If It Is Legal, Name It

[quote]etaco wrote:
FlavaDave wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
dextromethorphan (found in cold medicine)

If you do this please do not use coricidan (sp?) or anything with acetaminophen in it. Make sure the ingredient label reads dextromethorphan and nothing else.

This is a good rule in general. Acetaminophen can be some very nasty stuff. It’s somewhat ironic that the most dangerous component (in terms of deaths, od’s, etc.) in a few popular drugs of abuse is the most legal and most commonly used.[/quote]

Use and abuse are two very different things my friend.

P.S
Drugs are for LOSERS!

[quote]SeanT wrote:

GHB - Illegal but easily synthesized. I will not tell you how to make it, look online if you really want to. If you do make this, be sure to use food coloring. This can be overdosed on and by coloring it, people will not mistake it for water.

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It can be easily synthesized from GBL, but GBL is highly controlled in the US and Canada. I am on private source boards, and no one can find a reliable source of GBL.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
oooooh adderroll is like coke only a lot fuckin stronger, shit had me up on 6th gear for 3 days dude.

are you joking?[/quote]

New rule: if you can’t spell it, you can’t take it (or have a credible opinion on it, apparently).

edit: and I really haven’t met anyone who consistently has a good time on salvia (myself included). Some people always freak on it, even though they have a blast on 'shrooms (which would be my recommendation).

[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
SeanT wrote:

GHB - Illegal but easily synthesized. I will not tell you how to make it, look online if you really want to. If you do make this, be sure to use food coloring. This can be overdosed on and by coloring it, people will not mistake it for water.

It can be easily synthesized from GBL, but GBL is highly controlled in the US and Canada. I am on private source boards, and no one can find a reliable source of GBL. [/quote]

ah, I did not realize that GHB required GBL(I thought it was also synthesized in the process, but I reread the directions and I was mistaken).

Would synthesizing GBL require a vast knowledge of organic chem?

May I ask your experiences with GHB? I have heard it is like a laid back euphoric feeling, but I have never personally tried.

This is a kick;

source: CERI Q&A: Georgia, Land of Felons?

LOL beef ftw.

[quote]SeanT wrote:
FlavaDave wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

Salvia has never done much for me, feels like weed for about 20 minutes. I’ve seen people trip balls(they can not even stand up and start going like wtf, why am I in Mexico or some shit). Its way more expensive than weed, and I’d recommend just staying with weed.

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I only tried salvia after I had had a shit load of weed, I oculdn’t really tell, but it was a nice combo (being unable to focus on fear and loathing in las vegas)…TBH though I expected more from Salvia. It was similar to weed for me, I’ve seen videos of salvia effects, and that night I only saw one person acting that crazy.

I was also given one night by a friend some rosebud seeds, the recommended does was between 6 and 8, I had eight, they were supposed to be similar to 'shrooms, but were legal. The problem was my friend got them late, and couldn’t prepare them in time for the party (which took 2/3 days). They didn’t seem to have any effect on me (having only been boiled “for safety” lol), but a friend of mine hallucinated a tad.

Anyone tried them to back up the claim? They were legal and bought off the internet, so I’d have to experience the hallucinations to actually believe that they are really hallucinagenic, and not just some bullshit.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
oooooh adderroll is like coke only a lot fuckin stronger, shit had me up on 6th gear for 3 days dude.

are you joking?[/quote]

yea, april fools!

Is peyote legal? I know that it is legal for tribes to partake in it but, can’t you just order it off the net?

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
Is peyote legal? I know that it is legal for tribes to partake in it but, can’t you just order it off the net?[/quote]

No. Federal law makes all parts of the plant Lophophora williamsii Schedule 1 illegal drugs. This includes the seeds. Seeds of other species in the Lophophora genus, including L. diffusa, are not covered by federal law, although some states may have stricter local laws.

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=1448

the reason there are so many mixed reviews on salvia is because of the varying concentrations of the extract … some typical ranges are 5x 10x 20x and 40x

in regards to small bowl packed of each of these u would smoke a bowl all to urself which will only take 2-3 hits (burns fast and is easy to inhale)

5x - will feel slightly out of it possible very mild hallucinations lasts about 5 mins with a subtle afterglow

10x greater chance of hallucinations, much less conversational lasts about 5 mins sublte afterglow

20x definite hallucinations that will transcend u into a completely different or hybrid existence,(ive seen ppl fabricate entire lives while on this stuff, one guy thought he owned a zipper factory and had created transient memories of workers and inventories, one guy thought his head was a cog in a maching that kept turning, someone chased lasers they saw around the room, someone thought they were the middle line in the letter “H”) articulation is preserved but thoughts are seemingly random and irrational (to outside observers)

5x and maybe 10x are ok for casual use but 20x should be reserved for when u are looking to have “an experience” not just get high… also u should do this with at least one friend and take turns smoking so the sober one can watch the other one… ppl can have very intense rxns

DXM is solid as well for having really unique experiences… there are calculators online that allow u to type in ur bodyweight to figure out the proper dosing to get you to particular “plateaus” this will also help u to avoid an amount in which u would OD… try to get the gel caps that are 20mg a piece and take an entire bottle…

that will put u on plateau 1 or 2 which is solid… 3 gets scary … and 4 gets dangerous because its close to ODing… time gets extended like crazy on this shit in the high plateaus… minutes can literally feel like days

DXM and Salv are prolly the two most fucked up trips u can have done in high doses

Shrooms (which aren’t legal) are the solid choice for more consistent recreational use… i used to prefer to actually eat about 1/3 an eight when i did them, this gave me a good body buzz, really happy and laughy, but didn’t take me to far into the trip so that i coudn’t interact with ppl… 1/3 an eighth and some alcohol is good for social situations ive found

also erowid is the shit… its honestly the T-Nation of drug using… tons of fantastic information including testimonials on every drug u could ever think of

alot of the stuff on there can be bought just anywhere though… a good resource if it is still up is jmarchem which sells random chemicals and doesn’t require that u prove u work in a lab

I fucking hated salvia with a passion, I smoked leaves and 20x extract. Nothing good about that trip.

Anyway, morning glory seeds bought in the garden section contain LSA which is cousin to LSD. You can also buy hawaiian baby woodrose seeds offline which also contain LSA but you have to eat a lot less.

I don’t even do anything anymore, but I always wanted to try DMT. I was going to grow the plant and work up an extract but I never got around to it.

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
I fucking hated salvia with a passion, I smoked leaves and 20x extract. Nothing good about that trip.

Anyway, morning glory seeds bought in the garden section contain LSA which is cousin to LSD. You can also buy hawaiian baby woodrose seeds offline which also contain LSA but you have to eat a lot less.

I don’t even do anything anymore, but I always wanted to try DMT. I was going to grow the plant and work up an extract but I never got around to it.[/quote]

Carl, the shop I go to carry 20x-120x. I have smoked, the 20x multiple times and didn’t feel much. 60x didnt have much of an effect on me either, but the other people I were with got KTFO. They were tripping balls, but i was like uh, hahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhaha, and that was about it.

damn man… i was under the impression that anything over 40x was pretty impossible to make … u sure they aren’t ripping u off?

but yeah everyone i know whose done 20x has been ridiculously fucked up… more so than ive seen ppl on basically anything else… myself included

[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
also erowid is the shit… its honestly the T-Nation of drug using… tons of fantastic information including testimonials on every drug u could ever think of

alot of the stuff on there can be bought just anywhere though… a good resource if it is still up is jmarchem which sells random chemicals and doesn’t require that u prove u work in a lab[/quote]

yeah erowid is sweet.

[quote]anonym wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
oooooh adderroll is like coke only a lot fuckin stronger, shit had me up on 6th gear for 3 days dude.

are you joking?

New rule: if you can’t spell it, you can’t take it (or have a credible opinion on it, apparently).

edit: and I really haven’t met anyone who consistently has a good time on salvia (myself included). Some people always freak on it, even though they have a blast on 'shrooms (which would be my recommendation).[/quote]

Really? They had a good time on shrooms? My friend described a “freakout” he had to me, had alot to do with things falling from the ceiling. Doesnt sound very enjoyable to me.

i was at a bar just last night and they had absinthe shots for $8 a pop. then my buddy told me that it was just made legal in the states in january or something. if this is true, then id try to get my hands on some of that shit…

[quote]DanErickson wrote:
etaco wrote:
FlavaDave wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
dextromethorphan (found in cold medicine)

If you do this please do not use coricidan (sp?) or anything with acetaminophen in it. Make sure the ingredient label reads dextromethorphan and nothing else.

This is a good rule in general. Acetaminophen can be some very nasty stuff. It’s somewhat ironic that the most dangerous component (in terms of deaths, od’s, etc.) in a few popular drugs of abuse is the most legal and most commonly used.

Use and abuse are two very different things my friend.[/quote]

I wrote “can be” rather than “is” for this reason. Acetaminophen is a problem because it has a very small therapeutic window and people can accidentally achieve toxic levels quite easily. In the context of a rec drug discussion it’s interesting to point out that compared to the drugs mentioned so far on this thread and most in general, acetaminophen is responsible for relatively huge numbers deaths and liver injuries/failures. Even factoring in the much greater use, it’s still way more dangerous than most of the stuff we’re talking about. It illustrates some of the hypocrisy of the drug policy.

[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
damn man… i was under the impression that anything over 40x was pretty impossible to make … u sure they aren’t ripping u off?

but yeah everyone i know whose done 20x has been ridiculously fucked up… more so than ive seen ppl on basically anything else… myself included [/quote]

Im pretty sure its legit. I smoked some 20x about a week ago in a water bong, felt high and I could not communicate to people properly(incoherent, but after about 3 minutes i just shut up and was like fuck it), but I wasn’t seeing shit though. I chilled at the park for about 20 minutes before we went back to my car.

About 20 minutes later(we went to a park about .25 mile up the street), a cop drove up, shined his search light on us in my car(everything was in trunk, thank god), and starting yelling at both of us to put our hands on the steering wheel and then he asked us if he had heard a gunshots(i was like ohfuck, this is like the movies).
Oh shit, are you serious? [quote]I wouldnt be asking if I wasn’t serious, now why are you here at the park? Your not smoking dope now are you?. [/quote] No officer (lol my friend had some in my trunk). [quote] WHERE DO YOU LIVE?[/quote] I live right down the street(gave him my address). [quote]blue*****(my street) huh? oh… So you never told me why you are in the park[/quote] We were just hanging out officer. [quote]Why?[/quote] We just got some food and just stopped to eat before we headed back home. [quote]Officer shines his flashlight in my car, sees the taco bell and then looks through my window for contraband(I think my Physics and AP chem book might of saved my ass that day, I’m glad I didn’t take them out)[/quote] Another cop pulls up, the cop walks up and talks to them. They talk for about 5 minutes and then comes back to me and tells me that the park is closed and to leave. I thank him and drive out.

But anyway, the shop is my friends brothers, and I’m pretty chill with both of them. The brother does not approve of drugs or salvia, so I would not be amazed. But ill tell you the brands next time. The lower potency salvia(20x) is named “purple sticky salvia”. In the little purple caps. I might get some from a different shop or order some online. How did you do yours and what containers do yours come in?

One last question? Does anybody know if Persian Whites are illegal to possess in the united states?