[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Zraw or stronghold: I would love an answer on this and Im not picking a fight Im honestly curious and want to keep this intellectual.
Youre claiming calories are the overall precursor for weight gain not carb sources not insulin.
If the carbs are coming from good sources, then there should not be any problem with fat gain. (Its not actually about weight gain but fat gain, this is what some people get confused when arguing cals vs carbs.)
So lets say it IS about cals, always has been, total calories consume vs. expended.
Most people on the Indigo-3G Project have completely upped their cal intake and possibly their cal out put. At the same time though, they have dramatically upped their carb intake (theres no carb output though).
But, and here is where I am confused regarding this debate, Indigo-3G isnt a caloric nutrient repartion-er its a carb repartion-er. Their overall cals may have increased but most of them are coming from carb sources. As the article even says “Research has proven that C3G has a powerful effect on insulin signaling and glucose management.”
Its known that Insulin is a powerful muscle growth promoter. There is nothing in a calorie that promotes muscle gain, correct? (Im seriously asking) If that were true, that calories promote muscle gain, I could go on a low protein, low carb, high fat diet and gain muscle because the calorie is causing the growth.
But thats not what this product does, it uses insulin to promote the growth. Its a “glucose management” product. Most of the team members were having problems with weight gain from carb sources not over all cal, right? A switch has been flipped now where they can intake higher amounts of carbs, with little or no change in cals and lose weight and gain muscle because the Indigo-3G directs insulin signaling.
So how is it all about the cals?
“It’s the fat cell that sends all of the molecular signals for glucose and nutrient uptake in both fat and lean tissue. This is especially important because it’s the nutrient uptake that has the most impact (not androgens) on gaining muscle.” --its not the cals its calling for its the glucose?
“Unfortunately, insulin is anabolic in both muscle and fat. But by decreasing the effects of insulin on fat and increasing the effects of insulin on muscle, you can achieve what no one thought was possible and turn the common man into a bodybuilding genetic freak.” --by this statement alone it would be concluded that insulin is the culprit and cause of weight and muscle gain or lose. Because its not the cal from protein or fat causing the problem its the glucose and insulin release from the carb source. In this quote it says that its the + or - in insulin that effects in increase/decrease in muscle or fat.
Inflammation isnt caused by +/- or overall cals its caused by insulin.
Even the rules for I3G say to ignore cals - the focus is on carbs.
Am I reading this right?
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Please refer to the thread “carb source doesnt matter” for infos on this. There is also a link to an article in the later pages
It should cover all questions.
Ppl that were fat because of “carbs”… my guess ? They had a shitty diet with more calories than they tought.
I also think these ppl eating habits changed when starting Indigo-3G.
If indeed they didnt change their cal # and didnt change their carbs # at the start and started to notice fatloss well this just mean the product really does work…
Lets just pretend before Indigo-3G someone had an excess of 500 calories… and than started Indigo-3G… supposedly Indigo-3G would send these 500 “excess” calories in the muscle cells instead of fat cells… right? Bye bye the extra 500 calories
Anyways, go read the thread, its not anectodal stuff its tried stuff (about the carb source and all)