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[quote]Swolle wrote:
I refuse to use proper grammar, sentence structure, or punctuation when I post on a forum. Especially when I am typing this more often than not on my Iphone. I won’t take the additional time. I just keep typing as the thought train rolls.

Fat is not Mass in my world. (FAT = EASY  MASS=SHIT TON* of work and diet)  That being said, fat is a necessary evil but not respectable in any way shape or form.  I know lots of guys who when they ask what do you weigh will say "thats it".  I laugh and say yeah I weigh 225 and im roughly 11 percent bodyfat at 5'10.  These are the type of questions that come from the guys who are 6' tall and fat so they assume this equates to them being bigger.  Laughable.

*actual form of measurement

Look I used paragraphs
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Lol.

The man speaks the truth. I know plenty of guys that think more weight = more muscle. Not so simple.

While there can certainly be a correlation between the two, simply seeing the scale go up doesn’t necessarily mean progress at all.

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[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
A lot of people were trolled in this thread.[/quote]

This thread is 12 pages long with some decent discussion. The only people trolled are the ones who think anyone is posting for the sake of the OP right now.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
A lot of people were trolled in this thread.[/quote]

This thread is 12 pages long with some decent discussion. The only people trolled are the ones who think anyone is posting for the sake of the OP right now.[/quote]

This thread has been entertaining AND informative.

Good.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
A lot of people were trolled in this thread.[/quote]

This thread is 12 pages long with some decent discussion. The only people trolled are the ones who think anyone is posting for the sake of the OP right now.[/quote]

I think we can all agree on that, my good man.

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[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Achilles – You think staying lean is easier than gaining?

No way man. Have you ever been lean (sub 10%, assuming you aren’t a naturally lean dude) and then tried to hold it for some appreciable amount of time? Shit sucks.

Because let me tell you (and everyone reading), I tried both this year, and it is far from easy. Eating an excess of calories day in, day out, is pretty easy I think, at least relatively speaking. Yes, it takes MUCH longer, especially staying natty, but getting big and strong is much simpler and requires much less thinking and planning than dieting and maintaining decent bodyfat levels once the muscle is built.

That has been my experience, anyways.

I hope this thread keeps blowing up – fun read at work.

Akuma, I was pretty harsh with you (even though you didn’t single me out), but I think it’s important in life (and on the internet) to not take yourself too seriously. Haterz goan’ hate, as they say. Good luck with your diet.
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Bug I definitely feel staying lean is easier than bulking up.

I wrestled in high school and always kept an extremely low bf, many of us didnt even register on some of the bf test machines. Granted i wrestled 171 but was still under 10%

That being said, its way more common to go to the gym and find some lean ass kid (usually under 200lbs) that has veins in every part of his body. and that always remains lean.

Its more rare to to run into 250+ guys that arnt fat and are repping 365+ with ease

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Is it harder to make the NFL or NBA?

Easy: play video games as a fat dude or as an ecto
Medium: making newbie gains, getting to low-teens bf
Hard: getting huge, getting cut
Hardest: getting huge and then getting cut and staying both HUGE and CUT

Cheat Code: PEDs and having baller genetics

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[quote]deat wrote:
Is it harder to make the NFL or NBA?

Easy: play video games as a fat dude or as an ecto
Medium: making newbie gains, getting to low-teens bf
Hard: getting huge, getting cut
Hardest: getting huge and then getting cut and staying both HUGE and CUT

Cheat Code: PEDs and having baller genetics

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NFL for sure bball sucks

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It’s a great physique in general but lags in many areas for a competetive bodybuilder. I think he’s been cutting since that piccie though, heard he’s all skin and bones now :stuck_out_tongue:

You really shouldn’t care though what anyone thinks about his physique, if this is your bating piccie and it makes YOU happy, keep going.

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[quote]TheSin wrote:
I think he’s been cutting since that piccie though, heard he’s all skin and bones now :stuck_out_tongue:
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I hope you die alone. Remind me to sh!t on your grave when you do.

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[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

That being said, its way more common to go to the gym and find some lean ass kid (usually under 200lbs) that has veins in every part of his body. and that always remains lean.

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…and 5 years later he is usually about the same size.

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ebomb,

Your avi is redic. What did you weigh day of the contest?

-deat

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[quote]deat wrote:
Is it harder to make the NFL or NBA?

Easy: play video games as a fat dude or as an ecto
Medium: making newbie gains, getting to low-teens bf
Hard: getting huge, getting cut
Hardest: getting huge and then getting cut and staying both HUGE and CUT

Cheat Code: PEDs and having baller genetics
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Lol…I like this.

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[quote]deat wrote:
ebomb,

Your avi is redic. What did you weigh day of the contest?

-deat[/quote]

Haha, thanks D.

I weighed 197.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

That being said, its way more common to go to the gym and find some lean ass kid (usually under 200lbs) that has veins in every part of his body. and that always remains lean.

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…and 5 years later he is usually about the same size. [/quote]

I usually see that in the bigger guys as well–AKA the dreaded “permabulker” syndrome. They just never buckle down and lean out.

The ideal is to be big and lean, right? Well, from what I’ve noticed it seems that as a natural you have to choose one or the other…being really big and lean seems to be the domain of the “chemically enhanced”.

I feel like someone is going to tell me not to set mental limits, but IDK…I’m just calling 'em like I see 'em.

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[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

That being said, its way more common to go to the gym and find some lean ass kid (usually under 200lbs) that has veins in every part of his body. and that always remains lean.

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…and 5 years later he is usually about the same size. [/quote]

I usually see that in the bigger guys as well–AKA the dreaded “permabulker” syndrome. They just never buckle down and lean out.

The ideal is to be big and lean, right? Well, from what I’ve noticed it seems that as a natural you have to choose one or the other…being really big and lean seems to be the domain of the “chemically enhanced”.

I feel like someone is going to tell me not to set mental limits, but IDK…I’m just calling 'em like I see 'em.
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Well, when you say ‘really big and lean’ what do you mean?

Is 220 and 10 percent that? 250/10, 290? IMO, that’s pretty subjective.

Obviously as a natural, you will not be able to attain even close to the levels of size/leanness that an enhanced bodybuilder will, but I still believe that you can be a big and lean natural.

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220 at 8-10%, at 5’9" is what I would consider “really big”…and what I would consider to be out of reach for most naturals.

Maybe, MAYBE, with 20 years of unwavering consistency to lifting and diet.

EDIT: Actually, on second thought, “really big” is an understatement–thats HUGE.

But you know what I’m saying? Being able to look impressive in clothes and without them, that’s what I consider to be the ideal.

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[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

That being said, its way more common to go to the gym and find some lean ass kid (usually under 200lbs) that has veins in every part of his body. and that always remains lean.

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…and 5 years later he is usually about the same size. [/quote]

I usually see that in the bigger guys as well–AKA the dreaded “permabulker” syndrome. They just never buckle down and lean out.

The ideal is to be big and lean, right? Well, from what I’ve noticed it seems that as a natural you have to choose one or the other…being really big and lean seems to be the domain of the “chemically enhanced”.

I feel like someone is going to tell me not to set mental limits, but IDK…I’m just calling 'em like I see 'em.
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How would you know that someone will NEVER lean out? You are basing this on what? Your observation of their entire life span? You are assuming shit based on what someone looks like right now. Most serious lifters with the ultimate goal of looking like a bodybuilder understand there are phases to this. One of my past training partners competed in the Branch Warren at 195lbs. He was used to walking around over 260. You would assume he would NEVER diet down?

No one cares if you stayed lean for 10 years if your gains are minimal.
We aren’t comparing that to some guy who is obese and in denial.

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Proud Virgin… that name is unsettling. I am 5’10" and was closer to 225 at around 11%. Dieting now. Not sure on weight but guessing 210 ish at 6%-7%. This weight and BF really depends on a lot of things. Some guys have a very thick heavy skeletal structure and are endomorphs to boot. With 5 plus years on one of those frames and good genetics 220 is more than attainable.

I have a very small frame and its taken me 18 years to reach this weight but I can tell you its not impossible not by a long shot. Look at Ebomb he is young and 5’10" and competed at 197 at im guessing 4% ish that puts his bf at 8lbs plus he needs to add back his water usually 4-6lbs. Guessing he hits 220 at very very close to 10%. And he is young. This is more than attainable. I hate being right…

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[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]deat wrote:
ebomb,

Your avi is redic. What did you weigh day of the contest?

-deat[/quote]

Haha, thanks D.

I weighed 197. [/quote]

You know it’s impossible to gain more than 2 more pounds of muscle right? I assume you have stopped trying

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

How would you know that someone will NEVER lean out? You are basing this on what? Your observation of their entire life span? You are assuming shit based on what someone looks like right now.[/quote]

Much like your assumption that a lean lifter will not make gains in size, this is based on what I’ve seen at the gym.

Well, is he back up to 260 right now? Or is he staying leaner these days?

[quote]No one cares if you stayed lean for 10 years if your gains are minimal.
We aren’t comparing that to some guy who is obese and in denial.[/quote]

Same thing, nobody really cares about your gains if you have a layer of blubber hiding them.