Intelligence Gap?

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I call bullshit on those IQ test scores.However, that is irrelevant. I was in all the honors classes. If you wanted to go to uni you took academic. Applied was for college.

I had good marks in academic classes (80%-93%). I received a full academic Scholarship. Then I got to university and realized regergatating (see I cant even spell) information onto a mulitple choice test wouldnt cut it. Thinking for yourself and having to aplly the knowledge into tests is the name of the game.

I had one of the hardest MC test ever last week where some of the smartest people cried afterwards.

This is some cocky bullshit. I hope someone knocks you down a peg or two.

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[quote]PredatorOC wrote:
I don’t think a persons IQ effects that persons social life or communication abilities.

  • POC[/quote]

I agree with this, I have a pretty high IQ and no real problem communicating at any level with anyone, then again I know who I am, what I’m about, and my limitations. Dealing with sophists and Philistines like Kombat and CaliforniaLaw is just something that actual sophisticated people have always had to do.

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[quote]keaster wrote:
This is some cocky bullshit.[/quote]

Smarty-pants types like to call it hubris.

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I hope someone knocks you down a peg or two.[/quote]

No reason to fret about it, sooner of later life will kick this youngster hard in his nutsack, it happens to everyone eventually.

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perhaps you could bridge that gap with some condescension. but be careful; it may lead to generosity.

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Clever men are impressed in their differences from their fellows. Wise men are conscious of their resemblance to them. — R. H. Tawney

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[quote]pookie wrote:
CaliforniaLaw EVERYONE says this. It’s the same thing as saying, “I have great relative strength.”

Some people are biger and stronger than others; some are smarter. I’m not sure why people have such a hard time accepting this.

Well duh. It’s not accepting the fact that some people are smarter than others that’s giving us problems. It’s the fact that all the self-described “highly intelligent” persons can seemingly only use that high intelligence to tell others about how smart they are.

Instead of telling us, why don’t you show us? There are plenty of other threads around where it would be interesting to get the insights that can only be had by someone of high intelligence. Being highly intelligent does enable one to relate facts in ways others miss, doesn’t it? We should have various threads where your posts - or those of KombatAthlete - would spark new ideas, new avenues of discussion.

Oddly, I don’t recall ever reading you or KA anywhere and saying “Hmmm. I hadn’t thought of that; interesting…”

So, instead of whining about how hard it is to have an 180 IQ and how lonely you feel, why don’t you demonstrate your massive intellect in more pragmatic ways?

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
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If someone’s pudding is their contribution to an Internet forum then I feel bad for that person.

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[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
You’ve gotten very similar responses from many different posters on this thread, and they all point to the same theme – you’re just not as smart as you think you are.
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I find it odd that people I have never even had a conversation with know how smart I am.

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It’s certainly true that more intelligent people will feel more isolated. It all comes down to that old saying “happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have”. If you have only a few good friends, cherish them and find contentment in that. Don’t try too hard to fit in because nothing good comes from it.

Also, even if it is true that you’re substantially more intelligent than others, it’s best not to bring up this fact in conversation. For some reason it is generally met with rather abbrasive responses. Ironically, if you tell someone how fast/strong you are (and you’re telling the truth), then such comments are not met with near the same abbrasiveness. Apparently mental ability reaches deeper in a person’s core of self-worth than physical ability. I speak that as a generalization and of course there are counterexamples so there’s no need to provide them.

On a slight tangent, don’t believe the results of most IQ tests. The majority of them have strong cultural bias. If you want a more accurate idea of your IQ, try a culture-free IQ test. [/quote]

Thank you for the advice.

I know that talking about your own intelligence is a bad idea. Hence I discuss it in an Internet forum, but I guess people still take it to heart.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
If someone’s pudding is their contribution to an Internet forum then I feel bad for that person.[/quote]

Since you obviously think so little of internet forums why did you start such a stupid thread?

You have much to learn about life.

Many of us have done well in standardized testing, won scholarships, obtained challenging academic degrees and yet relate very well with all sorts of people.

You don’t seem like a bad kid but you are making an ass of yourself here. Perhaps what you see as a gap in intelligence is really a gap in social skills.

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I lightly skimmed this thread, but would like to say that it’d be crucial for a person of ‘higher’ intelligence to learn how to communicate with others. Social skills are every bit as important as your intelligence quotiant. The person with the better social skills is more likely to get a job, so make it easy to communicate with the people you find it difficult.

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Kombat–
What colleges have you applied to? Where do you plan on going?

What I find really funny is that everyone on the internet claims some ridiculous IQ (ie the idiot Barney who says he tested 140+), yet they go to some shitty schools. I am really surprised how people could be so smart, yet cannot even get into a top 25 school. Don’t try and say the “oh I didn’t try in high school” crap either because it really is not that hard to take high school classes and breeze through with As and maybe some Bs with no effort–somehow though every bad ass on the internet with a high IQ somehow couldn’t make it past State U (not even the honors college). I really hope you are a legitimately smart guy and develop some relationships that you find useful, but I think you may have problems for other reasons. Maybe, if you really are incredibly intelligent, you will go to one of those great institutions with people of similar and greater abilities and you can communicate all you want with them.

If you want to be humbled, take the Putnam Exam. For your sake, I hope you scored a 5 on every damn AP or “you’re retarded.” (sarcasm)

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:

To answer, either of your questions, yes I am in the ‘Gifted Program’, if you accept all Honors/AP classes as being the equivelant of the ‘Gifted Program’ at a school that offers nothing by such a specific title. [/quote]

I was in highly gifted. It was a special program in a school district in South Florida that had me moved almost 40 miles to the only school in the county who was instituting the program at the time. We had two teachers assistants for 18 children. We had speakers from local universities come and talk to us every Friday. This was not highschool. This was not even middle school. It was the last two years of elementary. Out of the 18 children, 9 of them were sent by their parents from out of state specifically to take part in the program.

So, as a former highly gifted student I feel I should say to you, a mere gifted plebeian: shut up, idiot.

Although, the program was scrapped 3 years later and something like half the kids ended up with a diagnosed psychotic disorder of some kind. Maybe you’re heading down that road with captain chemical imbalance above who’s sympathizing with you. You two can fight crime together, some kind of elitist acne-ridden constantly masturbating version of the Ambiguously Gay Duo.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I know that talking about your own intelligence is a bad idea. Hence I discuss it in an Internet forum, but I guess people still take it to heart.[/quote]

I can recall threads in the past where posters have relayed their childhood experiences or quoted their IQs, without anyone getting too riled up about it. Those same posters were also making sure not to sound condescending or to make it sound too much like they were bragging. A lot of it is tone, or what one takes to be tone from an internet post void of inflection.

As Julia said earlier, some people just seem to think they are an entirely different plane of existence than the rest of the world. I’m not saying that you ever made that claim.

I wasn’t offended by your post, btw, nor did I think you were being an ass. As I think back on my experiences, however, I realize that I have known people who “dumb themselves down.” Or rather, they don’t feel the need to overawe everyone with their intelligence all the time. I knew some people in high school who were intelligent, but they fit in with everyone else. You wouldn’t expect to be able to have a “deep conversation” with them, but that was only because they weren’t constantly walking around trying to start up deep conversations. I do have to say that no matter how smart you and your peers are, the depth you’re going to hit on those conversations is still probably going to be pretty shallow. Not that that’s bad… it’s part of growing up.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that people are going to “target” you because you’re smart. If you’re humble, a decent human being, and you don’t intentionally make other people feel stupid, most people will think of you as a smart, nice guy, and leave it at that. Because, believe it or not, most people don’t really spend that much time thinking about you.

The people who tend to be targets (and I’m not trying to make an oblique attack on CaliforniaLaw, here) are people who take themselves way too seriously, and whose only real attribute is their intelligence or perception of it. So they go out of their way to let everyone know how smart they are, every minute of every day. And that is annoying. So avoid doing that, and I think you’ll be fine.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
If someone’s pudding is their contribution to an Internet forum then I feel bad for that person.[/quote]

Oooh, cunning retort. You really ARE mentally priviledged. Pookie never really stood a chance attempting to match wits with such a high level member of the intelligentsia.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I find it odd that people I have never even had a conversation with know how smart I am.[/quote]

Save this thread, and read it again in seven to ten years. You will probably see exactly what myself and others are telling you.

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  Well, guess i am the odd one out, I am as Dumb as Dog shit, always have, was always a struggle to get through school, hated the whole idea of school....but i do have common sense or as some say in Oz, common dog fuck.
  It has served me well and have had a life so far that has been very varied in my occupations and one that i have been proud of, so to all the dumb bastards out there, do not despair, what god does not give you in grey matter, he makes up for it in other areas.
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[quote]nephorm wrote:
As Julia said earlier, some people just seem to think they are an entirely different plane of existence than the rest of the world. I’m not saying that you ever made that claim.[/quote]

It’s in the OP:

“It’s like I’m just not on the same playing field as everyone else.”

And that’s exactly the problem. While they think that they’re shunned because of their high intelligence, it’s rather because they’re self-absorbed narcissists who can’t shut up about themselves. What they interpret as dumb people unable to relate with them is simply the normal reaction most persons have to a bore.

Just go back and read the posts from KA and CALaw; noticed how many sentences are about themselves and how great they find themselves to be. They are quite able - and more than willing - to testify to their staggeringly high intelligence, but apparently incapable of demonstrating it.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
It’s in the OP:

“It’s like I’m just not on the same playing field as everyone else.”
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I’ll never be the aggressive poster you are, pookie ;-).

Eh, what is gained by pointing fingers? He gets defensive, the point is lost, and no one learns a damned thing. I’d prefer he understand my point without thinking that I’m calling him out on it specifically, with the hope that one day he’ll make some comment, think back to this thread, and say “oh, shit.”

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[quote]nephorm wrote:
I’d prefer he understand my point without thinking that I’m calling him out on it specifically[/quote]

Well, he’s supposedly smarter than about 95% (or is it 99.7?) of the population, so he should see right through your ruse, no?

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Pokie has some very good points.

One of the most accomplished people I know doesn’t say much at all about being smart or gifted or his acomplishments in life, but if you look at what he has done through out his career, it becomes obvious that he is extrordinarily gifted.

While some folks talk about being smart and trying to figure out smart sounding things to say, others are doing smart things.