[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Anyway, I know the passive-aggressive, underlying flavor of such posts as of late, this thread and the threads about the Hodge Twins, CT Fletcher, and Kali Muscle: black dudes are an exception when it comes to natty gains, that they are superior in the muscle building department so when one speaks of natty expectations, one should not put men of all races under the same umbrella.
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Close, it is always about HIM and his need to get validation for his “really, really big muscles”. Since the direct approach fails, he tries the roundabout route. That fails as well, but at least gets some attention.
But then again, we all know that since forever, right?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Anyway, I know the passive-aggressive, underlying flavor of such posts as of late, this thread and the threads about the Hodge Twins, CT Fletcher, and Kali Muscle: black dudes are an exception when it comes to natty gains, that they are superior in the muscle building department so when one speaks of natty expectations, one should not put men of all races under the same umbrella.
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Close, it is always about HIM and his need to get validation for his “really, really big muscles”. Since the direct approach fails, he tries the roundabout route. That fails as well, but at least gets some attention.
But then again, we all know that since forever, right?[/quote]
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Anyway, I know the passive-aggressive, underlying flavor of such posts as of late, this thread and the threads about the Hodge Twins, CT Fletcher, and Kali Muscle: black dudes are an exception when it comes to natty gains, that they are superior in the muscle building department so when one speaks of natty expectations, one should not put men of all races under the same umbrella.
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Close, it is always about HIM and his need to get validation for his “really, really big muscles”. Since the direct approach fails, he tries the roundabout route. That fails as well, but at least gets some attention.
But then again, we all know that since forever, right?[/quote]
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Anyway, I know the passive-aggressive, underlying flavor of such posts as of late, this thread and the threads about the Hodge Twins, CT Fletcher, and Kali Muscle: black dudes are an exception when it comes to natty gains, that they are superior in the muscle building department so when one speaks of natty expectations, one should not put men of all races under the same umbrella.
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Close, it is always about HIM and his need to get validation for his “really, really big muscles”. Since the direct approach fails, he tries the roundabout route. That fails as well, but at least gets some attention.
But then again, we all know that since forever, right?[/quote]
We do searches every day, plus formal cell and unit inspections twice a week. Even with that these guys have ways of hiding things (up their ass).
Our facility does not have xray at our disposal, or one of those chair metal detectors where an individual sits and the anal area scanned. [/quote]
My guess is an epidemic of staph infections on ass cheeks would stand out.[/quote]
ha yeah, well with the population that are generally residents in a prison infections such as this are common from various sources.
But they do have bleach available on the unit to “clean” with, or disinfect needles with, or put in the microwave mixed with butter and sugar to boil and then throw in someones face.
One inmate was found with a cut in his arm before and a drinking straw shoved in to try and get drugs into the blood stream that way.
The creativity and recklessness is endless with these guys.
We do searches every day, plus formal cell and unit inspections twice a week. Even with that these guys have ways of hiding things (up their ass).
Our facility does not have xray at our disposal, or one of those chair metal detectors where an individual sits and the anal area scanned. [/quote]
My guess is an epidemic of staph infections on ass cheeks would stand out.[/quote]
ha yeah, well with the population that are generally residents in a prison infections such as this are common from various sources.
But they do have bleach available on the unit to “clean” with, or disinfect needles with, or put in the microwave mixed with butter and sugar to boil and then throw in someones face.
One inmate was found with a cut in his arm before and a drinking straw shoved in to try and get drugs into the blood stream that way.
The creativity and recklessness is endless with these guys. [/quote]
Oh I don’t doubt that…but that is a far cry from an inmate doing a full cycle in prison with no interruptions.
What you described makes it seem as if that would be very difficult.
And thanks for staying on topic despite the attempt by some others to throw it off track.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh I don’t doubt that…but that is a far cry from an inmate doing a full cycle in prison with no interruptions.
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You seem to be harping on the “full cycle without any interruptions” part.
Spend a few minutes on any steroid forum and you’ll quickly realize that there are tons of fucking idiots using FAR from optimal cycling procedures that are still seeing a lot of results.
Using steroids in a less than optimal way is still using steroids and you’re still going to see results.
“full cycle without interruptions” > less than optimal cycle > natty.
I am a bit confused about the ‘full cycle’ as well.
I asked a buddy at the gym who has done some time and he said that this is what they did:
The smuggled in one or two plungers and pumps and one thick drawing needle. Then they tried to get as many of the detachable needles as they could get. 1 inches, he said. Bunched together in a small plastic container they are quite easy to stick where the sun doesn’t shine.
Once that was done, and it was in no way shape or form easy (very often they failed to receive what they asked for), they would smuggle in a few bottles of test.
His cycle was 500 mg of test (whatever form he could get) once a week, for 10-12 weeks. Sometimes a few weeks of orals, again whatever they could get their hands on and if lucky some PCT. He was able to get his hands on Clomid once and Nolva a few times.
So, very simple and enough to have him gain a solid 15lbs in 18 months ( 3 cycles, he said).
He confirmed the eating, sleeping and training part. He also mentioned that we was quite lucky and quite a few inmates could never get their hands on steroids or anything else. He also mentioned that he was surprised how many guys got jacked from just doing hours of bodyweight stuff every day.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
I am a bit confused about the ‘full cycle’ as well.
I asked a buddy at the gym who has done some time and he said that this is what they did:
The smuggled in one or two plungers and pumps and one thick drawing needle. Then they tried to get as many of the detachable needles as they could get. 1 inches, he said. Bunched together in a small plastic container they are quite easy to stick where the sun doesn’t shine.
Once that was done, and it was in no way shape or form easy (very often they failed to receive what they asked for), they would smuggle in a few bottles of test.
His cycle was 500 mg of test (whatever form he could get) once a week, for 10-12 weeks. Sometimes a few weeks of orals, again whatever they could get their hands on and if lucky some PCT. He was able to get his hands on Clomid once and Nolva a few times.
So, very simple and enough to have him gain a solid 15lbs in 18 months ( 3 cycles, he said).
He confirmed the eating, sleeping and training part. He also mentioned that we was quite lucky and quite a few inmates could never get their hands on steroids or anything else. He also mentioned that he was surprised how many guys got jacked from just doing hours of bodyweight stuff every day.
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Did he say why he could get stuff in and others could not? Outside connections or just knew the right people?
Yep, he knew one of the guards and there was a guy on the inside who liked him and seemingly could get his hands on anything for the right price. He paid triple the price for a bottle and arranged for payment through a family member (his brother, I believe) who would pay for groceries for the other inmates family members.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Yep, he knew one of the guards and there was a guy on the inside who liked him and seemingly could get his hands on anything for the right price. He paid triple the price for a bottle and arranged for payment through a family member (his brother, I believe) who would pay for groceries for the other inmates family members.[/quote]
Fascinating…did he mention how long he was in for?
On Jan.13th, I finished a 5 year stay in Ohio’s lovely prison system. I walked in, Jan.2009, at 228lbs., with 8% BF. I walked out at 190lbs, and 15% BF. I trained 4-5 times per week and got incredibly strong at pullups, handstand pushups, and pistol squats. I jumped rope or ran sprints 2-3 times per week.
Cable weight machines were available, but were mostly utilized by guys fresh of the street with drugs still running rampant through their bloodstreams. I didn’t mess with them.
A typical day’s diet consisted of peanut butter & jelly on white bread, corn flakes, and 2 cups of milk for breakfast; 2 hot dogs, vegetable soup, egg noodles, white bread, and canned fruit for lunch; beef stroganoff, instant mashed potatoes, canned vegetables, and more canned fruit was supper.
Do the figuring, and Ohio doesn’t exactly supply the best muscle and health supporting meals for it’s inmates. I snacked on rolled oats, peanut butter, and dried milk from the commissary twice each day.
At my pathetic body comp, I was still the biggest, most athletic “honky” at my institution. Powerlifters and bodybuilders rotated through the doors, but if their stay was longer than 6 months, they quickly lost resemblance to their former condition. I have no idea where the guys in these videos were locked up, but their condition is impossible to attain in Ohio.
18 months. Served time only once. Assault charge. He beat up a guy that hit him and instead of leaving it at that, he also went after a buddy of the guy. Beat them both up pretty bad. Dumb move. Too much to drink. There were witnesses and if he had just beaten up the guy who hit him first he would have not spend time in jail.
He just lost it he said and simply couldn’t stop himself from going after the other guy.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
I am a bit confused about the ‘full cycle’ as well.
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Basically, it’s so when someone mentions that getting steroids into a prison IS POSSIBLE (likely or not, it’s possible), he can backtrack and say “I didn’t say steroids couldn’t get into prisons, I said no one’s running full cycles in prison.”
I think most of the guys inside (and I am speaking on a general standpoint), really don’t know what a “proper” or “structured” cycle would look like. I think when they do get their hands on any type of steroids they just take what they have based on what their “bro” told them they should do.
Some of the most humerus things I have ever heard have been on a unit when someone starts giving workout advice to someone else, between made up anatomy, theories…ect. Its just pure gold.
[quote]Klein709 wrote:
Some of the most humerus things I have ever heard have been on a unit when someone starts giving workout advice to someone else, between made up anatomy, theories…ect. Its just pure gold. [/quote]
I hope that was intentional. Made me laugh either way.
