Just my 2 cents on nandrolone
I use trt and add 500 deca for 12 weeks, my libido increases and my erections are harder. Go figure
Btw I’ve been running deca for about 20 years…
Libido wont “crash”, most likely. Young men have fairly low estrogen, estrogen does increase with age (so does health complications). Young men do not have sky-high estrogen like people on here love to parrot. Ideally they have high testostrogen and low(ish)/moderate estrogen levels.
And estrogen has been shown to be very destructive in high levels, too, there are many studies on this, even if this forum for some reason is in some kind of phase where people absolutely deny everything bad about estrogen. 2 years from now, people will have changed their mind (again). That is the nature of forums.
Yes, libido issues, 3 years on TRT, SOLVED, 100% done and fixed.
Deca is giving me the androgens I need without the large aromatisation to estrogen, thats how Teijan described it to me. He himself cannot tolerate more than 50mg of testosterone a week, cause of estrogen.
It was what I thought all the time, but people kept telling me estrogen is great and all shit, NOPE, estrogen killed my libido completely, as I thought.
The effects were imidate, after dropping testosterone (propionate) and 4 days on NPP, I have the libido as I had as a 13 year old watching porn for the first time.
Its incredible.
Do not listen to the naysayers, forums like these tend to make people believe 100% in one thing and refuse to change their mind, its the hive mind, flock mentality, its human nature.
TRY IT OUT yourself, if testosterone dont work for you, try NPP, give it 2 weeks atleast, it works? Great, there u go. If not? Oh well atleast you gave it a try.
By the way: In studies, deca reduce prolactin. Testosterone increase it. Go figure.
Yes, Ive had shoulder issues (rotator cuff) for over 5 years (fucked up my shoulder trying to bench 190kg by myself).
2 damn weeks on NPP and the pain is gone, 100% solved, completely. Its absolutely incredible this compound, my joints feel as when I was 16, super smooth.
Visual efects: zero bloat, as with testosterone. Zero face bloat, my face is smooth, square, just as before testosterone. Muscles are very “full” but not full as when your on testosterone cycle with tons and tons of water weight, no, they are poppin, round and full, difficult to explain.
Search thru different body building forums where guys ran NPP/deca only and/or with dbol, they all report the same effects.
Testosterone combined with these things can be problematic for many, tho.
I will check my health markers 3 months from now, then 6, then 1 year, I pray to god they will be nice, if so, ive finally found a long term solution.
When you say 100%, even mentally? You feel sharp and ready to go? Motivated and all that jazz?
Honestly thats incredible. However the thought of nandrolone does scare me. Hopefully i won’t need it but it’s something i really need to strongly consider if i’m struggling.
You should definitely make a thread and document how you’re feeling and your bloodwork through out.
Y’all getting NPP from a clinic???
1 Like
Nope, don’t agree at all. I’ve seen teenager blood tests and e to T is high but in ratio. From what I can see you’re on 300mg NPP weekly but have only been for a few weeks. Let’s talk again at week 12. I hope it works for you, let’s see.
I’m one who used to control E with Adex and no longer bother with it, I haven’t looked back. You obviously struggle which is why I hope this works for you but I’m skeptical. Let us know.
1 Like
Can you show me at least one interventional study where such harm is being shown? I was looking very hard and I found none.
1 Like
Right now 100% sharp mentally, I HAVE HEARD, from some people, that they might get too little DHT, in which they add small dose proviron to their protocol, thats what I will do if my “mental aggressiveness” goes down, but so far all good. Im just happy I have a great libido again, and not just great but fucking awesome.
Now I just wanna want and see, and check my blood work to see if all is good.
Ive heard some people add super small doses of testosterone to it, if they want some more estrogen, im taling like 40mg of test a week added to the protocol or something, but I dont wanna do it now cause I dont wanna fuck up my libido again.
And for the gentleman asking if i get it from clinic … noo, fuck swedish clinics they know nothing, I just get mine from the black market, way better than being low T naturally that sucked ass.
Anyone know timeline of effects of deca? Is it similar to Test, being like 6-8 weeks to notice effect, or shorter/longer? Feeling pretty shitty right now, but only been on this protocol for 2 weeks. I’m thinking since I’m taking lower Test, and I’ve been on the test awhile, that my T levels are gonna drop first before the deca raises them, so maybe that’s why I feel so shitty right now?
I was curious about nandralone having a much higher binding affinity than test cyp, and how that would work with low SHBG. If it binds better, maybe it would be helpful to people with low SHBG? SHBG protects androgens, so if more of the nandralone binds to it, and makes it where it needs to go along with the bit of test cyp that makes it, it could work better for low SHBG people? This is theory of course.
I have no idea, I have very low shbg and so far it works amazingly well for me. Regarding your question: NPP “kicked in” in a matter of days for me.
Describe how ya feel. Im taking ONLY npp, not testosterone. Many claim that even the slightest testosterone added to deca/npp makes them feel weird: That only deca/npp feels way better.
For those who wants more androgens, they usually use proviron and/or masteron with it.
I know NPP works alot faster, Deca is slower, from what I found on Google, it’s about 4 weeks of so.
When you get your bloodwork back let me know. I’m still on this 70mg/70mg protocol for 7 more weeks.
Bloodwork suggests it takes about 4-5 weeks to show effects (at least for me) and the way I feel physically seems to line up with that. This is for Deca, not NPP
Did you have any futrther mental benefits? Improvement in libido and erections?
Whats so funny about all this is how this HRT stuff is so incredible individual. Some people, they notice effects very quickly with testosterone, others, takes weeks or even months. Some people, do well on every 3rd day injections, but TERRIBLE on every other day or every day (or every 7th day) with the SAME dosage.
Some people, do not respond well to nandro, others, incredible well.
Its just so fucking random and individual all this shit, really crazy when u think about it. Its like more an art than science almost.
1 Like
I on 200mg per week of Test Cyp and have taken 200mg per week of Deca along with the test for a few months. Never once had erection problems…actually I feel I could cut diamonds with my boner. Wife noticed my erections were harder too… strange how everyone responds differently to Deca.
Deca did raise my blood pressure though. I’m usually 120/70 and it bumped me up to 140/80 and some times it’d be 150/85. I know if was the deca because I eat really strict and am very fit (usually run 2.5 to 5 miles per day, can squat 350, and can bench press 315 with a pause).
Just some info to add to your quiver.
Yeah, well I don’t know if this is a positive or a negative but sex is constantly on my mind and generally require sex at least 2-3x a day, which can interfere with everyday activities. Hasn’t been an issue during the quarantine but my wife is probably ready to kill me.
My BP increased as well, but went down after I donated blood. My BP range has always been all over the place though, anxiety/stress is the cause though…if I take a Xanax I’m 115/70.