[quote]pookie wrote:
Well, he’s supposedly smarter than about 95% (or is it 99.7?) of the population, so he should see right through your ruse, no?
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Only now that you’ve ruined it. You must be a super-duper-mega genius or something.
Somewhat off topic, but I just wanted to tell PredatorOC I love his avatar, although I personally find ordinals more interesting. To relate it back to intellegence, a very mathematical measure of intellegence is the largest countable ordinal you can clearly envision.
I would much rather have a discussion about people’s attempts at describing such things, but reguardless of intellegence, few people have the background information or inclination do this. To that degree, I can sympathize with the original poster.
[quote]Dr Fish wrote:
Clever men are impressed in their differences from their fellows. Wise men are conscious of their resemblance to them. — R. H. Tawney[/quote]
O.O
Very nice quote. I agree with this guy.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Pokie has some very good points.
One of the most accomplished people I know doesn’t say much at all about being smart or gifted or his acomplishments in life, but if you look at what he has done through out his career, it becomes obvious that he is extrordinarily gifted.
While some folks talk about being smart and trying to figure out smart sounding things to say, others are doing smart things.
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sometimes people with not as high of IQ’s can be called smart by others only because of some trait that they make themselves posess that is highly valued in our society, such as working themselves into the ground to achieve a lot, etc.
Also, I think the OP just stereotyped all the kids in his grade because “they arent trying to go around having deep conversations with everybody” as neph pointed out and also because they act like dumbasses, so why not say that they are all a bunch of dumbasses? Makes perfect shallow sense, yeah?
When met with strangers we all are prone to labeling them by their behaviors and never really try to think beyond that label we put on them when we simply dont care to deeply understand the person we labeled.
I just think he Likes to think he is on better and smarter “playing field” than everyone else.
[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
I would much rather have a discussion about people’s attempts at describing such things[/quote]
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[quote]nephorm wrote:
Only now that you’ve ruined it. You must be a super-duper-mega genius or something.[/quote]
God has me on speed dial, if that’s any hint.
[quote]pookie wrote:
nephorm wrote:
Only now that you’ve ruined it. You must be a super-duper-mega genius or something.
God has me on speed dial, if that’s any hint.
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I prefer to hang out with the Holy Spirit. He’s more my speed, almost the slacker type. God had to create the universe and watch over it. Jesus has that whole crucifiction thing. Then there’s the Holy Ghost – all the power, none of the responsibilities. My kind of guy.
You know, this thread sort of reminds me of Diesel Weasel only instead of lifting it’s about intelligence. It’s almost the same situation.
Here’s a guy who thinks he way smarter than he probably is.
DW thought he wa stronger than he really was.
He tries to back up his intelligence with long sentences and unnecessary words, yet makes several spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.
DW tried to back up his strength with impressive lifting videos, yet most had shortened range of motion and horrible form.
Several people have replied tactfully, and some not so tactfully, to the OP and explained what’s wrong with his way of thinking and he took offense.
Several people replied tactfully, and some not so tactfully, to DW and explained what was wrong with his lifts and DW took offense.
It’s almost eerie.
[quote]julia87 wrote:
sometimes people with not as high of IQ’s can be called smart by others only because of some trait that they make themselves posess that is highly valued in our society, such as working themselves into the ground to achieve a lot, etc.
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I can certainly agree with the hard work part for sure. Application of knowledge is very important. The exception is when a person is practicing his profession at the highest levels- developing new technologies and techniques of application.
It definitely requires long hours, but some people of a lesser capacity to think would simply never accomplish these things no matter how long or hard they worked.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
KombatAthlete wrote:
I know that talking about your own intelligence is a bad idea. Hence I discuss it in an Internet forum, but I guess people still take it to heart.
I can recall threads in the past where posters have relayed their childhood experiences or quoted their IQs, without anyone getting too riled up about it. Those same posters were also making sure not to sound condescending or to make it sound too much like they were bragging. A lot of it is tone, or what one takes to be tone from an internet post void of inflection.
As Julia said earlier, some people just seem to think they are an entirely different plane of existence than the rest of the world. I’m not saying that you ever made that claim.
I wasn’t offended by your post, btw, nor did I think you were being an ass. As I think back on my experiences, however, I realize that I have known people who “dumb themselves down.” Or rather, they don’t feel the need to overawe everyone with their intelligence all the time. I knew some people in high school who were intelligent, but they fit in with everyone else. You wouldn’t expect to be able to have a “deep conversation” with them, but that was only because they weren’t constantly walking around trying to start up deep conversations. I do have to say that no matter how smart you and your peers are, the depth you’re going to hit on those conversations is still probably going to be pretty shallow. Not that that’s bad… it’s part of growing up.
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that people are going to “target” you because you’re smart. If you’re humble, a decent human being, and you don’t intentionally make other people feel stupid, most people will think of you as a smart, nice guy, and leave it at that. Because, believe it or not, most people don’t really spend that much time thinking about you.
The people who tend to be targets (and I’m not trying to make an oblique attack on CaliforniaLaw, here) are people who take themselves way too seriously, and whose only real attribute is their intelligence or perception of it. So they go out of their way to let everyone know how smart they are, every minute of every day. And that is annoying. So avoid doing that, and I think you’ll be fine.[/quote]
Thank you for probably the best reply I have gotten. I know what you mean about people who identify themselves with little else but their intelligence, and they are generally incredibly obnoxious and arrogant human beings. Whether or not I am doing that now, I do not do that in the real world. I haven’t even told anyone what my IQ is when people have asked. Most people that haven’t known me for at least a month are surprised that I am smart when they do know me. So you could classify me as someone who “dumbs himself down”. That is bascially what I do, but it really wears on a person after a while.
I never said I had no friends, was socially outcast, etc. Also, I don’t walk around trying to start-up deep conversations.
[quote]julia87 wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
I would much rather have a discussion about people’s attempts at describing such things
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What I meant was as interesting as this topic is, it would be funner to talk about the structure of countable ordinals, an opinion that is not shared with too many people unfortunately. I was agreeing with the original poster that it can be frustrating sometimes when it is hard to find people both capable of and interested in talking about the things that interest you.
Time for Sunday worship (hammer throwing at the high school).
[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
Thank you for probably the best reply I have gotten. I know what you mean about people who identify themselves with little else but their intelligence, and they are generally incredibly obnoxious and arrogant human beings. Whether or not I am doing that now, I do not do that in the real world. I haven’t even told anyone what my IQ is when people have asked. Most people that haven’t known me for at least a month are surprised that I am smart when they do know me. So you could classify me as someone who “dumbs himself down”. That is bascially what I do, but it really wears on a person after a while.
I never said I had no friends, was socially outcast, etc. Also, I don’t walk around trying to start-up deep conversations.
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I can’t help but laugh at your post here. I can only imagine explaining a disorder to a patient yet acting as if it were too much of a hassle to speak in laymen’s terms so that they actually understand what I am saying. You haven’t even graduated from high school yet but are acting as if you have to “dumb things down” for your peers. It is freaking high school. How advanced are you?
If people know you for a month and are surprised to find out you are intelligent, you can’t be THAT intelligent. Aside from not using medical jargon, I don’t pretend who I really am in front of people…especially friends. My friends know me for what I am. That includes all my strengths AND weaknesses. They are my friends because I don’t have to pretend in front of them. People find out in one conversation that I don’t fit the stereotype they usually paint for me. You on the other hand act as if your intellect is so grand and massive that you have to fake who you are in front of people. Simply put, what a load of crap. If you aren’t being yourself, you are a fake to people who even try to get to know you.
I don’t even consider myself “average” so that part of your ‘problem’ isn’t even the issue. You are a kid who has yet to accomplish anything significant in life unless you have already started a business (as some kids do). What are you doing with this “gift” you think you’ve been given aside from acting as if it puts you above everyone you go to school with? Have any community service programs been started? How many kids are you tutoring?
Bottom line, many people on this site would probably be considered “above average” in many areas. Acting as if you have to pretend you are less intelligent to relate to people just shows you have some issues when it comes to social settings. It does NOT indicate you are so intelligent that the world simply can’t handle your brain in full force. To make it clearer, it would be retarded for me to use the largest words in my vocabulary when shopping at Walmart. Using slang, geographical terms, or even light humor are simply ways to communicate to different people from different backgrounds. The truly intelligent person would understand how to be themselves WHILE adapting their communication to fit the event. You, however, claim to be exhausted from all of the faking you have to do.
Once again, your communication skills seem to be what is lacking…not simply the intelligence of everyone you come in contact with.
[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
julia87 wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
I would much rather have a discussion about people’s attempts at describing such things
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What I meant was as interesting as this topic is, it would be funner to talk about the structure of countable ordinals, an opinion that is not shared with too many people unfortunately. I was agreeing with the original poster that it can be frustrating sometimes when it is hard to find people both capable of and interested in talking about the things that interest you.
Time for Sunday worship (hammer throwing at the high school).[/quote]
Dont hit any wandering dogs with it
I hit a dog this morning with my discus (a poodle) and it yelped and I felt terrible. I even knew the dog, its the first poodle my dog tried to eat.
Especially with the hammer. shudders
[quote]julia87 wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
julia87 wrote:
Carl Darby wrote:
I would much rather have a discussion about people’s attempts at describing such things
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What I meant was as interesting as this topic is, it would be funner to talk about the structure of countable ordinals, an opinion that is not shared with too many people unfortunately. I was agreeing with the original poster that it can be frustrating sometimes when it is hard to find people both capable of and interested in talking about the things that interest you.
Time for Sunday worship (hammer throwing at the high school).
Dont hit any wandering dogs with it
I hit a dog this morning with my discus (a poodle) and it yelped and I felt terrible. I even knew the dog, its the first poodle my dog tried to eat.
Especially with the hammer. shudders
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And yet you will wear eyelashes made of mink. Heathen Woman! (kidding Julia)
When Kombatjunior proudly graduates from the hard life of high school, finds that perfect little super intelligent female with whom he can finally engage in endless hours of superior conversation, starts shaving, and gets through community college to begin his journey into real life, we can only hope that any children resulting from this union are perfect in every way. What a heart break it would be if lil kombatbaby couldn’t tie his/her shoes until the age of 16.
Heaven forbid the child should bring home less than perfect grades knowing that perfect kombatdumbassdad was waiting at home.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If people know you for a month and are surprised to find out you are intelligent, you can’t be THAT intelligent. Aside from not using medical jargon, I don’t pretend who I really am in front of people…especially friends. My friends know me for what I am. That includes all my strengths AND weaknesses. They are my friends because I don’t have to pretend in front of them. People find out in one conversation that I don’t fit the stereotype they usually paint for me. You on the other hand act as if your intellect is so grand and massive that you have to fake who you are in front of people. Simply put, what a load of crap. If you aren’t being yourself, you are a fake to people who even try to get to know you.
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The second part of your post pretty much sums up the problem I have with the first part.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Acting as if you have to pretend you are less intelligent to relate to people just shows you have some issues when it comes to social settings. It does NOT indicate you are so intelligent that the world simply can’t handle your brain in full force. To make it clearer, it would be retarded for me to use the largest words in my vocabulary when shopping at Walmart. Using slang, geographical terms, or even light humor are simply ways to communicate to different people from different backgrounds. The truly intelligent person would understand how to be themselves WHILE adapting their communication to fit the event. You, however, claim to be exhausted from all of the faking you have to do.
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It’s more than just “faking”, it’s learning to survive in a social setting. If you want to interact with people you HAVE to learn how to adapt to the setting, and the way you talk on a college campus to a professor isn’t the way you talk to the cashier at Wallmart. And yes, when you are forced to be in a setting where the people you deal with are jackass teenagers it can be a pain in the ass to have to dumb down your conversation. So in a way I agree with KombatAthlete, not on the grounds that “Oh my god I’m so much smarter than these mindless peons that its’ almost unbearable.” but that he HAS to be there so he doesn’t have a choice. Now if he were complaining about dealing with idiots when he goes clubbing, then the obvious answer is not to go clubbing.
If he’s as smart as he says he is then once he gets into college on a scholarship because of his 4.0 GPA he’ll be able to interact with people more on his level. (I’m not going to hold my breath on that one.)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You are in high school. Everyone is a dumbass in high school…especially the kids who think they aren’t.[/quote]
The biggest bullshit on this site is what you just wrote. You have utterly no clue.
First off…no one here knows their numerical IQ absolutely.
There are literally hundreds of IQ tests and your score can vary vastly from test to test.
Mainly they are verbal reasoning tests. These test verbal reasoning IQ and as someone mentioned, we now recognise at least seven types of IQ.
Additionally, IQ score is a potential…if you do fuck all with it…you are worse than fuck all.
Incidentally…most responses to this thread could be rated on various different intelligence quotients. They wouldn’t score very high on any of them.
Ps. Mensa uses the Catwell 3 test (or at least it did when I took it, and 138 was a “genius pass”)
edit 148 on Catwell 3…miss type
[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Professor X wrote:
You are in high school. Everyone is a dumbass in high school…especially the kids who think they aren’t.
The biggest bullshit on this site is what you just wrote. You have utterly no clue.
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Coming from you, that means so much. You must be the last person on this site whose opinion carries any sort of value.