Identify Flaws in This Physique

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

My ideal physique is that of a guy such as Greg Plitt or several mens physique competitors on the larger side.[/quote]

But why the need to inform us so much that you would rather stay lean and would like to look like a “physique competitor”?

I mean, this is the bodybuilding forum but I swear I hear that a lot from you.

We get it. You like being lean. What gets me though is that the thought seems to be that the rest of us either can’t get lean or are so fat we need to be informed what the other side is like frequently.

However, this isn’t about who gets laid more because bodybuilding is about LONG TERM GOALS.

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EDITED QUOTES.

Why wouldn’t “Men’s Physique” be considered a Bodybuilding-related goal? Yes I realise they are different categories in competition but are we not deploying Bodybuilding nutrition and training protocols to achieve the former? My point is the pursuit is big enough for all people to achieve all goals.[/quote]

Men’s Physique is “bodybuilding related”. The difference usually being their desire to not really get that big. Everyone here has their own goals in mind, but since the topics usually do focus on actual bodybuilding that REQUIRES a certain level of size and development, hearing people act as if that SIZE issue is now unimportant can actually confuse some people.

For instance, like the poster above me noted, Austin got pretty heavy in the past. This is something very often ignored by lifters once they put the size on. You see it often. Usually unless probed, the lifter will act like that “bulk” never happened or that it didn’t help at all…even if it did.

Just like this topic seems to be hovering around “aesthetics vs bodybuilding”, it needs to be understood that for most people, without drug use, it is going to be damned hard to try to stay super lean AND put on enough muscle mass to actually qualify as “big” (which stated before is more like 3lbs per inch in height lean).

That is why when people who aren’t that big log in claiming how easy it is, we all laugh.

This isn’t about degrading “physique competitors”. I asked him why he felt the need to bring that up often when the topic here is clearly about bodybuilding and he bulked up too. Austin has made far less progress in the realm of size gains than he was making before now that his focus is on his leanness above all else (while being in the prime of his life to make the most gains in size without injury). That is pretty much what we’ve been saying since page one.


i think what austin is getting at is that just like you can “ride the line” between PL’ing and BB’ing, you can do the same between BB’ing and aesthetics. that’s what the men’s physique division is getting at and guys like Mike O’hearn have been talking about for a while

exhibit b

Yeah Mike Ohearn is deffinitely one that fits into that category because he did win a Mr universe in bodybuilding but was/is a fitness model whos been on over 500 covers

he also recently squated 800lbs raw

yes Im a fan

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thefederalist wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

If you really think someone has to be sub-10% body fat for people to recognize the muscle they built, you need to get out more and meet more people.[/quote]

it’s not about having your muscularity recognized. people don’t envy dudes who aren’t lean. period. an aspiring bodybuilder may admire or envy you/akuma because they know your physique + clen + t3 + disciplined diet = awesome; however, others think of you not as what you COULD be but what you look like at that moment.

a double-digit bodyfat physique is not aesthetically pleasing. [/quote]

I’m glad you posted.

I think your thread here is a good one. That includes your post here. I will work on finding a psychologist to help me deal with the figments of my imagination that gave me compliments on how I looked despite not being below 10% body fat this past year.

Thanks again.[/quote]
Well Said.
Condescending and funny!

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Yeah Mike Ohearn is deffinitely one that fits into that category because he did win a Mr universe in bodybuilding but was/is a fitness model whos been on over 500 covers

he also recently squated 800lbs raw

yes Im a fan[/quote]

I think there is also video of him in this thread talking about how he put on more weight to gain.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Yeah Mike Ohearn is deffinitely one that fits into that category because he did win a Mr universe in bodybuilding but was/is a fitness model whos been on over 500 covers

he also recently squated 800lbs raw

yes Im a fan[/quote]

I think there is also video of him in this thread talking about how he put on more weight to gain.[/quote]

oh cool, if you find it msg me because ive never found anything on how he started, but i know hes been as much as 290 and i think he around 240-250 right now lean

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Yeah Mike Ohearn is deffinitely one that fits into that category because he did win a Mr universe in bodybuilding but was/is a fitness model whos been on over 500 covers

he also recently squated 800lbs raw

yes Im a fan[/quote]

I think there is also video of him in this thread talking about how he put on more weight to gain.[/quote]

oh cool, if you find it msg me because ive never found anything on how he started, but i know hes been as much as 290 and i think he around 240-250 right now lean[/quote]

start watching @ 1 minute:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
Yeah Mike Ohearn is deffinitely one that fits into that category because he did win a Mr universe in bodybuilding but was/is a fitness model whos been on over 500 covers

he also recently squated 800lbs raw

yes Im a fan[/quote]

I think there is also video of him in this thread talking about how he put on more weight to gain.[/quote]

oh cool, if you find it msg me because ive never found anything on how he started, but i know hes been as much as 290 and i think he around 240-250 right now lean[/quote]

“hanban” posted it:

Starting at 4:20 he talks about how staying lean for gigs was just causing him to lose his muscle.

Awesome thanks, hes the man

I would still wager that hes not fat at all even at 290, if he didnt have at least a flat stomach id be shocked

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Austin bicep likes other men[/quote]

O know, the secrets out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

**EDIT Oh no, the secret is out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

Maybe get your homophobia checked out my friend. If you are uncomfortable with being able to judge what a good looking dude looks like, you may be homosexual.

If you want to call me gay because I can say another man is a good looking guy without any sexual gestures or thoughts whatsoever and you want to classify me as a fag, enjoy yourself.

I was going to justify myself even further, but I am comfortable enough to just let it slide. It feels good to be comfortable enough in ones own skin to make judgements and not worry about others opinions. You should try it sometime or just come out of the closet, whatever is holding you back.

Nice squat by the way bro, too bad your cognitive reasoning falls far short of your lifting abilities.[/quote]

Bro Im joking -.- Dont take T-Nation so seriously. I never called you a fag, or gay.
I said you like other boys or men, was joking and thought it would be pretty easy to tell from how i phrased it.

Any how, continue onward men…

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Austin bicep likes other men[/quote]

O know, the secrets out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

**EDIT Oh no, the secret is out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

Maybe get your homophobia checked out my friend. If you are uncomfortable with being able to judge what a good looking dude looks like, you may be homosexual.

If you want to call me gay because I can say another man is a good looking guy without any sexual gestures or thoughts whatsoever and you want to classify me as a fag, enjoy yourself.

I was going to justify myself even further, but I am comfortable enough to just let it slide. It feels good to be comfortable enough in ones own skin to make judgements and not worry about others opinions. You should try it sometime or just come out of the closet, whatever is holding you back.

Nice squat by the way bro, too bad your cognitive reasoning falls far short of your lifting abilities.[/quote]

Bro Im joking -.- Dont take T-Nation so seriously. I never called you a fag, or gay.
I said you like other boys or men, was joking and thought it would be pretty easy to tell from how i phrased it.

Any how, continue onward men…[/quote]

My bad then, no sleep, taking all my finals this week, kinda have a cold brewing, I’m irritable.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
Austin bicep likes other men[/quote]

O know, the secrets out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

**EDIT Oh no, the secret is out. Good one buddy.[/quote]

Maybe get your homophobia checked out my friend. If you are uncomfortable with being able to judge what a good looking dude looks like, you may be homosexual.

If you want to call me gay because I can say another man is a good looking guy without any sexual gestures or thoughts whatsoever and you want to classify me as a fag, enjoy yourself.

I was going to justify myself even further, but I am comfortable enough to just let it slide. It feels good to be comfortable enough in ones own skin to make judgements and not worry about others opinions. You should try it sometime or just come out of the closet, whatever is holding you back.

Nice squat by the way bro, too bad your cognitive reasoning falls far short of your lifting abilities.[/quote]

Bro Im joking -.- Dont take T-Nation so seriously. I never called you a fag, or gay.
I said you like other boys or men, was joking and thought it would be pretty easy to tell from how i phrased it.

Any how, continue onward men…[/quote]

My bad then, no sleep, taking all my finals this week, kinda have a cold brewing, I’m irritable.[/quote]

I feel ya, my first final is in 3 hours. Will be a long week.

Mike O’Hearn is a huge douche, fyi. At least he was at the Arnold to my friend, who was a big fan of his, lol.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Mike O’Hearn is a huge douche, fyi. At least he was at the Arnold to my friend, who was a big fan of his, lol.[/quote]

Yep…ONE PERSON hates him so he must be a huge douche.

Just to throw this out there, but seeing as every other human being has off days where they probably regret how they acted, it has always struck me as funny to think celebrities must ALWAYS love to see fans.

I don’t care how nice someone is, they would be lying if they said they never had a day where they just wish people would leave them the fuck alone.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Mike O’Hearn is a huge douche, fyi. At least he was at the Arnold to my friend, who was a big fan of his, lol.[/quote]

I think your friend is the huge douche

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Mike O’Hearn is a huge douche, fyi. At least he was at the Arnold to my friend, who was a big fan of his, lol.[/quote]

Yep…ONE PERSON hates him so he must be a huge douche.

Just to throw this out there, but seeing as every other human being has off days where they probably regret how they acted, it has always struck me as funny to think celebrities must ALWAYS love to see fans.

I don’t care how nice someone is, they would be lying if they said they never had a day where they just wish people would leave them the fuck alone.[/quote]

Yeah I aggree with this totally,

I also know quite a few friends that have met him and said he was awesome but my friends are cool so… lol

man you guys are so serious sometimes, lol. Notice the caveat “at least” in my sentence, I was partially joking.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
man you guys are so serious sometimes, lol. Notice the caveat “at least” in my sentence, I was partially joking.[/quote]

Lol I wasnt actually offended i dont take things to seriously dawg