Well, just started a new cycle of Test this week and am doing enth for the first 6 weeks, then prop the remaining 6 weeks. I’m using a dbol kickstart 30mg ed as well. For my enanthate I have to do 2 x 3ml shots, one in each injection site. But I couldn’t wait for the test enanthate from Monday’s 450mg shots to kick in, so this evening I pinned 200mg of test propionate.
I tried doing it in the butt like everyone says it’s supposed to, but I must have a sensitive ass, because it hurt like hell just putting the needle halfway in. So I pulled it out of the glute.
In the name of science, I have decided to inject the propionate into my outer quad.
I think my legs are tougher than my ass for some reason, lol. I guess everyone’s made differently.
So far it feels no different to injecting the enanthate. There is a little lump I can feel in the muscle, I guess that’s where the 2ml of oil is sitting. I don’t think the propionate is as painful as everyone reports it to be. I’m using veterinary 100mg/ml Australian gear.
I guess I’ll have to wait till next morning to see how it feels! lol
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Well, just started a new cycle of Test this week and am doing enth for the first 6 weeks, then prop the remaining 6 weeks. I’m using a dbol kickstart 30mg ed as well. For my enanthate I have to do 2 x 3ml shots, one in each injection site. But I couldn’t wait for the test enanthate from Monday’s 450mg shots to kick in, so this evening I pinned 200mg of test propionate.
So far it feels no different to injecting the enanthate. There is a little lump I can feel in the muscle, I guess that’s where the 2ml of oil is sitting. I don’t think the propionate is as painful as everyone reports it to be. I’m using veterinary 100mg/ml Australian gear.
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Wow I guess I would be looking for a more concentrated gear selection, perhaps better off with a 250mg/ml or something ?
Just seems like alot (2 X 3ml)of oil for the quad per stick yeoww
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Well, just started a new cycle of Test this week and am doing enth for the first 6 weeks, then prop the remaining 6 weeks.
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What was your reasoning for that?
also, you’re not going to feel enth in one day, probably not in one week either. Just pick a dosing schedule and stick to it.
Since the gear is very low concentrated, just inject more often so the injections will be smaller, and try some new locations.
[quote]firestanggt wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Well, just started a new cycle of Test this week and am doing enth for the first 6 weeks, then prop the remaining 6 weeks.
What was your reasoning for that?
also, you’re not going to feel enth in one day, probably not in one week either. Just pick a dosing schedule and stick to it.
Since the gear is very low concentrated, just inject more often so the injections will be smaller, and try some new locations.
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The basic reason is that it’s all I could get. I’d rather have a single testosterone ester to work with, but due to living in OZ, there’s been a few busts going on which caused a drought in AAS supply. As well as mail ordering to this country being very tough.
The half life of enanthate is around 10.5 days, so half of it will be active in my system by next week and it should begin to take effect.
Propionate is very fast acting, from 1-2 days, so I just did it for an extra kickstart.
You said you used two injections of 3ml a piece for your enanthate. Just out of curiosity, what’s the concentration on it and how often are you injecting? I don’t think anyone here will disagree with me when I say that 6ml of enan at one time sounds like quite a bit.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Mr.Bill wrote:
Wow I guess I would be looking for a more concentrated gear selection, perhaps better off with a 250mg/ml or something ?
Just seems like alot (2 X 3ml)of oil for the quad per stick yeoww
Well you would be looking for a long time, haha.
You see prop only really comes in 100mg/ml conc and this is because the short prop ester is harder to dissolve at higher concentrations than longer esters like enan or cyp.
This is prtly why I don’t favour prop myself.
That, and the fact that a fair proportion of the population experience a mild allergic reaction to prop at the injection site that can cause almost crippling pain.
Actually, if I found test prop at 250mg/ml, I would run like hell in the other direction, cursing the fiendish mind that had concocted it.
Bushy
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He said “For my enanthate I have to do 2 x 3ml shots” That was the reason for mentioning the higher concentration stuff.
[quote]World1187 wrote:
You said you used two injections of 3ml a piece for your enanthate. Just out of curiosity, what’s the concentration on it and how often are you injecting? I don’t think anyone here will disagree with me when I say that 6ml of enan at one time sounds like quite a bit. [/quote]
The enanthate concentration is called Ropel, which is intended for use in sheep. Baaaaaaaaa!
It’s only 75mg/ml of enanthate which is why you’ve gotta do two big shots of it!
So far, it is now the next morning, and the propionate shot is definitely more sore than the two enth ones, although it’s nothing to write home about.
It’s not crippling pain, probably due to the quality and low BA content of the gear. I could probably still do squats on this leg, although I’m glad that today isn’t leg day!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Yeah it might have been better to use the prop at the start and end to kickstart and closeout the cycle.
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Yeah I was thinking of that, but it all takes too much mental calculation with half-lives and determining how much concentration would hit the bloodstream at a given periond of time, etc.
So far it feels no different to injecting the enanthate. There is a little lump I can feel in the muscle, I guess that’s where the 2ml of oil is sitting. [/quote]
I had a buddy that did the same thing… apparently his needle wasnt long enough to get into his leg and he had this lump also… well i guess after awhile it got infected and he had to get the lump amputated…he has a hole there now… so, yea, be careful
I personally dont feel any pain from prop. I still would of combined the two for the duration of your cycle shooting E3D.
No need to waste anymore of the prop trying to pick up the process. Thats what the d bol is for.
Correction. Most newbies use glutes.
Others use everything calves, bis, tris you name it.
Spot injections do the trick on lagging bodyparts for many especialy used with caverject.
Last but not least using just glutes may live you with a big ass.
