, join the words back up, and then look at them together.

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I gain fast IF I eat an absurd amount of calories. I lose just as fast if I eat a normal amount.

If I ate 3,000k calories a day I’d lose muscle very fast.

Anyway, I’m trying to move out as soon as possible so I can get my own place, get a gf, ETC.

But I had to fight my way into college my man. You know nothing about me or my life. I couldn’t go out of high school because of money. I did community college and transferred in as a Junior.

My mom did not support my decision to get higher education. I went against her wishes for myself.

Then, every summer I got endless shit for going. My home is emotionally abusive and narcissistic my man. It ain’t no ‘gift’ it’s a fucking prison cell.

With broke down cars I’m stuck there. I’ve got a bicycle in the bike shop getting a new tire installed. That’s my only transportation means for now. So get out of here with the ‘your lucky’ crap.

If I was in a normal family then I would agree with you, but I’m not.

Ehh. The more time you spend complaining, the less I put stock in you having something to complain about. Funny thing is, if you started a training log with a program, perhaps after getting a job, I’d read it. I like a good flame but positive attitude and hard work really get me engaged.

Why don’t you pop over to the training log section and start a log, or you can at least read some logs, like the guy who’s paralyzed, in a wheelchair, and was set on fire, but is competing in strongman contests, and has not complained on here once.

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Is this real?

It’s a bike tire, not a freakin artificial heart.

You don’t have a bike tire installed.

It’s a bike tire. You put it on, you pump it up, you ride away.

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He can’t do that, his parents are keeping him up fucking all night.

Although that still somehow allowed them to support a $2500 a month takeaway habit so their son could look almost as good as Tom Brady.

With all of the pumping they’re doing surely they could help him out with a flat. Apparently the boyfriend or what ever he is will pump the bajeezus out of anything.

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Sounds like he’d rather have a girlfriend and a car first though man, got to get your priorities right or you might end up a loser like Tom Brady.

If you built 45lbs of muscle in a few months, are you really experiencing muscle loss because your parents be havin it?

OOOOHHHHHOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOHHHHHH :open_mouth:

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45lbs of muscle meat (there’s fat here too obviously):

It’s a lot to grow…

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A good rule of thumb I have been following WHENEVER I feel like I should complain about something (even just to myself) is “don’t others have is problems too?”

The answer to this question is invariantly yes.

The second question follows, “aren’t some of those problems these people have way more critical than mine?” The answer will still be yes.
The conclusion is usually “then shut the fuck up and use your time to actually produce something.”

A good example is when a few months ago I was watching some nice cars drive by and for a while I really desired a nice car. I was “sad” because my car sucks and there are so many good ones driving around. Then the thought popped to my mind, “hey man, I do have a car. It works. What the heck can I want more. Shut up and go train/study”.

If you can afford (or your parents can afford you) 4500 calories of food daily, I am pretty sure you’re not in a bad spot. There are people that can afford no more than 4,500 calories a week. Got nothing to complain about and everything to be grateful for.

P.s. There is no way a person your size needs 4.5k calories to grow and will lose muscle on 3.0k calories.

P.p.s. Eat whatever you want as long as it helps you get to your goals. Life’s too short to waste it on rice and chicken all day everyday, even if it was the only way to get jacked.

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That’s the Italian in you talking.

I like your attitude man. I try to think “Is me complaining likely to be productive” because mostly it isn’t. Sometimes however, its cathartic or serves some other purpose. Mostly though, time spent complaining is time not spent fixing.

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