I Wonder if Crossfitters................

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]Dasher wrote:

[quote]alexus wrote:
still, it wouldn’t suprise me if people started juicing for the crossfit games. i mean… how much money do you win, again???[/quote]

Touche. They win a quarter mil. Not shabby.[/quote]

Jeezus. That’s a big lump of dough.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if folks were gaining an edge. That’s life changing status dough.
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There are people that take roids in my tested powerlifting federation where the prize money is $0. Its really for personal satisfaction yet people still do it even though they know their results will be tainted.
I’d be absolutely shocked if people weren’t juicing for the crossfit games.[/quote]

I agree that people will use for a lot of reasons. Money is a pretty solid one.

I keep an eye on all our test results and have to roll my eyes every time I see a positive come up particularly at a local open meet.

I thought we got cash. You mean you don’t? Never mind.

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[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
So Crossfit isn’t a tested event? I’m surprised someone hasn’t called her out on it to contest if she really “deserves” the money or not.

I could care less if she wins juiced or not. People out there usually get butt hurt enough to give their two cents to call her out.[/quote]

They probably would have called her out but she finished in 9th, way out of the money.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
So Crossfit isn’t a tested event? I’m surprised someone hasn’t called her out on it to contest if she really “deserves” the money or not.

I could care less if she wins juiced or not. People out there usually get butt hurt enough to give their two cents to call her out.[/quote]
Was that directed at me?
If so, I have no idea if Crossfit is tested or not. But either way I’m sure there are people juicing there (no idea about this girl in particular).[/quote]

From what I saw they were going to test for PED’s at the regional level before the games. But I never heard if anybody was tested or not.

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

Please reference said “bullshit”. I only see people complimenting her on her work ethic and a few others who said her physique has made a drastic change in recent years. No one, that I can see, has disparaged her or taken away from what she has achieved. [/quote]

Dude, first, good to see you posting again.

Second, calling her a man, and attributing her progress, no matter how incredible or freaky it might be to ‘juicing’ or even casually wondering for the sake of the thread is absolutely not ‘complimenting’.

Backhanded compliment at best. I realize it’s only one or two posts in a thread full of true compliments, but that’s the shit that needs to be just called out on these boards. You of all people after the shit you took for some of your posts should realize.

Even if it’s true, it doesn’t (shouldn’t) take away from the achievement, so why start a thread just to ‘wonder about it’. That’s bullshit.

Chicka works hard and gets results. Most here should be so successful. That’s all I’m sayin’

Stick around, dude, you’re a great addition here.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

But everyones saying nice things about her!

confused[/quote]

You must have missed Westcoasts post or the implication of the OP attributing progress to steroids.

More tits, less typing, please.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

But everyones saying nice things about her!

confused[/quote]

You must have missed Westcoasts post or the implication of the OP attributing progress to steroids.

More tits, less typing, please.[/quote]

I’ll start with some CF tits for Steely :slight_smile:

I was actually not attributing Annie’s progress to steroids. If anything her progress has stalled as far as performance goes. Years ago she would have been #1 far beyond any of these other competitors. However her physique has undergone dramatic changes. Most notably an extreme drop in bodyfat, hence the disappearance of her breasts that were once there. There is also a marked increase in muscle mass. This picture was most notable to me because I have actually been a fan of Annie’s for years. ONCE AGAIN, this post was not an attack on the girl or her physique, but a realization of how it seems that this once clean and anti steroid community seems to be “growing”.

Just for shits and giggles I wonder what would happen if you went on the Crossfit board and claimed that bodybuilding was a sport and the competitors are great athletes. You wanna see some blasting and badmouthing go down. Give that a try.

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[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
So Crossfit isn’t a tested event? I’m surprised someone hasn’t called her out on it to contest if she really “deserves” the money or not.

I could care less if she wins juiced or not. People out there usually get butt hurt enough to give their two cents to call her out.[/quote]

They probably would have called her out but she finished in 9th, way out of the money.[/quote]

I just assumed she finished 1st. My mistake.

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Heres a vid of the games with winner Annie Thorisdottir and another competitor in the box jump/deadlift what evertheys callin it.

I would postulate that what we interpret as roidz is actually the result of not doing what everybody else does. There is a tendency in people to do what comes easiest- most, like the cardio bunny who does abductions, mule kicks and treadmill 4 days a week, or the bro lifters that hit bench and bi’s every fucking day.

So these women stick to a regimented training plan not determined by themselves and end up with some pretty yolked upper body.

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I <3 Annie Sakamoto.

SkyzykS, I agree with that. While I don’t consider myself ‘yolked’ I have some guns and some triceps and delts and I look like I lift weights. But I don’t think I’m particularly extraordinary in the genetics department or athletics but I do work hard and do it frequently and work on the stuff that is hardest for me not the easiest. (And this is even while I fight gaining more bulk by trying to stay at 63 kg)

I think the bar is REALLY fucking low for the amount of effort women put into lifting and training (or lifting their fingers AT ALL) and so when you have women who start to realize they CAN lift heavy and train hard this is what you get.

I was volunteering for some thing recently and it involved carrying around some PCs and just picking up a fucking computer and carrying it got all sorts of guys freaking out that it was too heavy and trying to take them from me. A PC for crying out loud. WTF? But you watch a lot of women, and it’s no one’s fault, it’s just a social thing, attempt to pick up something that weighs more than a pound and is not an infant and they go all flimsy and pathetic and weak but will walk up to their toddler and lift him effortlessly. It’s no wonder that when they train they go half assed and it’s a surprise when you see someone like Annie Sakamoto or Annie Thorisdottir, but that doesn’t mean they are on drugs. I think we will see many more women like this soon.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

But everyones saying nice things about her!

confused[/quote]

You must have missed Westcoasts post or the implication of the OP attributing progress to steroids.

More tits, less typing, please.[/quote]

Oh, well as long as you’re not mad at ME, its coo.

As soon as I get more tits I will totally post them!

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i personally think mirandas a babe

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[quote]alexus wrote:
not sure about life changing… but that would buy you some training time for sure. if you could do other things… strongman or something… dunno… might be possible to eek out a living.

with respect to the neck as big as head thing… that happens to my neck when i squat or dead. i used to worry the wind would change and i’d get stuck like that, but guess i’m cool with it now. and i’m nowhere near close to her level of physique development. i dunno… i think sometimes people are too quick to judge that others are juicing. they do it to guys too, to be sure… but when it is a women then people are even quicker, i think. and of course the inevitable ‘she’s a man, really’ comments. i mean, c’mon, everyone knows that women shouldn’t really go all out with their training. if they do they turn into men, of course.

really would expect better attitudes on this site.

(this isn’t at all directed to the guy who started this thread. do they test for the crossfit games? they probably should given the prize money and given their stance on that, hey).[/quote]

Gotta agree with this.

A woman works hard, gets lean, vascular, muscular, whatever… she’s juicing.

Annie still sounds womanly to me anyway. And that big neck must be due to the high pulls, hang cleans or upright rows, or other similar pulling exercises the Xfiters do on a regular basis. My traps and my neck can get massive if I focus more on stuff like this. I don’t want a big neck so I keep those exercises to a minimum. Some people have good genetics. They’d do an exercise over and over and grow. Other will do the same exercise at the same frequency but won’t show the same progress.

Also in that video, when she runs on that beach, she looks like any hard working female athlete to me. Not a juice user. The pictures were taken when she was working out. If you’re that lean to start with, of course you’d look pumped out and vascular when you pushing, pulling and throwing some iron around.

My training partner and two other girls I’ve worked/trained with have similar physique. And they are all natural. They just train like beasts, 6 days out of 7, eat well and sleep well. And this is why I was not surprised with Annie’s physique. If she still looked like she did years ago, then I would have raised an eyebrow.

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stupid me forgot a zero. quarter of a million isn’t 25,000… it is 250,000. the later is significantly better, to be sure.

i agree with darkninja… she looked amazingly jacked doing the prowler pushing - but looked (to my eyes anyway) much more like other female athletes when she was doing other stuff. i think she looks very feminine, too. nothing like comparing to a male at a similar level of physique development to see that she is definitely a chick!

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]alexus wrote:
not sure about life changing… but that would buy you some training time for sure. if you could do other things… strongman or something… dunno… might be possible to eek out a living.

with respect to the neck as big as head thing… that happens to my neck when i squat or dead. i used to worry the wind would change and i’d get stuck like that, but guess i’m cool with it now. and i’m nowhere near close to her level of physique development. i dunno… i think sometimes people are too quick to judge that others are juicing. they do it to guys too, to be sure… but when it is a women then people are even quicker, i think. and of course the inevitable ‘she’s a man, really’ comments. i mean, c’mon, everyone knows that women shouldn’t really go all out with their training. if they do they turn into men, of course.

really would expect better attitudes on this site.

(this isn’t at all directed to the guy who started this thread. do they test for the crossfit games? they probably should given the prize money and given their stance on that, hey).[/quote]

Gotta agree with this.

A woman works hard, gets lean, vascular, muscular, whatever… she’s juicing.

Annie still sounds womanly to me anyway. And that big neck must be due to the high pulls, hang cleans or upright rows, or other similar pulling exercises the Xfiters do on a regular basis. My traps and my neck can get massive if I focus more on stuff like this. I don’t want a big neck so I keep those exercises to a minimum. Some people have good genetics. They’d do an exercise over and over and grow. Other will do the same exercise at the same frequency but won’t show the same progress.

Also in that video, when she runs on that beach, she looks like any hard working female athlete to me. Not a juice user. The pictures were taken when she was working out. If you’re that lean to start with, of course you’d look pumped out and vascular when you pushing, pulling and throwing some iron around.

My training partner and two other girls I’ve worked/trained with have similar physique. And they are all natural. They just train like beasts, 6 days out of 7, eat well and sleep well. And this is why I was not surprised with Annie’s physique. If she still looked like she did years ago, then I would have raised an eyebrow. [/quote]

Word. Again, I’d smash.

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[quote]SKWATKING wrote:

[quote]Loudog75 wrote:

[quote]bob_sander87 wrote:
All the people saying they could believe she’s natural, take a look at her face. You can see the masculine side effects of AAS taking place. Even though not significantly, she does look a little less feminine.

That said though, huge props. She’s jacked and she’s winning, good for her. I have no problem with what she’s doing.[/quote]

I think you’re wrong. How can you look at someone and determine juice? In your own post you state that the change isn’t significant. I’ve seen plenty of women with similar builds (broad back and thick neck) doesn’t mean they were on the juice.[/quote]

You can look at a female and determine if anabolics are involved by a protruding orbital ridge (where the eyebrows are) and/or a broadened mandible (lower jaw) and/or a protruding Larynx (Adam’s Apple). Educate yourself you crossfit sympathizer.[/quote]

mmm hmm. you really should think of letting your thoughts be known to sports authorities. just think of all the money you could save them since you have found the litmus test for anabolics!!

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

But everyones saying nice things about her!

confused[/quote]

You must have missed Westcoasts post or the implication of the OP attributing progress to steroids.

More tits, less typing, please.[/quote]

Oh, well as long as you’re not mad at ME, its coo.

As soon as I get more tits I will totally post them!
[/quote]

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I don’t see why it’s so hard to believe she has touched PEDs. The difference in a regular man’s testosterone levels and a woman’s is tremendous . You achieve a certain level of muscularity and you will be suspect whether or not you do.

For men it’s nothing to see a natural 225-315 raw bench . Women 225 is maybe more rare than 405 for a guy .

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
I don’t see why it’s so hard to believe she has touched PEDs. The difference in a regular man’s testosterone levels and a woman’s is tremendous . You achieve a certain level of muscularity and you will be suspect whether or not you do.

For men it’s nothing to see a natural 225-315 raw bench . Women 225 is maybe more rare than 405 for a guy .[/quote]

225 for a lady is not rare. Unless the handful of ladies I encountered in a short span of time, in a pretty small location, were all taking PEDs.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
The difference in a regular man’s testosterone levels and a woman’s is tremendous . [/quote]

Do you mean that if you take the population of men and figure out their average T level and then you take the population of women and figure out their average T level then the T level of the men is tremendously greater than the T level of the women…

Or do you mean for every particular woman every particular man’s T level is tremendously greater?

You can hear the difference - right?

‘Women are taller than men’ can be true yet it still be the case that most women are taller than one particular guy or even that one woman might be taller than every guy.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will never understand the “how” or “why” how people who stand out in a crowd (because of hard work) attract so much bullshit from people on this site.[/quote]

Please reference said “bullshit”. I only see people complimenting her on her work ethic and a few others who said her physique has made a drastic change in recent years. No one, that I can see, has disparaged her or taken away from what she has achieved. [/quote]

Dude, first, good to see you posting again.

Second, calling her a man, and attributing her progress, no matter how incredible or freaky it might be to ‘juicing’ or even casually wondering for the sake of the thread is absolutely not ‘complimenting’.

Backhanded compliment at best. I realize it’s only one or two posts in a thread full of true compliments, but that’s the shit that needs to be just called out on these boards. You of all people after the shit you took for some of your posts should realize.

Even if it’s true, it doesn’t (shouldn’t) take away from the achievement, so why start a thread just to ‘wonder about it’. That’s bullshit.

Chicka works hard and gets results. Most here should be so successful. That’s all I’m sayin’

Stick around, dude, you’re a great addition here.[/quote]

I stand corrected. You and Alexus pointed those out. I must have glossed right over them. Admittedly, they are mild comments compared to the usual junk I have seen on here when a muscular woman pops up. Makes me wonder about the posters, themselves, but that’s a whole other conversation.

As for the guys on here stating that she is on steroids, no one can say for sure but her, but I doubt it. She just looks like any lean woman would. Her “masculine” face, as someone put it is simply what a female face looks like when she is at an extremely low body fat level. Ever notice how fat guys tend to have more feminine faces? Just think in reverse.

And I can say, having been around a number of male and female athletes and bodybuilders in my lifetime who do and do not use PEDs, unless you have real life experience, please don’t act like experts because of what you read on some website somewhere. “Better to keep quiet and have them think you a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” A lot of you need to keep quiet on this subject, seriously.