[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
Maybe try dropping the Nolva and just run the adex and see how your joints feel.[/quote]
Agreed. Arimidex and SERM’s have anti-synergistic relationship, meaning the presence of both subtracts from the effects of each.[/quote]
Balla is this just adex or do other AIs do this?
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
Maybe try dropping the Nolva and just run the adex and see how your joints feel.[/quote]
Agreed. Arimidex and SERM’s have anti-synergistic relationship, meaning the presence of both subtracts from the effects of each.[/quote]
Balla is this just adex or do other AIs do this?[/quote]
The study I’m referencing only studied Arimidex. I believe, but can’t be certain, that another study was performed showing that Aromasin doesn’t have that effect.
I can’t really get my head around the actual chemical process that would make it happen with Arimidex, so I can’t even venture a logical guess as to whether it would or would not occur with Aromasin as well. Though, intuitively, I suspect it does not.
diet day 41:
150g whey, 2 cups berries, banana,coconut oil, .75lb tilapia, lots of spinach, lots of peas, carrots and cauliflower, .75lb ground beef, 1 gallon 50/50 gatorade/water, a few handfulls of sweet potato fries.
I’ve been starving all day. No time to eat. I need to pick up some serious quantities of meat and get back to preping and eating more immediately. While the whole milk will stay out (my girl refuses to sleep in the same room as me from the snoring) my diet will indefinitely include a minimum 3lbs meat/day.
What I have read Nolva actually reduces the plasma levels of the arimidex by 30% but adex had no effect on the Nolva. Nolva and aromasin showed no impact on decreasing the effectiveness of either. Not saying this is fact, just what I have read.
cool, I won’t worry about combining aromasin and serms. Thanks guys
You tell all the diet stuff accurately, but I’d be curious what does your lifting program look like now? 
@NikH, The last few weeks have been catch-as-catch can. I focus on progress always though. I haven’t put the training stuff up because I have a log elsewhere for that but I’ll start giving at least the gist of what I’m into from here out.
Here’s the last 3 weeks of training, I trained 13 of the last 20 days with two workouts a few days.
day 23:
Worked to a max for the day with a safety squat bar. Accumulated 6 singles over 90%, including the max, then backed off and did five doubles ascending from 80-90%. Followed this with some standing barbell press work, 50 total pull-ups and 50 TRX rows.
day 24:
Squatted 80% for 5 doubles and a light, fast back off set x10. All beltless.
day 25:
am: 1/2hr fasted cardio, then worked to a max for the day in the high-bar back squat. 12 total reps @80+% of that weight working up in singles with a 90%x5 back-off. All fasted.
pm: three heavy sets of bench press, 18 total reps. 45 reps of light incline benching, some curls and massive amounts of band pull-aparts and light machine flies.
day 26:
am: 1/2hr fasted cardio
pm: 50 total reps of high-bar squatting including all warm-ups. Only worked to 75% of previous days single, 3x3. 100 reps total neck harness. Quick pm workout to get a sweat and groove the squat.
day 27:
squatted to a beltless low-bar single then backed off and squatted to a new high-bar PR single. 11 total reps in singles @90%+ of the respective single for the day. Proceded then to pump up the lats on some machines, DC style.
day 28:
Pump session with dumbbells for the chest and back. Squatted quickly to 315x5. Treated it like cardio. No belt, 10 minutes including all warm-ups for the squatting.
day 29:
fasted cardio then squatted with the manta-ray pad for 6 doubles @90% of high-bar max and a light, fast back-off of 225x10. Light shrugs and face-pulls.
day 32:
65 total reps of squatting, basically an extended warm-up. Lots of volume alternating medium-heavy close grip bench and machine rows. Curls.
day 34:
Worked up to a single in the standing barbell press. 11 or 12 total reps @90+% of max and an 80+% rep-max set. DB bench drop set, cable row drop set, a few sets of light pull-downs.
day 36:
Benched up to a max pause triple, then a touch-and-go rep-max @90% of that triple. 16 total reps @90+% triple weight. Squat warm-ups, some 90%+ deadlift singles and a bunch of BB rows and curls.
day 39:
Pressed 5 heavy doubles (90%+) and a rep-max with 80+%. Lots of heavy deadlift reps, heavy db shrug drop set, face-pulls, chins, pull-downs and push-ups.
day 40:
Row 2k @75% pace. 12x100m sprints with 1 minute coasting/rest. ~5k total rowed.
day 42:
High-bar squat, 12 total reps @80%, then 70%x10.
diet day 42:
150g whey, 2 cups berries, banana, coconut oil, 12" subway double chicken breast on flatbread, 1lb lamb, pasta, 16oz whole milk, chobani yogurt.
diet day 43:
150g whey, 20oz half-and-half latte, 4 eggs, 1/2 cup cheese, 2/3 brick scrapple, 1/2 bag tostitos, salsa, 1.5lb ground beef, pretzels.
One very hectic day and one very lazy day. Starting in on more food tomorrow. Need to bump the carbs up but I hate carbs. I honestly don’t enjoy eating “quality” sources - they’re not enjoyable, they fuck my appetite up and they’re a hassle to transport, reheat, etc.
Interesting. Do you have any specific goals training wise when you mention squatting, chest? Is your main goal getting bigger or stronger, or both? If size is a priority and chest a secondary goal, you might give german volume training 2weeks and see how you respond, it’s easier for the joints too.
What ever you decide, I hope you keep extra focused for the weeks you are juiced and wish you the best results. And keep lifting after the cycle
Impressive results. Keep up the good work.
Shelby Starnes and John Meadows both have tons of appetite suppression techniques, I suggest you try a couple of these, especially if your hunger is detracting from your workouts or quality of life.
-PTD
Diet day 44:
150g whey, 75g waxy, 2 cups berries, banana, coconut oil, fish oil, 4 KFC original breasts with no skin, small mashed potatos, small green beans, 2 biscuits, working on a pound of chicken thighs and some spinach now. Need to find a carbohydrate to force feed myself with.
Traning day 44:
Standing strict pressed to a heavy single then did 15 reps at 85%, 30 total bodyweight pullups, 40 total pullups with a 25lb plate, with 100 total pushups mixed in between.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I eat the shit outta ground turkey. Me personally my body loves carbs so I’m lucky I can eat carbs all day, but I always eat clean carbs for the most part and avoid fruit and milk for the most part[/quote]
How come you avoid fruits? What does the milk do to your system are you lactose intolerant?
[quote]tattoo’d’popeye wrote:
Can I ask if your on any prescription drugs? Only reason I ask is that many bipolar,anxiety, and sleeping meds really jack up your Cholesterol and HDL values. If not don’t worry about it, run some niacin during the day and it will bring your HDL up.[/quote]
How long does it take niacin to have an effect on HDL?
[quote]incredulous wrote:
Diet day 36:
200g whey, 75g waxy, 2cups berries, coconut, banana, 8oz ground beef, tortillas, sour cream and cheese, chicken wings, 16oz milk, pint of stout, pint of cider.
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What carbs do you have before workouts? Sweet potato and oatmeal are my friends for crushing leg days. Sweet potatoes are high in vitamins A and C and low in fat.
I’m so lonely.
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I eat the shit outta ground turkey. Me personally my body loves carbs so I’m lucky I can eat carbs all day, but I always eat clean carbs for the most part and avoid fruit and milk for the most part[/quote]
How come you avoid fruits? What does the milk do to your system are you lactose intolerant?
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I guess I should rephrase that, I eat fruits usually first thing in the morning or before/after workouts. But usually when I’m cutting ill avoid them just to avoid the extra sugars, same goes with the milk.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
[quote]conservativedog wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I eat the shit outta ground turkey. Me personally my body loves carbs so I’m lucky I can eat carbs all day, but I always eat clean carbs for the most part and avoid fruit and milk for the most part[/quote]
How come you avoid fruits? What does the milk do to your system are you lactose intolerant?
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I guess I should rephrase that, I eat fruits usually first thing in the morning or before/after workouts. But usually when I’m cutting ill avoid them just to avoid the extra sugars, same goes with the milk.[/quote]
Anyone familiar with garcinia cabogia extract?
I have no idea if this is snake oil or the real deal. Sounds like they have clinical proof to back up claims. The video is worth sitting through:
http://www.smart-lifestyles.net/weight-loss-tip/?camp=US_WH&sesskey=08523226b1cdfd74767cd1f1f117818e
I don’t eat preworkout carbs. I probably should but I can’t lift hard with anything recent in my belly. The fruit I consume is usually all in my breakfast shake. I do berries,a banana, coconut oil and 100g whey everyday. I’ll nurse that for a few hours.
Otherwise I’ll eat fruit because I need to get some carbs and it’s convenient. The milk is always at night with a late dinner and since I train most days, it fits nicely. Without the milk now i’m rarely over 200g carbs which is less than ideal. I’ll agree that the fruit and milk soften me up but that softness doesn’t hang around long once I drop it. Some late afternoon oats are probably my best bet since they’re easy.
Diet day 45:
175g whey, 75g waxy, 2 cups berries, banana, coconut oil, apple, 2 lbs b.s. chicken thighs, 2 cups dry oats, 1 chobani yogurt.
Training day 45:
Squat 40 total reps @ 70%
