Illegal Alien Hit and Run Driver

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Deorum wrote:
Ignore facts? I presented facts and have yet to even show more than a mere passing fancy in this topic. I am simply interjecting an economic and furthermore unbiased viewpoint into this shit throwing storm led by resident white broad in the ghetto mexicano neighborhood.

It is not economically beneficial to our country to outsource jobs and to have an economy solely based off of fiat trading. Without actually producing goods our false economy will collapse, as evident by the current economic situation. [/quote]

You did not present any facts.

You interjected an ignorant viewpoint.

Stop mixing apples and oranges. This is not about outsourcing. Mexicans are not causing the outsourcing, neither is the minimum wage.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

A bet is based on an uncertainty, meaning, you are guessing you know. Yah,… you are ignorant.

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Also your a damned horrible better. [/quote]

You are… not “your”.

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Am I high? Oh god is this the type of witty, intelligent person I am arguing with? In a free economy these jobs would be held be AMERICANS not illegals. It is by creating a limited economy we present the illegal immigrants a chance to make a living off of the minimum wage. The same concept is applied in outsourcing. Beloved Russia? I cannot believe I am arguing with someone with such a limited intelligence… I have been condemning Russia and Marxism in every post… You are absolutely painful to argue with.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6484

More eloquent than I.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

A bet is based on an uncertainty, meaning, you are guessing you know. Yah,… you are ignorant.

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Also your a damned horrible better. [/quote]

You are… not “your”.

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Is this honestly what you pass as an argument? Pitiful…

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
Am I high? Oh god is this the type of witty, intelligent person I am arguing with? In a free economy these jobs would be held be AMERICANS not illegals. It is by creating a limited economy we present the illegal immigrants a chance to make a living off of the minimum wage. The same concept is applied in outsourcing. Beloved Russia? I cannot believe I am arguing with someone with such a limited intelligence… I have been condemning Russia and Marxism in every post… You are absolutely painful to argue with.[/quote]

What is your definition of a free economy?

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[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

A bet is based on an uncertainty, meaning, you are guessing you know. Yah,… you are ignorant.

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Also your a damned horrible better. [/quote]

You are… not “your”.

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Is this honestly what you pass as an argument? Pitiful…[/quote]

Oh it is just another example of how ignorant you are. Just all building up to your youth, ignorance, and lashing out when you can’t make a point.

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Also let me add that the minimum wage IS a Marxist philosophy. If this accepted fact is not yet assumed in this discussion then you need to further educate yourselves.

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Also let me add that the minimum wage IS a Marxist philosophy. If this accepted fact is not yet assumed in this discussion then you need to further educate yourselves.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
Am I high? Oh god is this the type of witty, intelligent person I am arguing with? In a free economy these jobs would be held be AMERICANS not illegals. It is by creating a limited economy we present the illegal immigrants a chance to make a living off of the minimum wage. The same concept is applied in outsourcing. Beloved Russia? I cannot believe I am arguing with someone with such a limited intelligence… I have been condemning Russia and Marxism in every post… You are absolutely painful to argue with.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6484

More eloquent than I. [/quote]

and why we have a minimum wage

http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~jkennan/palgrave.htm

[excerpt]
The most controversial finding was that when New Jersey raised the minimum wage to $5.05 in 1992, while the minimum in neighbouring Pennsylvania remained at the Federal level of $4.25, employment appeared to actually increase in New Jersey relative to Pennsylvania, after the change took effect.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

A bet is based on an uncertainty, meaning, you are guessing you know. Yah,… you are ignorant.

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Also your a damned horrible better. [/quote]

You are… not “your”.

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Is this honestly what you pass as an argument? Pitiful…[/quote]

Oh it is just another example of how ignorant you are. Just all building up to your youth, ignorance, and lashing out when you can’t make a point.
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lol… anyway OG-Mexican-gangbang-lover, back to topic.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:
Am I high? Oh god is this the type of witty, intelligent person I am arguing with? In a free economy these jobs would be held be AMERICANS not illegals. It is by creating a limited economy we present the illegal immigrants a chance to make a living off of the minimum wage. The same concept is applied in outsourcing. Beloved Russia? I cannot believe I am arguing with someone with such a limited intelligence… I have been condemning Russia and Marxism in every post… You are absolutely painful to argue with.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6484

More eloquent than I. [/quote]

and why we have a minimum wage

http://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~jkennan/palgrave.htm

[excerpt]
The most controversial finding was that when New Jersey raised the minimum wage to $5.05 in 1992, while the minimum in neighbouring Pennsylvania remained at the Federal level of $4.25, employment appeared to actually increase in New Jersey relative to Pennsylvania, after the change took effect.
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Your hopeless. Anyway if somebody more intelligent wishes to continue this argument I would be glad to contest them.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

[quote]Deorum wrote:

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

A bet is based on an uncertainty, meaning, you are guessing you know. Yah,… you are ignorant.

[/quote]

Also your a damned horrible better. [/quote]

You are… not “your”.

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Is this honestly what you pass as an argument? Pitiful…[/quote]

Oh it is just another example of how ignorant you are. Just all building up to your youth, ignorance, and lashing out when you can’t make a point.
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lol… anyway OG-Mexican-gangbang-lover, back to topic.
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And further exemplified.

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But they aren’t held by Americans, many of these jobs used to pay more, but because illegal aliens who will accept a slave wage have entered, it brought the entire paying wage down. It contributes to the law of averages in a negative way. How does a skilled worker who has learned his craft through apprenticeships compete with a guy at Home Depot who will do it for $5/hr? He can’t, so he has been cheated for all his hard work and effort.

We should not be offering illegal aliens a chance to make any money here, then automatically wages go up. Also free market principles keep prices in check. The law of Ebay, learn it dude.

I said nothing about minimum wage, you did. In fact, I have never even mentioned it any of my posts, if I did, show me or shut up about it.

Just remember something, you get what you pay for. When you pay shit, you get shit quality. Awesome !

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

…why is that, do you think?

Because America has a policy of not imposing Martial Law on the people except for times of extreme crisis. That includes the borders. The military is to be used on outside forces, but American citizens also use the border. So I am looking forward to a change.[/quote]

…land of the free, with walls surrounding it and men with guns to greet you. Has it really come to this?

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…civilian law enforcement? That does not mean the police, right? Are you suggesting that any civilian should be able to ask another person to identify themselves?

no, civilian meaning non-military such as our police force. Here in America we do have the right to make a citizen’s arrest.[/quote]

…so, a police officer can’t ask for i.d.? He must have a reasonable cause?

…in 2006 Europe had over half a million illegal immigrants coming in. Since it is impossible to prevent them from entering the mainland, legislators asked themselves why they come. As a result they tried to aid African nations to improve living conditions locally so that people don’t feel compelled to flee. That can also be part of a solution…

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

…in 2006 Europe had over half a million illegal immigrants coming in. Since it is impossible to prevent them from entering the mainland, legislators asked themselves why they come. As a result they tried to aid African nations to improve living conditions locally so that people don’t feel compelled to flee. That can also be part of a solution…[/quote]

Once again, why do you care? Can’t Europeans leave us to decide our immigration policies ourselves? Why must you all always concern yourselves with OUR business? (Sound familiar?)[/quote]

…just havin’ a bit of conversation here son, nothin’ more…

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[quote]ephrem wrote:

…land of the free, with walls surrounding it and men with guns to greet you. Has it really come to this? [/quote]

I sure hope so.

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…so, a police officer can’t ask for i.d.? He must have a reasonable cause? [/quote]

They can ask, but there is no law saying you have to carry I.D. Police officers have been barred from inquiring about citizenship status. Thankfully, that is going to change. In California, 1 in 5 prisoners in our prisons are illegal aliens.

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…and still they come, no matter the cost or risk involved. Closing off the borders is the only solution you see?[/quote]

We haven’t tried it yet, you still don’t get it. We’ve never had strong border enforcement.

What don’t you get about them immigrating legally?

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…in 2006 Europe had over half a million illegal immigrants coming in. Since it is impossible to prevent them from entering the mainland, legislators asked themselves why they come. As a result they tried to aid African nations to improve living conditions locally so that people don’t feel compelled to flee. That can also be part of a solution…[/quote]

Wow… poor ALL OF EUROPE had a mere 500,000 illegals. My STATE has 3,000,000.

Are you actually suggesting that America has done nothing to aid Mexico or even Africa for that matter. That was a really silly insinuation of yours.

I can guarantee you that our financial aid to impoverished countries is much greater than that of the Netherlands. Aid not just from the government but from private citizens. Are you aware of how much money, private and government, that the US sends out across the world?

So you tell me, do you have 600,000 illegal immigrants in the Netherlands? Immigrants that are not crossing a sea but are walking across an unenforced border? You do not have a grasp of the problem.

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Ephrem,

You are not going to win any argument when you state all of Europe has 500k illegal aliens, my city alone has 1 million illegals, and that is just a city, and like OG mentioned the entire state has 3 million all by itself.

The US is easily the most charitable country in the world, whenever there is a crisis somewhere in the world, we are there handing out money. Why? Because people feel since we have the money, we should. It is not our fault that our system allows us to make more money that other countries, at the same time we should not be expected or held accountable to pay for someone else’s shit.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
I got hit by a Caucasian woman on a crossing after one car (the one closest to me) had already stopped. She was going 60km/h (about 37-40 mph for you imperialists) when she hit me, and put me in hospital for a month. She also sped up after hitting me and tried to escape. She, however, was not in the country illegally.

It is disingenuous to relate both of these things together as you and the media are attempting to do now. He is a reckless driver. He is an illegal immigrant. These are separate issues.[/quote]

This joke of a thread should have stopped right here.

The only remotely interesting fact I can assert here is that it’s probably the first PWI thread in decades that is submitted by a female poster (who also happens to be smart, as we’ve been told) .

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[quote]

Makavali wrothe:
He is a reckless driver. He is an illegal immigrant. These are separate issues.
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
This joke of a thread should have stopped right here.

The only remotely interesting fact I can assert here is that it’s probably the first PWI thread in decades that is submitted by a female poster (who also happens to be smart, as we’ve been told) .[/quote]

One problem…Since he’s an illegal immigrant, he should’ve never been a driver–much less a reckless driver–on our roads. So, no. They’re not seperate issues by any stretch of the imagination.