Nutrition isn’t something that only works if you divide your nutrients evenly between the foods you eat during the day.
If someone is not adding excess fat while bulking, then if they can increase calories and still not be adding excess fat, then they are better off.
Whoa, maybe the trick is to adjust your eating to your situation. Holy crap. Imagine that! Maybe one size doesn’t really fit all?
Explain to me, the nutrional damage incurred by eating chicken breasts, then deciding to augment that with either some calories dense fat source or calorie dense carbohydrate source?
Hell, go for fat free sherbet ice cream after your chicking breast meal and slam that protein into your cells. Alternately, mow down a huge chunk of low carb cheesecake for dessert.
Either way, unless you are obsessed, you’ve done nothing wrong (other than the fact my example has no fibre or veggies anyway).
Personally, I’m enjoying a bulking phase right now. After workouts I’m visiting the all I can eat buffet. Oh yeah! Could I eat cleaner? Sure. Could I bulk with less fat gain, undoubtedly. Do I care?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Explain to me, the nutrional damage incurred by eating chicken breasts, then deciding to augment that with either some calories dense fat source or calorie dense carbohydrate source?
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Clearly, time stops and you instantly add 50lbs of body fat. It appears that some think that food falls into categories easily like, “good food” and “bad food”. Does it not matter what the overall daily caloric needs of the individual are? While a calorie may not just be a calorie, is the human body so spastic as to fall apart should you add in a hamburger in spite of your overall attention to diet? Does this mean you have now gained less muscle mass? The human body has never been that flaccid in terms of using fuel. Your activity level, metabolism and genetics have even more of a role to play than just whether you had cottage cheese instead of a slice of pizza at 1pm last Saturday.
I could see this attention to detail when dieting because too many mistakes in food amounts or ratios of macronutrients could lead to more muscle lost and less fat lost. When gaining, the goal is a constant positive nitrogen balance…something much harder to maintain if you ONLY focus on protein. The expectation that some seem to have as if they will only add lean body mass when gaining is something I expect to see promoted in thermogenic ads in magazines, not by anyone who has been lifting and making progress for years.
Of course, if you have a very slow metabolism or happen to be one of those who gains fat extremely easy like true FFB’s like the article suggested, then of course a stricter approach to food intake is needed. I personally don’t think that the label applies to everyone who seems to want to use it, however.
[quote]rafael wrote:
I am also curious about prof X’s stats please share : D[/quote]
I pm’d you that information. I have no intention of openly promoting my own progress unless I decide to compete in the future. The previous poster was pm’d as well.
well i thin im going to go woth the prof i will start eating some un-clean foods but also be consuming good foods i’ll do like a 80% good and 20% intake of that. Also since i am 125 pounds and i do have a kind of have a fast metabolism i find it that now that i am eating more… like the next day i tend to get more hungry in between meals…i should be intaking at least 3,000 calories or a little bit more to gain weight. Also i will be starting an exercise routine which is the one form ian kings book book of muscles. Thanks for all the information and i’ll be posting if i gain any weight. For your guys knowledge how fast do you think i would gain about 40 pounds(or would i need since when i cut down i will loose muscle volume or idk, i have no knowledge what so ever so you guys cna tell me how much is reasonable for me to gain) cause i dont want to bulk that much that i look really big, i just want to have a nice lean body that shows every muscle with abs and the oubliques making the “V”, but also have volume so they stand out i.e. the guy from blade trinity that plays hannibal king, Ryan Reynolds his physique is very nice and thats what i strive on doing with my body. Here is a picture of what he looks like for those who dont know who he is. I got this from a mens health forum
[quote]JPBear wrote:
Some people are skinny not because they have a fast metabolism, but because they don’t ever have much of an appetite. mateirox23 thinks he is eating massive amounts of food, even though he is not.
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You run into this problem a lot with people. The skinny people think they’re eating like hogs (“God, I ate TWO chicken breasts today. I can’t figure out why I’m not huge.”), and the fat people think that they’re on a diet (“I had a DIET Coke at the theater with my large popcorn and candy. I can’t figure out why I’m not losing weight.”)
This is why a FOOD JOURNAL is so important. If you write down everything you eat–with macros–all of a sudden, you know exactly where you are and exactly where you have to do to get to where you want to be.
It really takes things from the realm of guesswork into the realm of science. Or if not science, then at least bodybuilding.
Dan “You can’t play the game until you start keeping score.” McVicker