From the profiles I’ve read on humalog there appears to be different takes on the self life of the unopened slin. I have read everything from 1 month to 4 months. What is a reasonable amount of time to keep humalog before use unopened and refrigerated? I need to know how far in advance I can buy it.
[quote]aphysique wrote:
Ive used it and it fcukin sucked, very water logged and a whole bunch of carbs, used humlin R fast acting U must keep the carbs high…and I can’t stress that enough otherwise as U know you’ll go into insulin shock…otherwise known as hypoglycemic shock… [/quote]
What did your dosing protocol and nutritional outline look like? Also what other AAS and peptides/GH did you stack with it?
[quote]2thepain wrote:
From the profiles I’ve read on humalog there appears to be different takes on the self life of the unopened slin. I have read everything from 1 month to 4 months. What is a reasonable amount of time to keep humalog before use unopened and refrigerated? I need to know how far in advance I can buy it.[/quote]
I’m almost positive refridgerated is good for 6 mos., but as I’ve said before, I’m sure it’ll last even longer than that if needed.
From this website containing a Humolog Data Sheet: Page not found
Pharmaceutical Precautions
HUMALOG preparations should be stored in a refrigerator between 2° and 8°C. They should not be frozen or exposed to excessive heat or sunlight.
HUMALOG, HUMALOG MIX25 and HUMALOG MIX50 vials and cartridges can be kept at ambient temperature below 30oC and away from direct heat and light for 28 days while in use. Following insertion in a pen, the cartridge and pen should not be refrigerated.
The shelf life is two years when stored under appropriate conditions. The in-use shelf-life is 28 days
[quote]roofus_5 wrote:
From this website containing a Humolog Data Sheet: Page not found
Pharmaceutical Precautions
HUMALOG preparations should be stored in a refrigerator between 2° and 8°C. They should not be frozen or exposed to excessive heat or sunlight.
HUMALOG, HUMALOG MIX25 and HUMALOG MIX50 vials and cartridges can be kept at ambient temperature below 30oC and away from direct heat and light for 28 days while in use. Following insertion in a pen, the cartridge and pen should not be refrigerated.
The shelf life is two years when stored under appropriate conditions. The in-use shelf-life is 28 days
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Thanks for the fast response roofus. This is really good news for me, perhaps now I can run some slin at the beginning of my cycle as well and another short stint at the end.
No problem. Be safe.
I have a question for all you experienced slin users. Originally I planned on using slin for weeks 6,7,8,9 of my cycle. Do you think there were be any benefit from running it weeks 1,2,3 and 7,8,9? Would I be not as sensitive to the slin in the second three weeks?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Depends if you use anything to re-establish insulin sensitivity or not.
Personally, I will use metformin post insulin use.
Bushy[/quote]
So if I were to use merformin during the 4-5 weeks in between insulin runs I may be able to hold off becoming insulin resistance? In your experience is 5 weeks enough metformin use after a 3 week slin run to re-establish insulin sensitivity?
I was only pondering the 2 seperate runs of slin during cycle. The diabetic lifestyle is not all that appealing to me, so perhaps I should just stick with my proposed single run of 4 weeks with slin.
2thepain,
As for this coming cycle its still a bit up in the air for a few reasons. Money is pretty tight as I just bought a house and I am just recently back in the gym after about an 8 week break due to tendonitis flaring up pretty bad in my elbows.
I also dont want to gain a lot of size as I have a job related physical that has to be done around early July that my cardio conditioning has to be in check for. More opting to refine whats there and put on a bit of lean mass.
However what I have planned is either 1200-1500 mg of test per week or 750 test, 400 tren and 200 masteron. The amount of weeks is yet to be determined. It really depends on when its started as I plan to be off by early-mid april.
I just got my blood glucose meter and began to test it out. My results did not look normal to me and I am positive that I calibrated it correctly.
Right after I finished my workout I checked my levels and they were at 87. This appears a little low but I just finished my workout. I then drank my shake and had two servings of candy (58 grams sugar) and rechecked my blood levels, 38. WTF!
I know that the sugar will trigger a release of insulin and in turn lower my levels but that reading was really low. Does this mean that my body is very sensitive to insulin and that I should be extra careful bumping up my doses. I don’t think this type of reaction is typical. But I could be wrong.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Don’t forget that the liver is also going to create and store glycogen, so I guess that your sugar intake will also be diverted there, following the natural insulin spike.
What was the time span between sugar ingestion and testing?
I bet if you tested every 2 minutes or so, you’d see a surge in BS levels followed by a rapid decline (insulin is relaesed in a large pule, followed by a steady release, as needed).
I don’t know about you mate, but if I ate that much sugar after a training session, I’d feel pretty shafted for about 1 hour.
In fact, for me, that’s one of the nice things about the exo slin; it gives me more physical energy throughout the day (if I have it with breakfast) and after training.
Bushy[/quote]
I tested about 5-6 minutes after I finished the candy. So do you think this is a natural reaction to insulin? I tested again about 30 minutes after eating the shake/candy and my level was at 68.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
BTW, you don’t normally consume sugar PWO do you? I mean refined sugar as opposed to natural sugars? Or was this part of an experiment, leading up to the slin usage?
Bushy[/quote]
I was playing around with my meter and was trying to create an insulin spike. I am trying to get a feel for how fast my levels are going to drop post injection. Normally I don’t eat that much sugar in a whole day. I do drink grape juice and creatine following a workout. I think grape juice is still considered a refined sugar, but not nearly as much of it as I got from the candy.
Was reading an old article and came across this.
[quote]CF: No. Well, you’d have to warm-up to warm-up to warm-up? The reason people are lifting now before the sprinting �?? and it’s usually divided by many hours �?? is because of the popularity of insulin. They get up in the morning, they do their heavy lifts, then they’ll shoot insulin and then immediately load up with carbs. About six hours later they’re getting a spike in the fuel at the cell level, and then they’ll come out for their speed work afterward.
The upside is, it maximizes the drug. The downside is, once you’ve done the lift, you’re already committed to that level of output. Meaning that your strength may suffer if you’re off at all. We always lifted after sprinting because it was the number one priority and everything else had to be adjusted accordingly. [/quote]
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=462183
Thought you might be interested, but I know you workout in the evenings.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
Was reading an old article and came across this.
CF: No. Well, you’d have to warm-up to warm-up to warm-up? The reason people are lifting now before the sprinting �?? and it’s usually divided by many hours �?? is because of the popularity of insulin. They get up in the morning, they do their heavy lifts, then they’ll shoot insulin and then immediately load up with carbs. About six hours later they’re getting a spike in the fuel at the cell level, and then they’ll come out for their speed work afterward.
The upside is, it maximizes the drug. The downside is, once you’ve done the lift, you’re already committed to that level of output. Meaning that your strength may suffer if you’re off at all. We always lifted after sprinting because it was the number one priority and everything else had to be adjusted accordingly.
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=462183
Thought you might be interested, but I know you workout in the evenings. [/quote]
Thanks Brant, It would appear to be optimal for athletes using two a day workout split. However, as you pointed out I only lift once in the evenings. But I enjoyed the read, I enjoy anything that helps me to further my understanding of how a drug works and how to better utilyze it in the future.
I read in one article that adding L-Leucine to PWO shakes will enhance the effects of insulin as it is a vital part of the nutrient loading process. I think that this statement applied to “natural” training. Would this same principle hold true with exogenous insulin use? Would there be benefit in adding large doses of L-Leucine to PWO shake while using slin?