I know most people here are anti prohormones. that if you take that stuff you might as well make the leap and do it right. thats not feasible for me right now. That being said would taking insulin with superdrol be a wise choice? Working with what i got. And does anyone have any experience with people using insulin only as an anabolic minus any other aas? Ive been lifting a long time. 5’7 218. 575 squat, 550 deadlift, 410 bench. I only put my numbers down because i dont want anyone thinking im a newbie to lifting. I have a solid base, im just trying to push it farther.
ps. This site is awesome. you guys are really smart and i have learned so much its amazing. thats why i dont post much. im usually too busy reading… :0)
pss. bushy, youre all over the place bro!
most people here do not use insulin with any of the other drugs they are one. The reason being is the acute risk involved with its use… So, that being said, I am pretty sure you could use insulin with most any bodybuilding drug, albeit why you would use it with a pro-hormone is somewhat lost… If you are going to use insulin, whether it be to treat diabeetis, stacked with test, gh, IGf-1 and other drugs, or a pro-hormone, you must understand how it works and the risks involved, as well as the precautions you must take. Like when to take it, as well as what type of and how much carbohydrate to consume.
There is a guy at my gym that has done pretty much every kind of AAS/peptide, yet he will not use insulin. He is pretty fucking big too, about 5’11, 240, bench pressed around 545lbs… Of course his tendons are shot, he has some distension, and I don’t want to imagine what his heart/liver looks like from using BdyBldng drugs nearly non-stop for the past quarter century… Wow, this was a long post
i dont plan on taking anything till i have a really good plan but thanks for the advice anyways man. i do know a couple of guys who swear by it but its good to get the balanced view… like how some guys wont even touch it
This really has little to do with your orignal question, but, depending on exactly where you are in the Pacific, AAS might be a whole lot easier to get ahold of than you think. You just have to know where to look. Are you on an island or are you on a carrier or something of that nature?
Man, insulin and GH are really some hardcore stuff! Unless you’re competing for big $$$$ or trying for a pro sports contract, why do you want to fuck with those things, esp the insulin? Ever hear of insulin shock?
I’m a high school teacher and to see guys inject shit to win a fucking trophy just makes me angry. I can see doing it if millions are at stake, like an NFL contract, but for some other reason…WTF??
Okay, I’m an asshole for moralizing. I’ll go away but jeeeeezzzzzzzzzz…
I’ve used slin on its own. I ran it (humulin R) for five weeks, 8 ius in the morning and 8 ius after my workout. The only thing is, I had always heard you had to take 10 grams of sugar for every iu of insulin, so that’s what I did. When I would try to take less sugar or low gi carbs instead I would always get the shakes.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I’ve never done it solo, but I can’t see why you wouldn’t just run it solo if that’s what you want.
My advice would be:
Do not us insulin PWO; theres no need because your natural insulin spike from all the high GI carbs will do the job anyway.
Instead, use 8iu humalog with your first meal of the day, on the mornings after training the day before. Make this meal devoid of all fat (where possible), righ in low GI carbs and rich in protein.
As an example, I soak jumbo oats in apple juice and have 2 x 50g of whey, spaced about 40 minutes apart. I top the oats with frozen berries and/or dried fruit.
Don’t forget that even the quickest insulins take 10-15 minutes to become active, but that low GI carbs can take a little time to start affecting blood sugar, which is why you should include the fruit and also take your shots and start your eating at the same time. The same time.
Bushy[/quote]
You mentioned this to me before and I’m excited to try it. I was just wondering how many grams of carbs per iu of slin do you use, or does it matter? Like I said, when I take slin without sugar, I get the shakes so I’m a bit confused.
bushy,
would you say that you would prefer humalog over humulin r? i have the humulin and and am waiting till i know exactly what im doing. plus i have a circle of people im educating to amke sure they know what to do if somthing happens too. i dont think its that bad. does it have to amke you fat or does that depend on diet?
One of the main reasons people take humalog over humilin r is the faster entry and exit out of the body. You will have a shorter period of time in which you have to worry about the effects within the body and when you may have to overcompensate with extra sugary carbs.
As with any insulin, make sure one dose never has a chance to overlap with another.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Man, insulin and GH are really some hardcore stuff! Unless you’re competing for big $$$$ or trying for a pro sports contract, why do you want to fuck with those things, esp the insulin? Ever hear of insulin shock?
I’m a high school teacher and to see guys inject shit to win a fucking trophy just makes me angry. I can see doing it if millions are at stake, like an NFL contract, but for some other reason…WTF??
Okay, I’m an asshole for moralizing. I’ll go away but jeeeeezzzzzzzzzz…[/quote]
What does being a highschool teacher have to do with anything? Just curious…
I’ve run it on it’s own. I’ve gone as high as 10iu 3x/day and didn’t get fat. I used citrimax and CLA with it to block fat and did not eat fat during the insulins window of action. I don’t know if the HCA and CLA worked, but the theory is sound and I had good results so I would add them in for insurance. A protocol like that will work pretty good even without AAS or HGH but I am not real comfortable doing it and would not recommend it.
[quote]mbaina wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
I’ve never done it solo, but I can’t see why you wouldn’t just run it solo if that’s what you want.
My advice would be:
Do not us insulin PWO; theres no need because your natural insulin spike from all the high GI carbs will do the job anyway.
Instead, use 8iu humalog with your first meal of the day, on the mornings after training the day before. Make this meal devoid of all fat (where possible), righ in low GI carbs and rich in protein.
As an example, I soak jumbo oats in apple juice and have 2 x 50g of whey, spaced about 40 minutes apart. I top the oats with frozen berries and/or dried fruit.
Don’t forget that even the quickest insulins take 10-15 minutes to become active, but that low GI carbs can take a little time to start affecting blood sugar, which is why you should include the fruit and also take your shots and start your eating at the same time. The same time.
Bushy
You mentioned this to me before and I’m excited to try it. I was just wondering how many grams of carbs per iu of slin do you use, or does it matter? Like I said, when I take slin without sugar, I get the shakes so I’m a bit confused.[/quote]
I was told the same thing, to take 10g of carbs per iu of insulin to be safe. I have used insulin with anabolics, insulin with anabolics and gh and insulin with anabolics, gh and t3. The best reaults I got was running the insulin, gh and t3 together and I have use t3 before without gh and insulin.
Using the t3 with insulin and gh I felt like I was busting out of my skin but my bodyfat was plummeting like crazy. I could not stop it and at the time I really did not want to loose that much weight. I got to the point that I was continually eating woppers and fries and I was still in awsome shape.
When I did use insulin I used humilin r 10 ius in the morning and 10ius after training. Luckily, I never had a bad reaction, never even got the shakes ( although I was very good about getting carbs in me right away). I don’t know about using it by itself but as long as you are careful, I think the doomsday sideeffects are a bit out of proportion.
The only problem with the Novo pens are that they seem to malfunction a fair amount (the plunger fails to catch the gears inside) and you can’t tell how much you have injected… I got a whole bunch of them (the pens) but due to the problem I have been ripping the cartridges out of the pen and just using regular syringes with them.
